Bristol R*vers dustbin thread

[WayOutWest]

Couple of points to make.

Firstly, FFP has to be mentioned here.  They simply cannot just come in a build a team full of million pound players. 

Secondly, I use the analogy of a used car sales man (Higgs).  Up drives a brand new Ferrari out jumps (Al-Qadi) and starts sniffing round an MkII Ford Escort, that Higgs just put on the lot this morning, with no price.

I am interested, as Al-Qadi, how much.  Well Higgs knows its only worth a few hundred at best.  MOT needed and the interior is shocking.  The engine is shot and needs 4 new tires.  $1000 says Higgs, sold says Al-Qadi. 

Why oh why would the owner of a Ferrari buy a beaten up old escort.  There is only so much he can do with it.  Its a pile of crap and no amount of money is going to change it.

For me, we are competing against 91 other league clubs, either directly or indirectly.  They are just another one.  I think promotion to the Championship was a massive reality check for us and despite our billionaire owner have found it hard.  They will if they get there no doubt experience the same thing.

If their ownership brings them success, I hope it spurs on our club to greater things.  We need a partizan Bristol, everyone chooses a side and I am confident we will be just fine.

Stevo

 

[Wanderingred]

I'd suggest all saggies to take the "cautious optimism" approach rather than screaming from the rooftops that they are now bigger than us.

They can build their stadium in a few years... it will still be significantly smaller than ours.
They have an owner with a personal fortune of 80 million if reports are to be believed.... Not a patch on Landsdown.
They have two divisions to claw back.
They cannot throw money at players like they could have in the past.
They have no idea if this family have any idea to run a football club.

I reckon its good news for them and will stabilise them at least but a power shift in Bristol?? Don't think so!

[Son of Fred]

4 hours ago, hortonred said:

Well for a long time we have had the rich backer in Lansdown and a lot of good it has done for us.Still scraping to survive in the Championship , still not capable of signing a decent striker since last summer and a Manager with no experience of managing in the league we are in. Will they get it as wrong as we have.Is it possible well time will tell.But being the poor relations will be hard to swallow.

The fact is with the money that has been spent,and wasted here they will be hard pushed with similar investment to do worse.we should grasp the nettle and accept a challenger.its not the good supporters at bcfc that should be feeling any anxiety,though clearly many are..only people here with potential to be made look monkeys are the Lansdowne's.........

[Son of Fred]

44 minutes ago, Kim_il_sung said:

I'd suggest all saggies to take the "cautious optimism" approach rather than screaming from the rooftops that they are now bigger than us.

They can build their stadium in a few years... it will still be significantly smaller than ours.
They have an owner with a personal fortune of 80 million if reports are to be believed.... Not a patch on Landsdown.
They have two divisions to claw back.
They cannot throw money at players like they could have in the past.
They have no idea if this family have any idea to run a football club.

I reckon its good news for them and will stabilise them at least but a power shift in Bristol?? Don't think so!

Two of your points are clearly also relevant to ourselves!!...having said that you are quite right...............

[Guest GazSaid]

1 hour ago, Kim_il_sung said:

I'd suggest all saggies to take the "cautious optimism" approach rather than screaming from the rooftops that they are now bigger than us.

They can build their stadium in a few years... it will still be significantly smaller than ours.
They have an owner with a personal fortune of 80 million if reports are to be believed.... Not a patch on Landsdown.
They have two divisions to claw back.
They cannot throw money at players like they could have in the past.
They have no idea if this family have any idea to run a football club.

I reckon its good news for them and will stabilise them at least but a power shift in Bristol?? Don't think so!

Um, not much of what you are saying here tallies from what we learned yesterday:

Stadium: the new chairman said that the new stadium opportunity is a cornerstone for buying and one they want to move quickly on. He even said they would prefer a freehold arrangement for the UWE site, rather than the agreement Higgs made for the land to be retained by UWE.

The Owners: Wael Al-Qadi is the new club President (effectively a new role compared to the past non-executive role), it appears he has about £70m. But he is heading up the purchase on behalf of his whole family - the figures aren't clear, but the family fortune appears to be £330m.

2 Divisions to claw back: Seems like before yesterday we were making a reasonable thrust of that. A far cry from when your mod were telling us to we were gone for good in the non-leagues (original title of this thread).

Cannot throw money: In 40 years we have only had one spending spree: in 2001 when we wasted 1/2 million in a month. Were rag-bag because we've never spent (or rag-ass according that thick ***** you had in charge previously).

No idea how to run a football club: The chairman has previous experience, and during every interview he did yesterday spoke factually and honestly with massive insight. The new owners are heavily involved in the Jordanian Football system, which may not be perfect, but they didn't just jump into this. The new president was educated in the UK. They do not want revolution, they want evolution.

Perhaps you might want to actually look at what has happen? most gasheads see this as a fresh start after years of austerity, your mob are still a long way ahead of us. Great banter on this thread, also masses of total, total bollocks.

 

[Wanderingred]

45 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

Um, not much of what you are saying here tallies from what we were told yesterday, and lapped up like a bunch of excited schoolkids (edited for accuracy)

Stadium: the new chairman said that the new stadium opportunity is a cornerstone for buying and one they want to move quickly on. He even said they would prefer a freehold arrangement for the UWE site, rather than the agreement Higgs made for the land to be retained by UWE.

The Owners: Wael Al-Qadi is the new club President (effectively a new role compared to the past non-executive role), it appears he has about £70m. But he is heading up the purchase on behalf of his whole family - the figures aren't clear, but the family fortune appears to be £330m.

2 Divisions to claw back: Seems like before yesterday we were making a reasonable thrust of that. A far cry from when your mod were telling us to we were gone for good in the non-leagues (original title of this thread).

Cannot throw money: In 40 years we have only had one spending spree: in 2001 when we wasted 1/2 million in a month. Were rag-bag because we've never spent (or rag-ass according that thick ***** you had in charge previously).

No idea how to run a football club: The chairman has previous experience, and during every interview he did yesterday spoke factually and honestly with massive insight. The new owners are heavily involved in the Jordanian Football system, which may not be perfect, but they didn't just jump into this. The new president was educated in the UK. They do not want revolution, they want evolution.

Perhaps you might want to actually look at what has happen? most gasheads see this as a fresh start after years of austerity, your mob are still a long way ahead of us. Great banter on this thread, also masses of total, total bollocks.

 

Typical. Out of the woodwork they all come. You've said absolutely nothing of any note to counter any of my points. What exactly have I said that's bollocks? It's all pure fact. Lets look at it again:

Your new stadium (if it gets built it's still not a given) will be much smaller than ours. FACT. That was my point, don't know why your'e blabbering on about a "freehold arrangement" or whatever.

You will not be able to spend vast amounts of money because of financial fair play. Until (if) you are at UWE, you will not generate the necessarily revenue to do so. The days of clubs being able to do that in the lower leagues are gone. FACT.

You are two divisions behind us, and as things stand that status quo will remain. We are 21st and you are 8th, outside the playoff positions. FACT. You could make the playoffs, so could about 6 other teams around you.

Your new owner may or not handle the running of your football club well. The English league is a different ball game to Jordon. Nobody will know until he starts running it. Google him, and youll see his fortune is around 80 million.

You've been crowing for years and years about how you were soon going to overtake us. It's never happened. When are you going to learn your lesson and actually shut your gobs because all you've ever done is make yourselves look silly.

Bye
 

Edited February 20, 2016 by Kim_il_sung

[Dollymarie]

^^^^ 

[Guest GazSaid]

1 minute ago, Kim_il_sung said:

Typical. Out of the woodwork they all come. You've said absolutely nothing of any note to counter any of my points.

Your new stadium (if it gets built it's still not a given) will be much smaller than ours. That was my point, what relevance does a "freehold arrangement" have?

You will not be able to spend vast amounts of money because of financial fair play. Until (if) you are at UWE, you will not generate the necessarily revenue to do so. The days of clubs being able to do that in the lower leagues are gone.

You are two divisions behind us, and as things stand that status quo will remain. We are 21st and you are 8th, outside the playoff positions. You could make the playoffs, so could about 6 other teams around you.

Your new owner may or not handle the running of your football club well. The English league is a different ball game to Jordon. Nobody will know until he starts running it.

You've been crowing for years and years about how you were soon going to overtake us. It's never happened. When are you going to learn your lesson and actually shut your gobs because all you've ever done is make yourselves look silly.

Bye
 

Um, no, you said they'll build it in 'a few years', but the new chairman says they are good to go and are keen to move on it quickly. I don't think most Rover's fans are bothered if it is smaller than trashton, as long as we can look to fill it in the future.The point of freehold is that the new owners are interested in buying the land from UWE, not the previous arrangement (effectively a free lease) - that suggests they are prepared to invest to take the project forward.

Did you not read what I wrote - the new owners want evolution not revolution. That fits with FFP. Looking at what they have said they want sustainable long term growth, not fly-by-night cash-splashing. The new owners will need time to settle. Landsdown seems to run your mob well in L1 and atrociously in the Ch, maybe time will tell on him getting that sorted.

Football league positions are dynamic until May- we may stay in L2 or go up, you may stay in Ch or go down. We are 2 divisions behind you - the last time I checked every single club wants to be as high as possible in the league system, we aren't any different, neither are you.

We've been crowing? you've got a thread here 115pp long. A lot of your mob said we'd be gone forever when we went out of the league, when scamsbury's won etc etc, you seem to crow about us enough. I'm here because I've followed this thread for a long time, and the repeated 'fock the sags, let's hope Wonga backrupt em' style posts, after the 'non-league forever' threads prove a lot of your mob can't shut your gobs either.

By the way I've always been here, I've not crawed out of the woodwork - i'm on my third otib username, it must ran by the tool in your avatar, because the mods seem to ban gasheads for innocuous posts.

Don't say bye, this thread is bread-and-butter for otib....

 

 

[Son of Fred]

10 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

Um, no, you said they'll build it in 'a few years', but the new chairman says they are good to go and are keen to move on it quickly. I don't think most Rover's fans are bothered if it is smaller than trashton, as long as we can look to fill it in the future.The point of freehold is that the new owners are interested in buying the land from UWE, not the previous arrangement (effectively a free lease) - that suggests they are prepared to invest to take the project forward.

Did you not read what I wrote - the new owners want evolution not revolution. That fits with FFP. Looking at what they have said they want sustainable long term growth, not fly-by-night cash-splashing. The new owners will need time to settle. Landsdown seems to run your mob well in L1 and atrociously in the Ch, maybe time will tell on him getting that sorted.

Football league positions are dynamic until May- we may stay in L2 or go up, you may stay in Ch or go down. We are 2 divisions behind you - the last time I checked every single club wants to be as high as possible in the league system, we aren't any different, neither are you.

We've been crowing? you've got a thread here 115pp long. A lot of your mob said we'd be gone forever when we went out of the league, when scamsbury's won etc etc, you seem to crow about us enough. I'm here because I've followed this thread for a long time, and the repeated 'fock the sags, let's hope Wonga backrupt em' style posts, after the 'non-league forever' threads prove a lot of your mob can't shut your gobs either.

By the way I've always been here, I've not crawed out of the woodwork - i'm on my third otib username, it must ran by the tool in your avatar, because the mods seem to ban gasheads for innocuous posts.

Don't say bye, this thread is bread-and-butter for otib....

 

 

Gobshites both sides of the divide,my friend....its something we all endure......

[cityloyal473]

9 hours ago, ten minutes of rough said:

Well constructed reply, not. Sounds like you are in a bit of denial here. It must mean they will become a real adversary to us, something to look forward to, unless you actually enjoy having the stigma in Bristol of having a non league outfit that actually does Bristol City FC no favours at all, especially when we are lumped together with them by the less well informed.   As Sweden says this might encourage SL to kick on a bit more, especially with the Bristol Sport ethos, can't see he would want to be considered the poor man of Bristol Sport really.

What do you say Monkeh? Think before you type mind, just for a change. 

 

What stigma?  Thats all on them.  I don't remember Bristol City FC being relegated to the Conference.

Should we also feel stigma because they moved to Bath, or because they stole the rugby ground, or because they are selling a war memorial, or because they intend to leave Bristol again? 

 

Edited February 20, 2016 by cityloyal473

[Stephen Lewis]

Good luck Rovers fans, like us you're going to need it.

[Up The City!]

57 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

the last time I checked every single club wants to be as high as possible in the league system, we aren't any different, neither are you

 

 

Oh sir, we are different, very very different.

Our ambition is like most other clubs, success. Hopefully that one day means the premier league but right now it's great to be back in the Championship. Small steps.

However the only ambition your club has is to finish 1 place ahead of us, even if that is by +1 GD in whatever league, that is as far as your ambitions stretch.

Yesterday I expected to hear fans talking of their joy that they may finally have some decent owners.

Instead all I heard was your lot banging on about how your now the biggest team in Bristol, and that your soon going to overtake us without anything solid to back it up. Pathetic.

But of advice that I hope to requote one day. Never ever ever ever forget where you have come from and be extremely carefull of what you wish for.

 

[ChippenhamRed]

7 hours ago, Just Red said:

They sold that soul that they are so proud of today.

Does this mean that every club who has ever received investment from someone who wasn't born with a view of the stadium from their bedroom window has "sold their soul"?

Cardiff happily gave up their very identity for a shot at the Premier League and watched their promotion with red scarves slung around their necks in a sold out stadium. They objected in meaningful numbers only when the dream turned sour. That's selling your soul. It's lazy to make the same claim of Rovers.

[Antman]

6 hours ago, BCFC Jordan said:

I'm one of those people that love it when the Gas fail but also don't really mind when they have a bit of success. I wanted them to move to UWE (although the 'We've got a new stadium' chant against us in Sep 2013 is always so funny to look back on now) and would love us both to be competing in the top two divisions. For a city our size, it really should be the case.

 

Whether this turns out to be as good as it looks is definitely up for debate. The seedy past Hamer has and also the fact nobody really knows what they're worth definitely should bring about doubts. However, the Al-Qadi guy spoke very sensibly and seemed smart in his interviews. They might not be rich but he can't be much worse than Nick Higgs... can he?

 

Meanwhile...

 

 

wow! that's a face for radio....

[Wanderingred]

1 hour ago, Just Red said:

Instead all I heard was your lot banging on about how your now the biggest team in Bristol, and that your soon going to overtake us without anything solid to back it up. Pathetic.

Totally pathetic. They are just not capable of learning their lesson are they? Agree with this...
 

24 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Does this mean that every club who has ever received investment from someone who wasn't born with a view of the stadium from their bedroom window has "sold their soul"?

Cardiff happily gave up their very identity for a shot at the Premier League and watched their promotion with red scarves slung around their necks in a sold out stadium. They objected in meaningful numbers only when the dream turned sour. That's selling your soul. It's lazy to make the same claim of Rovers.

But I also totally agree with this. They haven't "sold out", they've just got new and exciting investment. Lets not turn into them and become bitter.

[Cider red]

So how much are the jordans worth? A few million or 1.4 billion?

[Super]

2 hours ago, Kim_il_sung said:

Typical. Out of the woodwork they all come. You've said absolutely nothing of any note to counter any of my points. What exactly have I said that's bollocks? It's all pure fact. Lets look at it again:

Your new stadium (if it gets built it's still not a given) will be much smaller than ours. FACT. That was my point, don't know why your'e blabbering on about a "freehold arrangement" or whatever.

You will not be able to spend vast amounts of money because of financial fair play. Until (if) you are at UWE, you will not generate the necessarily revenue to do so. The days of clubs being able to do that in the lower leagues are gone. FACT.

You are two divisions behind us, and as things stand that status quo will remain. We are 21st and you are 8th, outside the playoff positions. FACT. You could make the playoffs, so could about 6 other teams around you.

Your new owner may or not handle the running of your football club well. The English league is a different ball game to Jordon. Nobody will know until he starts running it. Google him, and youll see his fortune is around 80 million.

You've been crowing for years and years about how you were soon going to overtake us. It's never happened. When are you going to learn your lesson and actually shut your gobs because all you've ever done is make yourselves look silly.

Bye
 

Game set and match! 

[redcityman]

11 hours ago, ten minutes of rough said:

Well constructed reply, not. Sounds like you are in a bit of denial here. It must mean they will become a real adversary to us, something to look forward to, unless you actually enjoy having the stigma in Bristol of having a non league outfit that actually does Bristol City FC no favours at all, especially when we are lumped together with them by the less well informed.   As Sweden says this might encourage SL to kick on a bit more, especially with the Bristol Sport ethos, can't see he would want to be considered the poor man of Bristol Sport really.

What do you say Monkeh? Think before you type mind, just for a change. 

 

What stigma would that be then!

Do you not class Manor Farm or Brislington FC as Bristol clubs?

 

If I was you I would forever stay indoors sweetie, wouldn't want to be recognised in the streets whilst our city as several non league clubs, how embarrassing, what would the neighbours think!

[downendcity]

Seeing Bolton's plight and mindful if our situation back in 82 I do not begrudge any club the chance to gain financial stability and to become more competitive, even it us Rovers.

For all the criticism he gets you have to ask where would we be if not for SL' financial backing?

It is good to know that this move should ensure the continued existence if our neighbours and it's the local rivalry that in part defines the two clubs - the ongoing battle to prove which is the biggest/best/most suceesful/has the wealthiest owner.

 

 

 

[Port Said Red]

12 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said:

Steve Lansdown needs a good kick up his ass anyway, The sooner the better.

 

11 hours ago, ten minutes of rough said:

Well constructed reply, not. Sounds like you are in a bit of denial here. It must mean they will become a real adversary to us, something to look forward to, unless you actually enjoy having the stigma in Bristol of having a non league outfit that actually does Bristol City FC no favours at all, especially when we are lumped together with them by the less well informed.   As Sweden says this might encourage SL to kick on a bit more, especially with the Bristol Sport ethos, can't see he would want to be considered the poor man of Bristol Sport really.

What do you say Monkeh? Think before you type mind, just for a change. 

 

He is in the middle of building a ground we can all be proud of and has written off almost as much in investment than these Jordanians are worth. In what way does he need a kick up the arse and what else should he be spending his money on? In terms of FFP he can't just go and spend a fortune on players can he?

[Wanderingred]

3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

 

He is in the middle of building a ground we can all be proud of and has written off almost as much in investment than these Jordanians are worth. In what way does he need a kick up the arse and what else should he be spending his money on? In terms of FFP he can't just go and spend a fortune on players can he?

I don't think anybody is knocking Landsdown for his financial commitment. He's invested more into this club than these new Jordanians ever could - I think its more about the day to day running of the club which has been poor for a number of years (managerial appointments, transfers etc). That needs to improve if we are to stabilize and improve in the Championship.

[ChippenhamRed]

The whole "who's got more money" debate is fairly irrelevant at the levels of wealth we are talking about anyway.

We know Lansdown is a billionaire. For arguments sake let's say the Jordanians are even more wealthy. But what could they realistically achieve with Rovers that Lansdown couldn't afford to do with City?

Lansdown easily has enough money to build a new stadium, improve the training facilities and infrastructure, and make £multi-million bids for players. After that he is tied by financial fair play and a need to run the club in a sustainable manner.

Even if the Jordanians have ten times his wealth, what more could they do? They will encounter the same hurdles. They may now be able to compete with us, but I see no reason why this would enable them to overtake us.

[redfred]

What's really telling is that Rovers' fans have mentioned Bristol City as much, if not more, than their new owners since the takeover was announced. Are we the limit of their ambitions?

We should be flattered, but attention from them makes me a little queasy.

I wonder how this will affect their fanbase once the dust has settled on the deal, as well? They will now have to live with the pressure of a club that has money to spend, and that can be as bad as it can be good.

One final thing to any gasheads who are reading this:

I, NOR ANY OTHER CITY FAN I HAVE SPOKEN TO ABOUT THIS, ARE JEALOUS OF YOUR NEW OWNERS. THINK ABOUT OUR OWNERSHIP, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR STADIUM AND WHAT DIVISION WE ARE IN AND OUR SITUATION GOING FORWARD IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL ONE.

SORRY IT IS IN BOLD LETTERS, BUT CLEARLY THAT IS A REQUIREMENT TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT JEALOUS OF YOU AND WE DO NOT FEAR YOU AND SOME OF US EVEN  FIND IT FUNNY.

YOURS SINCERELY

THAT GERT JEALOUS 'TED 

[RedRaw]

4 hours ago, GazSaid said:

Great banter on this thread, also masses of total, total bollocks.

 

Pfft.......I take it you haven't scrawled through the masses of hysteria and comedy gold that is the rovers forums in the last 24 hours

3 hours ago, GazSaid said:

By the way I've always been here, I've not crawed out of the woodwork - i'm on my third otib username, it must ran by the tool in your avatar, because the mods seem to ban gasheads for innocuous posts.

Don't say bye, this thread is bread-and-butter for otib....

 

 

If you've been banned before then you would have no doubt acted the dick or continually broke rules........plenty of sags on here who post regularly and have banter. unlike your forums, we don't just ban people because they support the other team (check out "the sh!t are gutted thread"....sensible comments from city fans, banned for nothing, no doubt there are others)

[Cotham Brow Red]

Just what so called investment the new owners will inject is still very much unclear. They don't know, nobody knows how much or how little they are actually going to invest. My feeling is (whatever happens in the court case) is very little will change in the next 6 months to a year. And my gut feeling is the blue few will get frustrated with this and will expect the moon on a stick immediately. It won't happen especially if they say there in it for the long haul. Time will tell. Nothing will change soon. 

[bs3]

18 hours ago, kivsy said:

bunch of hypocrites !! saying we sold out to lansdown, and the club are his plaything and will get bored and sell us up the swanney,  now its ok for them to take the new investment ? 

 

in lansdown we trust ..............

The gas are the biggest bunch of hyprocrites in English football.

On Thursday night thier fans were on Radio Bristol Twentyman show, complaining about Northampton and that only last season there were struggling money wise and now they are top of the Division due to a new investor and how they thought that was so unfair!

When we were going to build at Ashton Vale saying how they didn't like souless out of town bowl stadiums and trying to take the p1ss by complaining the new stadium would not be in Bristol but in North Somerset and they would be the only club in Bristol when infact it was only an access road to the site would have been in North Somerset oh the ******* irony of it.

Forever complaining that billionaire foriegn  owners  and money  are destroying English football and its so unfair on little old bristol rovers.

They also have no morals, on talksport a woman gas was ask do you care where the money is coming she said "NO" and this after all the sh!t they gave SL because he lives in Gurnsey and they want him to pay more tax. What have thier new owner done to contribute to our society?

 

 

 

[KeepUpLino]

1 hour ago, Cider red said:

So how much are the jordans worth? A few million or 1.4 billion?

 

[GodEmperor Palpatine]

4 hours ago, GazSaid said:

Um, not much of what you are saying here tallies from what we learned yesterday:

Stadium: the new chairman said that the new stadium opportunity is a cornerstone for buying and one they want to move quickly on. He even said they would prefer a freehold arrangement for the UWE site, rather than the agreement Higgs made for the land to be retained by UWE.

The Owners: Wael Al-Qadi is the new club President (effectively a new role compared to the past non-executive role), it appears he has about £70m. But he is heading up the purchase on behalf of his whole family - the figures aren't clear, but the family fortune appears to be £330m.

2 Divisions to claw back: Seems like before yesterday we were making a reasonable thrust of that. A far cry from when your mod were telling us to we were gone for good in the non-leagues (original title of this thread).

Cannot throw money: In 40 years we have only had one spending spree: in 2001 when we wasted 1/2 million in a month. Were rag-bag because we've never spent (or rag-ass according that thick ***** you had in charge previously).

No idea how to run a football club: The chairman has previous experience, and during every interview he did yesterday spoke factually and honestly with massive insight. The new owners are heavily involved in the Jordanian Football system, which may not be perfect, but they didn't just jump into this. The new president was educated in the UK. They do not want revolution, they want evolution.

Perhaps you might want to actually look at what has happen? most gasheads see this as a fresh start after years of austerity, your mob are still a long way ahead of us. Great banter on this thread, also masses of total, total bollocks.

 

Hahaha is that your major ambition? To be above City... You are the definition of small-time.

The video posted by BCFC Jordan of the lad and his dad (particularly his dad) shows how deluded your fans actually are

[Br1stolCityBoy]

7 minutes ago, Cotham Brow Red said:

Just what so called investment the new owners will inject is still very much unclear. They don't know, nobody knows how much or how little they are actually going to invest. My feeling is (whatever happens in the court case) is very little will change in the next 6 months to a year. And my gut feeling is the blue few will get frustrated with this and will expect the moon on a stick immediately. It won't happen especially if they say there in it for the long haul. Time will tell. Nothing will change soon. 

I totally agree with this. If you listen to their new owners interview, he was asked of a 5 or 10 year plan. He answered by saying we will take it a day at a time. Sorry but all good businesses have a 5 year plan. I personally think there will be some investment for the Gas, but not stupid amounts like they are dreaming of. I personally hope they get a better stadium. Let's be fair this City deserves it. But like all kids, they get fed up of there toys after a while!

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

43 minutes ago, redfred said:

What's really telling is that Rovers' fans have mentioned Bristol City as much, if not more, than their new owners since the takeover was announced. Are we the limit of their ambitions?

We should be flattered, but attention from them makes me a little queasy.

I wonder how this will affect their fanbase once the dust has settled on the deal, as well? They will now have to live with the pressure of a club that has money to spend, and that can be as bad as it can be good.

One final thing to any gasheads who are reading this:

I, NOR ANY OTHER CITY FAN I HAVE SPOKEN TO ABOUT THIS, ARE JEALOUS OF YOUR NEW OWNERS. THINK ABOUT OUR OWNERSHIP, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR STADIUM AND WHAT DIVISION WE ARE IN AND OUR SITUATION GOING FORWARD IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL ONE.

SORRY IT IS IN BOLD LETTERS, BUT CLEARLY THAT IS A REQUIREMENT TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT JEALOUS OF YOU AND WE DO NOT FEAR YOU AND SOME OF US EVEN  FIND IT FUNNY.

YOURS SINCERELY

THAT GERT JEALOUS 'TED 

Toteendtony will understand.

[1960maaan]

I don't like hypocrisy , so the main thing that gets me is the complete 180 they have come out with....

Some of the 'digs' they have come out with. Big club , franchise , sugar daddy , just a toy blah blah blah. 

Now what do we have......They are on a level playing field , not with us oh no , with Man City and Chelsea , and I've already seen a post that states that 'the sleeping giant has woken ' !! WTAF !

OK , the family has a lot of money (family money, that may be a reality check right there), they are bankers so not oil rich like Citeh , they are not Rovers fans (and this could be massive). One or two of the family like football, one is a Chelsea fan , so why the Squatters ? I may be cynical but , the stadium will get subsidies , and aid so they build at a discount. The club itself would have been comparatively cheap ( possible ground implosion, court cases , mid table League2 with not massive gates).  Move on 2 years , new ground challenging at the top of L1 and reasonable gates = profit , a bankers dream. I may be wrong , they may be in it for the long haul. But , if as they say SL will pull his money out lose interest in us and we would be finished ( ties with the area , supports the club , building for the future) , how do those same G*s feel now ?? Foreign owners , no ties to the area, only heard of the club last September ? 

To be fair , if I was one of that lot (and thank the Lord I'm not) I would be excited. After the tinpot way they have been run , very excited. But then my first thought wouldn't be local opposition (or should that be obsession) . The evolution thing is the right way to go, but I do think if you don't actually have a love or feeling for a Football club, then for toys you would be better off going to Hamley's.

 I do wonder if they ever get above us whether that would be it as there would be no ambition left to achieve. 

[Guest GazSaid]

3 hours ago, cityloyal473 said:

What stigma?  Thats all on them.  I don't remember Bristol City FC being relegated to the Conference.

Should we also feel stigma because they moved to Bath, or because they stole the rugby ground, or because they are selling a war memorial, or because they intend to leave Bristol again? 

 

I don't remember our fans burning down one of your stands.

The conference didn't do us any harm - regardless of what your mob think, most of us consider it a lesson well learned and we have come back a lot better.

As for the rugby club and the war memorial the facts on those are out there.

 

Edited February 20, 2016 by GazSaid

[Guest GazSaid]

22 minutes ago, RedRaw said:

Pfft.......I take it you haven't scrawled through the masses of hysteria and comedy gold that is the rovers forums in the last 24 hours

If you've been banned before then you would have no doubt acted the dick or continually broke rules........plenty of sags on here who post regularly and have banter. unlike your forums, we don't just ban people because they support the other team (check out "the sh!t are gutted thread"....sensible comments from city fans, banned for nothing, no doubt there are others)

No I was banned with no reason - I don't go around gobbing off, no point at all.

Not sure whether it is possible now, but for a long time this forum wouldn't even let you register if you had 'gas' in your username.

[Cobbsoldun]

No...you don't gob off at all do you. Apart from just calling our ground Trashton.  P***k.

[GodEmperor Palpatine]

8 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I don't like hypocrisy , so the main thing that gets me is the complete 180 they have come out with....

Some of the 'digs' they have come out with. Big club , franchise , sugar daddy , just a toy blah blah blah. 

Now what do we have......They are on a level playing field , not with us oh no , with Man City and Chelsea , and I've already seen a post that states that 'the sleeping giant has woken ' !! WTAF !

OK , the family has a lot of money (family money, that may be a reality check right there), they are bankers so not oil rich like Citeh , they are not Rovers fans (and this could be massive). One or two of the family like football, one is a Chelsea fan , so why the Squatters ? I may be cynical but , the stadium will get subsidies , and aid so they build at a discount. The club itself would have been comparatively cheap ( possible ground implosion, court cases , mid table League2 with not massive gates).  Move on 2 years , new ground challenging at the top of L1 and reasonable gates = profit , a bankers dream. I may be wrong , they may be in it for the long haul. But , if as they say SL will pull his money out lose interest in us and we would be finished ( ties with the area , supports the club , building for the future) , how do those same G*s feel now ?? Foreign owners , no ties to the area, only heard of the club last September ? 

To be fair , if I was one of that lot (and thank the Lord I'm not) I would be excited. After the tinpot way they have been run , very excited. But then my first thought wouldn't be local opposition (or should that be obsession) . The evolution thing is the right way to go, but I do think if you don't actually have a love or feeling for a Football club, then for toys you would be better off going to Hamley's.

 I do wonder if they ever get above us whether that would be it as there would be no ambition left to achieve. 

This. They are just bitter and obsessed... good bit of fortune shines on them and they are still posting about us.

I'm still laughing at the we are equal to Man City and Chelsea despite the fact the family are worth 330M... Does this mean by Gas logic we are bigger than all 3?

[italian dave]

8 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

No I was banned with no reason - I don't go around gobbing off, no point at all.

Not sure whether it is possible now, but for a long time this forum wouldn't even let you register if you had 'gas' in your username.

Strange.....the Gasbuster has been on here for years without any problems.

[Guest GazSaid]

2 minutes ago, Cobbsoldun said:

No...you don't gob off at all do you. Apart from just calling our ground Trashton.  P***k.

did I touch a nerve with that? really? I don't think most posters on here see that as anymore than banter.

[cityloyal473]

12 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

I don't remember our fans burning down one of your stands.

 

 

Me neither, and as such there is no stigma attached to you.

[Wanderingred]

1 hour ago, redfred said:

I, NOR ANY OTHER CITY FAN I HAVE SPOKEN TO ABOUT THIS, ARE JEALOUS OF YOUR NEW OWNERS. THINK ABOUT OUR OWNERSHIP, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR STADIUM AND WHAT DIVISION WE ARE IN AND OUR SITUATION GOING FORWARD IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL ONE.

SORRY IT IS IN BOLD LETTERS, BUT CLEARLY THAT IS A REQUIREMENT TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT JEALOUS OF YOU AND WE DO NOT FEAR YOU AND SOME OF US EVEN  FIND IT FUNNY.

YOURS SINCERELY

THAT GERT JEALOUS 'TED 

You could write that message on an airplane over the Minimal ground, it would still fall on deaf ears. They are utter morons.

[ashton_fan]

31 minutes ago, Cotham Brow Red said:

Just what so called investment the new owners will inject is still very much unclear. They don't know, nobody knows how much or how little they are actually going to invest. My feeling is (whatever happens in the court case) is very little will change in the next 6 months to a year. And my gut feeling is the blue few will get frustrated with this and will expect the moon on a stick immediately. It won't happen especially if they say there in it for the long haul. Time will tell. Nothing will change soon. 

You have to remember they are involved in running a Jordanian bank so have an easy line of credit. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a Glazier-type situation where they pay of Higgs with a loan from their bank so Rovers are still in debt but to the Bank rather than Higgs. Since they run the bank they can appoint themselves to run the club and take out salary/bonus/dividends whenever they like, it would all be completely legit and it's the way Man Utd are run, they acquire the club without having to use their own money. Having seen their interview I don't think they're going to go on a spending spree, more like cut costs so the club is profitable for them. We'll only find out the truth when the first set of accounts are published (assuming they are).

Higgs has raised expectations on their intentions so he can't be blamed for selling out the club.

[pongo88]

Why do people keep saying they are impressed by the new owner's interview?  What did they expect him to say - "I'm an asset striper"? Remember, the Devil is always persuasive - e g Elizabeth Hurley or Peter Cook as the devil in the film Bedazzled. 

[1960maaan]

4 minutes ago, Dark Wood Covert said:

This. They are just bitter and obsessed... good bit of fortune shines on them and they are still posting about us.

I'm still laughing at the we are equal to Man City and Chelsea despite the fact the family are worth 330M... Does this mean by Gas logic we are bigger than all 3?

Very true , I have a good mate on FB who has kept his ST at the Rugby ground through the Non League and sticks by them what ever. Now I can talk to him , even though he is obsessed, I can just about stomach his FB posts. It's his mates that get me, the reply's are hypocritical , deluded and bizarre . If we win I enjoy it , if they win, the first line they post will include the word City or the schoolyard 'banter' equivalent. 

[cityloyal473]

14 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

No I was banned with no reason - I don't go around gobbing off, no point at all.

Not sure whether it is possible now, but for a long time this forum wouldn't even let you register if you had 'gas' in your username.

Gas: any idea what the "amazing heritage" is that your new owner is referring too?  I can't think of anything.

[Aizoon]

3 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Why do people keep saying they are impressed by the new owner's interview?  What did they expect him to say - "I'm an asset striper"? Remember, the Devil is always persuasive - e g Elizabeth Hurley or Peter Cook as the devil in the film Bedazzled. 

How can they asset-strip a club without assets? Or are they after the plastic chairs?

[italian dave]

I'm not envious or resentful of the fact that they have sold out to a wealthy owner: it's the way of the world nowadays, and frankly if they hadn't found their sugar daddy then they would likely have struggled on the edge of existence for years. And, whilst I don't want to see them above us, I like the fact that Bristol is one of the few two club City's in the country.

What gets me is the hypocrisy of (some ) of the blue few. For years we've had the jibes about the 'moneybags' club, and yet overnight they have some serial c**k waving over who has the most money. For years it's been unfair on poor old plucky underdogs that some clubs have been able to buy their way to success. And overnight those same people are revelling in how much they are going to be able to spend to reach the dizzy heights of......well, above us anyway. And for years we've heard about their being a proper local club, family run by local people keeping them true to their soul....and now they are owned by a Chelsea fan and Chaired by a failed Swansea man...and loving it. 

 

[Fodbarmyarmy]

AT least their new owners were found not guilty of supporting terrorism ...that has to be a positive for them.....

[Up The City!]

Less than 24 hours in and the new wealthy owners have already set about redeveloping the stadium.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

18 minutes ago, GazSaid said:

No I was banned with no reason 

Yeah, of course you were. I respect the Gasheads like In the Net, Miah and Bert Tann who had broad enough shoulders to post on here throughout Rovers time in Non League (your Sugardaddy won't be able to wipe that from your history by the way). You'll be gone again as soon as you realise that buying your way up the leagues isn't as easy as so many Gasheads seem to think it is.

Dont pretend that Gasheads get banned on here as quickly as they do on your forums though.

[BS2 Red]

This is the sort of embarrassing crap that the 15ers are sharing on Facebook at the moment.

 

[Barrs Court Red]

so am I right in saying untill they get a cat 2 academy, we can pick up any good prospects for peanuts?

[Nibor]

2 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

so am I right in saying untill they get a cat 2 academy, we can pick up any good prospects for peanuts?

Better still from what I vaguely recall their chances of getting a category 2 academy will be greatly reduced by the fact that there already is one in Bristol. 

[redfred]

37 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

Toteendtony will understand.

Very optimistic of you.

[Barrs Court Red]

1 minute ago, Nibor said:

Better still from what I vaguely recall their chances of getting a category 2 academy will be greatly reduced by the fact that there already is one in Bristol. 

Fantastic, I wonder if Higgs kept that little gem to himself while negotiating.

[glynriley]

3 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

This is the sort of embarrassing crap that the 15ers are sharing on Facebook at the moment.

 

Trouble is mate, some of them actually believe it. Sat on the bus on the way to work this morning, and listening to 2 bottom dwellers banging on about their new "multi billionaire owner" and how they are now the "6th richest club in the country"

It got too much for me when they were discussing Jose Mourinho still being out of work, I laughed, looked around, and they stared back at me as if I was the ******* idiot

[weeble]

7 hours ago, Kim_il_sung said:

I'd suggest all saggies to take the "cautious optimism" approach rather than screaming from the rooftops that they are now bigger than us.

They can build their stadium in a few years... it will still be significantly smaller than ours.
 

I think the vast majority of us are just relieved we are no longer in danger of going bust when our Wonga loan is due in June. 

The UWE stadium is designed for an initial capacity of 21,700. It is designed to incorporate a second tier (a little like Brighton's or MK Dons') taking it to around 26,000. A further tier taking it up to 35,000 can be added by removing and replacing the roof. I suspect that the second and third tiers are not likely to be pressing concerns for a while.

[BS2 Red]

3 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Better still from what I vaguely recall their chances of getting a category 2 academy will be greatly reduced by the fact that there already is one in Bristol. 

If they get what they want though they will not be in Bristol for much longer.  Let's hope Yate Town get a cat2 academy soon.

[Barrs Court Red]

I can't find the scene before where the circus owner laughs at someone wanting to buy from him....

But it seems this isn't far from the scenes today:

 

[BS2 Red]

3 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Trouble is mate, some of them actually believe it. Sat on the bus on the way to work this morning, and listening to 2 bottom dwellers banging on about their new "multi billionaire owner" and how they are now the "6th richest club in the country"

It got too much for me when they were discussing Jose Mourinho still being out of work, I laughed, looked around, and they stared back at me as if I was the ******* idiot

Oh I know they believe it! I only saw that picture because 15ers were tagging me and some other City mates. 

[formerly known as ivan]

Why is this being discussed in so much detail on here? They have new owners who have a little bit of money. Could go one way, could go the other. Reading through the posts on here it is like an obsession with them.

For what it is worth, I couldn't care. I personally would prefer someone like Lansdown in charge than an overseas businessman/family. However should Lansdown ever wish to sell up we could be in the same position.

If this was Accrington for example would there be so much interest on here?

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

10 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

This is the sort of embarrassing crap that the 15ers are sharing on Facebook at the moment.

 

....cringeworthy 

 

[One BCFC]

1 hour ago, redfred said:

What's really telling is that Rovers' fans have mentioned Bristol City as much, if not more, than their new owners since the takeover was announced. Are we the limit of their ambitions?

 

That genuinely is their whole ambition as a fanbase really. Never known a club like it.

[bend it like brian]

Mr  Wael Al-Qadi  has put his money where his mouth is and invested in a new team bus for  بحسن الخط دخل الجنة  rovers 

[phantom]

1 hour ago, GazSaid said:

No I was banned with no reason - I don't go around gobbing off, no point at all.

Not sure whether it is possible now, but for a long time this forum wouldn't even let you register if you had 'gas' in your username.

Just for balance @GazSaid, not sure of your previous name so can't see if you were banned from here

Sadly it's just a myth about having "Gas" in the username on here - as others  said there are many opposition supporters who post on here and as long as your posts are not personally offensive or trolling you will be welcome on here - just like other Rovers supporters are (of course you may get bit of stick)

Just for balance I tried in the past to join a Rovers forum - never got authorised . . .

 

PS Mind the Gap

[Cider red]

1 hour ago, 'keepuplino' said:

 

so there worth a few hundred mil? I'm not good with numbers

[KeepUpLino]

7 minutes ago, Cider red said:

so there worth a few hundred mil? I'm not good with numbers

 

These figures won't be entirely accurate admittedly but it certainly shows their not worth anywhere near what SL is worth... These figures basically show that after liabilities they are worth a measly 61million... No where near the billions they are banging on about!!

On 18 December 2015 at 20:49, st andrews gas said:

 

[havanatopia]

29 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Trouble is mate, some of them actually believe it. Sat on the bus on the way to work this morning, and listening to 2 bottom dwellers banging on about their new "multi billionaire owner" and how they are now the "6th richest club in the country"

It got too much for me when they were discussing Jose Mourinho still being out of work, I laughed, looked around, and they stared back at me as if I was the ******* idiot

Where are the net worth stats, just out of interest?

33 minutes ago, Nibor said:

Better still from what I vaguely recall their chances of getting a category 2 academy will be greatly reduced by the fact that there already is one in Bristol. 

I cannot find any evidence that would back that up. You may be right but that would frankly be like cutting off your nose to spite your face as far as English football development is concerned. I would have thought regardless of category the rules would be the same  which bodes the question; why are Arsenal and Spurs both category 1 academies?

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

I wonder if 'GazSaid' will join the other Gasheads who say they are planning to wave £20 notes at Morecombe fans today.

You see, it's that sort of humility and general lack of arrogance that make Gasheads so loved and respected by every other clubs fans....whilst everyone hates us obviously. Thats what they've been saying for years anyway.

I genuinely believe a large number of their fans are going to show their true colours now which will make them more hated than they pretend we are. This is great, and they've still got the hard work of trying to catch up with us. Welcome to Bristol Mr Al Qadi 

[man in the middle]

Just now, Cider red said:

so there worth a few hundred mil? I'm not good with numbers

not that much cash but lots of money tied up in other things. Reading what's been said so far the Gas have a lot more money than they did last week but the new owners aren't going to go mad and chuck loads at them but try to sensible build the club up over time. Far play to them but we've been doing exactly the same thing as a club for some years now and it will pay off in the end, I.e. Academy, Stadium etc.

[havanatopia]

10 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said:

 

These figures won't be entirely accurate admittedly but it certainly shows their not worth anywhere near what SL is worth... These figures basically show that after liabilities they are worth a measly 61million... No where near the billions they are banging on about!!

Correction is that stating the net work of the patriarch within JIB? Or is that stating the net worth of the bank but just showing the father as, presumably the CEO? Either way it does not tell the full story. I would take those numbers with a huge pinch of salt. We shall see if they deliver the stadium, free of debt, in short fashion; I hope they do and if they do they will not have plundered the relatively puny 61 million net worth of the father will they.. or rather very unlikely.

Edited February 20, 2016 by havanatopia

[Fiale]

14 minutes ago, Cider red said:

so there worth a few hundred mil? I'm not good with numbers

 

6 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said:

 

These figures won't be entirely accurate admittedly but it certainly shows their not worth anywhere near what SL is worth... These figures basically show that after liabilities they are worth a measly 61million... No where near the billions they are banging on about!!

They don't own all the bank, they have a 36% stakes in it. Anyway, the banks assets are a little over $1 billion but they not going to be used to pay for English football players. The bank made $22 million after tax profit in it's last accounts published. The new owners have some money, but they are not filthy rich.