RedLionLad Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: How does he. No one saw it . Just calm them down & get on with the game. He even give them a bloody free kick. It should have been a drop ball wherever the play was when he stopped play Exactly this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Why confused @GrahamC? City committed 10 fowls and Millwall 11. Nothing Millwall did today was any different to any typical Championship team. Don’t judge the present team by the past We had 2 players leave the field with cut heads, they were leading with elbows, Semenyo was being repeatedly fouled (just because the awful Ward didn’t see it, doesn’t mean there weren’t more fouls than awarded). Scott at times, too. There was a lot of sly, off the ball stuff going on, if you didn’t see it, that’s down to you. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1team Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: We had 2 players leave the field with cut heads, they were leading with elbows, Semenyo was being repeatedly fouled (just because the awful Ward didn’t see it, doesn’t mean there weren’t more fouls than awarded). Scott at times, too. There was a lot of sly, off the ball stuff going on, if you didn’t see it, that’s down to you. I think they singled out Semenyo for special attention today. He was shoved, pulled, kicked and grabbed continuously, I think I'd be pretty pissed of with that! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Why confused @GrahamC? City committed 10 fowls and Millwall 11. Nothing Millwall did today was any different to any typical Championship team. Don’t judge the present team by the past Bloody chickens 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, GrahamC said: We had 2 players leave the field with cut heads, they were leading with elbows, Semenyo was being repeatedly fouled (just because the awful Ward didn’t see it, doesn’t mean there weren’t more fouls than awarded). Scott at times, too. There was a lot of sly, off the ball stuff going on, if you didn’t see it, that’s down to you. I saw what was going on. It happens in every match. I’m not saying that’s ok, but it wrong to call Millwall dirty bastards without saying the same thing about every other team that comes to Ashton Gate. There is a lot of double standards on the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 31 minutes ago, GrahamC said: We had 2 players leave the field with cut heads, they were leading with elbows, Semenyo was being repeatedly fouled (just because the awful Ward didn’t see it, doesn’t mean there weren’t more fouls than awarded). Scott at times, too. There was a lot of sly, off the ball stuff going on, if you didn’t see it, that’s down to you. Absolutely there was - that’s what teams get when clubs play Milwall. They’re all big guys and dish it out. Thankfully Neil Warnock has retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, RedLionLad said: Even when he doesn’t know what for? How about then giving Millwall the free kick even though he didnt know what had happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben1980 Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 I actually thought Millwall showed some more honour than most teams leading at AG. No time wasting or shithousery. Substitutes went off from near the touch line and throws taken fairly quickly. Think they were the same last year as well. Had the look of a hard team- prob fancy them in a tunnel dust up against most! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 59 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: How does he. No one saw it . Just calm them down & get on with the game. He even give them a bloody free kick. It should have been a drop ball wherever the play was when he stopped play The referee and linesman have an assessor sitting in the stand scrutinising every decision. If any of the four officials saw it then it has to be dealt with properly. All four are in constant communication. The laws of the game are the laws of the game, the officials have to adhere to them, regardless how petty people think they are being. If they don’t, their marks from the assessor will reflect that they are incompetent. Officials aren’t allowed to use common sense, even when they would like too. That’s the modern game for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, nickolas said: How about then giving Millwall the free kick even though he didnt know what had happened! …and what if a goal had been scored, or another foul had been committed before he spotted the “scuffle”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Robbored said: Absolutely there was - that’s what teams get when clubs play Milwall. They’re all big guys and dish it out. Thankfully Neil Warnock has retired. Did he ever play for Millwall? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, RedLionLad said: Did he ever play for Millwall? once maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, reddoh said: once maybe? Under a false name maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, RedLionLad said: Under a false name maybe? possibly but I was doing your double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Did he ever play for Millwall? Neil Warnock was a manager who saw height as an integral part of his teams. Many of his signings were big guys - I think he signed Flint twice Iirc and we all know what kind of football NW always played - thankfully he never managed Millwall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Robbored said: Neil Warnock was a manager who saw height as an integral part of his teams. Many of his signings were big guys - I think he signed Flint twice Iirc and we all know what kind of football NW always played - thankfully he never managed Millwall He was 10 times the manager Danny Wilson ever was… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Read GrahamC’s post - he saw what caused the scuffle. Maybe he should have been the referee then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 15, 2022 Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Portland Bill said: The referee and linesman have an assessor sitting in the stand scrutinising every decision. If any of the four officials saw it then it has to be dealt with properly. All four are in constant communication. The laws of the game are the laws of the game, the officials have to adhere to them, regardless how petty people think they are being. If they don’t, their marks from the assessor will reflect that they are incompetent. Officials aren’t allowed to use common sense, even when they would like too. That’s the modern game for you. I’m not sure that’s quite right - that officials have an assessor in the stands. Used to happen and I well remember sitting in on a debrief by Roger don’t you know who I am Milford. The Milf - and he wasn’t - would swan in, his lovingly coiffured locks flowing behind him, wearing his designer rain coat - you could tell it was designer as he didn’t unpick the little label that was stitched on the cuff. He’d then sit down and when everyone was sitting comfortably he’d begin…. Nowadays I think EFL officials are assessed remotely. Might be wrong but I wanted to tell my Milf story in any case…. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, RedLionLad said: …and what if a goal had been scored, or another foul had been committed before he spotted the “scuffle”? My personal favourite was when Kalas went down on our 18yd line with a clear head injury but the ref let play go on leading to a shot from them. Hows he calling that back if they had scored?! Clueless. Edited October 16, 2022 by nickolas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 13 hours ago, Ben1980 said: I actually thought Millwall showed some more honour than most teams leading at AG. No time wasting or shithousery. Substitutes went off from near the touch line and throws taken fairly quickly. Think they were the same last year as well. Had the look of a hard team- prob fancy them in a tunnel dust up against most! No time wasting! Did you not realise they had a goalkeeper? He took forever over every goal kick & actually punched the ball back into the crowd to waste time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 15 hours ago, GrahamC said: We had 2 players leave the field with cut heads, they were leading with elbows, Semenyo was being repeatedly fouled (just because the awful Ward didn’t see it, doesn’t mean there weren’t more fouls than awarded). Scott at times, too. There was a lot of sly, off the ball stuff going on, if you didn’t see it, that’s down to you. I wonder if though, yes I moan about penalties but I wonder if we went down that road, would the ref's eyesight miraculously return. That said, I think Ward is a particularly poor ref! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 I think as a club for years we’ve been pretty dire at seeing games out , managing them by whatever means necessary I don’t mind us being a little more schooled in some of those dark arts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, shelts said: I think as a club for years we’ve been pretty dire at seeing games out , managing them by whatever means necessary I don’t mind us being a little more schooled in some of those dark arts!! Get this, but we seem to not necessarily get an even crack with officials! Scott and Williams have already picked up 1 game bans for bookings this season, and we are far from a dirty, ill-disciplined side. Sykes got a straight red which is fine but Freeman got off the hook, whereas Bennett got a yellow at a key time at Wigan when it could easily have been a red! Our penalty record for and against, 44 without an award in the League I think! 47 competitive games in all competitions. 8 against in the same period. If we begin the dark arts, how well would we get away with it in this context? Edited October 16, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 14 hours ago, BigAl&Toby said: I’m not sure that’s quite right - that officials have an assessor in the stands. Used to happen and I well remember sitting in on a debrief by Roger don’t you know who I am Milford. The Milf - and he wasn’t - would swan in, his lovingly coiffured locks flowing behind him, wearing his designer rain coat - you could tell it was designer as he didn’t unpick the little label that was stitched on the cuff. He’d then sit down and when everyone was sitting comfortably he’d begin…. Nowadays I think EFL officials are assessed remotely. Might be wrong but I wanted to tell my Milf story in any case…. . No, there will be an assessor at the game. They will also use tv footage when concluding their marks etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 14 hours ago, BigAl&Toby said: I’m not sure that’s quite right - that officials have an assessor in the stands. Used to happen and I well remember sitting in on a debrief by Roger don’t you know who I am Milford. The Milf - and he wasn’t - would swan in, his lovingly coiffured locks flowing behind him, wearing his designer rain coat - you could tell it was designer as he didn’t unpick the little label that was stitched on the cuff. He’d then sit down and when everyone was sitting comfortably he’d begin…. Nowadays I think EFL officials are assessed remotely. Might be wrong but I wanted to tell my Milf story in any case…. Roger to a tee. So unlike Ed Morrison the international rugby ref from Bristol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Portland Bill said: . No, there will be an assessor at the game. They will also use tv footage when concluding their marks etc. I’ve checked with my man. No assessors present any more at PL or Chumpionship. All done remotely by a committee. Perhaps that’s where it’s all gone to pot. Assessors now only in Leagues 1 & 2. And “up the Downs”. Anyway I’m just pleased I was able to tell me Milf story! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said: I’ve checked with my man. No assessors present any more at PL or Chumpionship. All done remotely by a committee. Perhaps that’s where it’s all gone to pot. Assessors now only in Leagues 1 & 2. And “up the Downs”. Anyway I’m just pleased I was able to tell me Milf story! Crikey, I didn’t realise that, I presumed it was the same for all 92 grounds. Thanks for that, I’ve learned something today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 15/10/2022 at 20:17, GrahamC said: We had 2 players leave the field with cut heads, they were leading with elbows, Semenyo was being repeatedly fouled (just because the awful Ward didn’t see it, doesn’t mean there weren’t more fouls than awarded). Scott at times, too. There was a lot of sly, off the ball stuff going on, if you didn’t see it, that’s down to you. Not sure where you sit Graham, but from the Lansdown I thought the most obvious one was an attempted elbow on Scott. Down near half way near the touchline. Everyone around us could see it, it was that obvious. 4th official should have seen it , if not the Line or Ref, but nothing . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Not sure where you sit Graham, but from the Lansdown I thought the most obvious one was an attempted elbow on Scott. Down near half way near the touchline. Everyone around us could see it, it was that obvious. 4th official should have seen it , if not the Line or Ref, but nothing . Yep, saw that from LS too…and then off the resultant bouncing ball, Scott got sandwiched and they got the f/k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted October 16, 2022 Report Share Posted October 16, 2022 I think the bookings were will have been for the scuffle itself, which the ref obviously saw, however didn't see the full incident. The two were still going at it when the referee eventually saw it and got over to them. So although he didn't see the cause he did see them engaging in "ungentlemanly conduct" and can only imagine that's why they were booked. Quite why they received a free kick though I have absolutely no idea. That was just bizarre considering the ball was on the opposite side of the pitch at the time! But apparently the standard of officials has improved, so we've been told....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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