Swearing

[Redandproud]

When entering the ground last night,I was confronted by a steward in A8 section (disabled), I was asked my name which I gave, she said they've had a complaint about swearing ,the person who complained was a old man with a little girl,  I was told to calm done on my swearing, which I replied,well if they're affended  by verbal language at a football ground don't take the kids to football, or go into the family stand, I phone Supporters services this morning, they totally agreed with me, 

[W-S-M Seagull]

Technically swearing in public is a public order offence. 

Not sure I like your comments about don't take kids to football. 

[Major Isewater]

Football used to be somewhere where you could go and let off steam after all the frustrations of real life. Whilst I have some sympathy with the old man, it is bloody hard not to swear when you support the City. 

[Redandproud]

17 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Technically swearing in public is a public order offence. 

Not sure I like your comments about don't take kids to football. 

What your affended by it as well, yeh, 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Red-Al

[Bannerman]

2 minutes ago, Red-Al said:

What your affended by it as well, yeh,

 

19 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Technically swearing in public is a public order offence. 

Not sure I like your comments about don't take kids to football. 

Does that apply to footballers on the pitch (swearing in public)?

if so, the stewards, more so the police should approach them first. No one is above law when it is applied correctly and fairly.

 

[W-S-M Seagull]

3 minutes ago, Red-Al said:

What your affended by it as well, yeh, 

Not me personally. 

It seems from your post that your swearing has been considered a bit excessive, especially when children are in ear shot. 

I love to have a good shout at the football, however if children are near by then I feel like I have a responsibility to tone it right down. 

[OneTeamInBristol]

25 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Technically swearing in public is a public order offence. 

Not sure I like your comments about don't take kids to football. 

A football stadium isn't a public place though, you're on private property.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, Bannerman said:

 

Does that apply to footballers on the pitch (swearing in public)?

if so, the stewards, more so the police should approach them first. No one is above law when it is applied correctly and fairly.

 

I don't like whataboutery. 

In this instance this guy has been accused of swearing excessively in close of a child in the disabled section. 

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Not me personally. 

It seems from your post that your swearing has been considered a bit excessive, especially when children are in ear shot. 

I love to have a good shout at the football, however if children are near by then I feel like I have a responsibility to tone it right down. 

Likewise.

[Redandproud]

Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

Not me personally. 

It seems from your post that your swearing has been considered a bit excessive, especially when children are in ear shot. 

I love to have a good shout at the football, however if children are near by then I feel like I have a responsibility to tone it right down. 

Try telling that to section 82, sing section, plus 17,000 other  fans, I stand by my statement, dont take the kids to football if you don't like it,

 

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 minute ago, Red-Al said:

Try telling that to section 82, sing section, plus 17,000 other  fans, I stand by my statement, dont take the kids to football if you don't like it,

 

Why should they not come? 

3 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

A football stadium isn't a public place though, you're on private property.

That's irrelevant. It's still technically considered a public order offence I believe. 

[OneTeamInBristol]

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Why should they not come? 

That's irrelevant. It's still technically considered a public order offence I believe. 

Technically you might be correct but I doubt there have been many instances where a football fan has been charged with a public order offence solely for swearing in the stadium.

[W-S-M Seagull]

Just now, OneTeamInBristol said:

Technically you might be correct but I doubt there have been many instances where a football fan has been charged with a public order offence solely for swearing in the stadium.

The point I'm making is this person is basically saying "well if they don't like me technically doing something illegal, then they shouldn't come" and I don't like that. 

[Redandproud]

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

The point I'm making is this person is basically saying "well if they don't like me technically doing something illegal, then they shouldn't come" and I don't like that. 

So,you'd be affended if someone near you were swearing, 

[W-S-M Seagull]

Just now, Red-Al said:

So,you'd be affended if someone near you were swearing, 

Not me personally. 

Just trying to help you understand why someone could be offended. 

Is it possible for you to move over to the disabled section by s82 where it may be a bit more appropriate for you? 

[Davefevs]

3 minutes ago, Red-Al said:

So,you'd be affended if someone near you were swearing, 

I might be depending on who I take / is nearby.

Just seems like a bit of lack on decency / selfishness on your part that you want to eff and jeff without taking into account the people around you.

 

[Super]

19 minutes ago, Red-Al said:

Try telling that to section 82, sing section, plus 17,000 other  fans, I stand by my statement, dont take the kids to football if you don't like it,

 

It doesn't bother me personally and i do swear at times (usually in the heat of the moment) but if i had children by me i would try not to.

Not sure the don't take kids then is a great attitude to have.

[Robbored]

It’s virtually impossible to protect children from bad language. They hear it pretty much everywhere in day to day life.

As a very young lad aged 5 or 6 I said in front of my mother “bugger,bugger shit,shit”. She was horrified and my punishment was to be sent behind the armchair. It was same punishment if I’d been cheeky or naughty.

That was probably my first or second year and infant school - where did I hear it?  Nether mum or dad swore so it wasn’t from them

Like lots of fans I shout and swear at football more than I do in any other walks of life. However if I see kids close by I try to tone my language down even when others around me aren’t doing the same. Fortunately where I sit in the Lansdown I’ve not seen any young kids nearby.

[A Horse With No Name]

I sit directly in front of a lad of about 11 with tourettes. Took me a game or two to realise he wasn't just swearing for the sake of it, and that his dad was simply condoning it.

[OliOTIB]

Family stand is there for a reason and they spend enough time advertising it

[W-S-M Seagull]

You have to remember, this is in the disabled section. Where I feel anybody in a disabled section has an even greater responsibility to behave more appropriately. 

 

[Sir Geoff]

36 minutes ago, Red-Al said:

Try telling that to section 82, sing section, plus 17,000 other  fans, I stand by my statement, dont take the kids to football if you don't like it,

 

What about women and teenage girls...you happy to swear around them too ?

Ps it's offended not affended

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Red-Al said:

When entering the ground last night,I was confronted by a steward in A8 section (disabled), I was asked my name which I gave, she said they've had a complaint about swearing ,the person who complained was a old man with a little girl,  I was told to calm done on my swearing, which I replied,well if they're affended  by verbal language at a football ground don't take the kids to football, or go into the family stand, I phone Supporters services this morning, they totally agreed with me, 

You were politely asked for a reason, accept what has been said like an adult and move on and respect that some people are offended by the words you use

[Redandproud]

7 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

What about women and teenage girls...you happy to swear around them too ?

Ps it's offended not affended

Woman and teenagers  girls also do there fair share of swearing so don't come that one

[REDOXO]

There are a lot of disabled kids in there as we know. 
 

I would say that the club gave a warning, which in my book is appropriate to anyone in this section. Particularly as accusations like this may or may not be true.
 

However if the inclination is to use four letter language in the disabled section, the family section or anywhere in the ground there are women, you should probably use some less fruity expletives, gosh darn it! 
 

Nevertheless it’s often the parents and not the kids who get upset as kids are far more resilient than given credit for. As a boy who would listen to the Abervan chants, songs about race, getting effing heads kicked in and all out warfare on the terrace I’m not sure that sometimes parents are a bit too quick with getting upset. (I have no knowledge of the circumstances of this thread so have no opinion one way or another here)

We could of let Kasey Palmer kiss our wives couldn’t we! :laugh:!

[maxjak]

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Technically swearing in public is a public order offence. 

Not sure I like your comments about don't take kids to football. 

Golly Gosh!........I think you will find kids have access to more bad language on TV and Film then they will ever encounter at football?   Swearing is a part of Football, always has been, and always will be.

[Bazooka Joe]

6 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

What about women and teenage girls...you happy to swear around them too ?

Ps it's offended not affended

Careful.

He might tell you to F aff.

 

Incidentally, to add some balance, I have often heard children at the Gate, swearing like troopers.

 

 

[maxjak]

20 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

What about women and teenage girls...you happy to swear around them too ?

Ps it's offended not affended

Thank Pheck for that!  I was just about to correct the spelling, but Pheck me, you beat me to it

[Bannerman]

54 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

A football stadium isn't a public place though, you're on private property.

Very good point, but I believe there are certain criteria must be in place to protect the public/customers while in at private organisation. Swearing does not bother me but I try to be conscious of who are around me (if I don’t get carried away emotionally ).

most swearing words are took out of context and has been bastardised to suit those who find it offensive.

e.g. **** originally means friend.

[phantom]

14 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Careful.

He might tell you to F aff.

 

Incidentally, to add some balance, I have often heard children at the Gate, swearing like troopers.

 

 

But there is swearing like S**t and then there is swearing like c**t

Of course there is the odd use of any word but this could be a constant tirade

Either way the club have politely had a word, he should take note of that and move on