Safe Standing - Cokeheads, Alcys and Rasists (not)!

[Davefevs]

Worth a watch!

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@ExiledAjax

[Sir Geoff]

Dave, think the spelling police may be looking out for you. Thanks anyway.

[Northern Red]

Roberts used to be GMPs Football Liaison Officer, covering Man Utd and Man City, I know people who had dealings with him in that role and don't have a good word to say.

A jumped up jobsworth who still believes all the stereotypes about football fans from the 70s and 80s, and it's a damning indictment that someone holding those views should have risen to the position that he has.

[2015]

The chief constable is very out of touch and the Head of EFL Security and Safety spoke well. 

 

[ExiledAjax]

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Worth a watch!

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@ExiledAjax

Brilliant point made that when people in positions such as the Chief Constable pedal these misconceptions, when they misconstrue correlation and causation, or when they draw links between event A and event B, they fire up those stereotypes, reinforce that behaviour, as well as reinforcing their misguided belief in it.

Believe in the best in people, give them a real and honest opportunity to prove themselves, and invariably they will do so.

@Blagdon red is another who would find this interesting.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just watched it, he's a fairly objectionable individual stuck in a past era. A dinosaur in short.

He's wrong anyway, people can try to sneak alcohol in regardless of standing or seated areas, cocaine you don't have to stand to do etc. Throwing out straw man arguments he is.

Wonder if our own Head of Security (Mr. Storr) never had any dealings with him so I've an open mind, is more open minded or is similarly stuck in the last? I know he was in WMP which wasn't a great force for football and at times in general in the past...our own fans had difficulties with them over a 25-30 year period too.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Rebounder]

Every time I stand up at football I do a line a coke. Fact. 

[Selred]

7 minutes ago, Rebounder said:

Every time I stand up at football I do a line a coke. Fact. 

Bloody racist!

[1960maaan]

5 minutes ago, Selred said:

Bloody racist!

*cough

rasists ?

[cider hoss rules]

Every time I go to a match I have to do all my coke in one go............. as the safety police won't let me have the lid for the bottle.

Edited January 19, 2023 by cider hoss rules

[Red Army 75]

The Chap who spoke on that clip was absolutely spot on. IMO

[Show Me The Money!]

32 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said:

Every time I go to a match I have to do all my coke in one go............. as the safety police won't let me have the lid for the bottle.

And trying to take it sitting down it’s just a nightmare

[italian dave]

3 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Roberts used to be GMPs Football Liaison Officer, covering Man Utd and Man City, I know people who had dealings with him in that role and don't have a good word to say.

A jumped up jobsworth who still believes all the stereotypes about football fans from the 70s and 80s, and it's a damning indictment that someone holding those views should have risen to the position that he has.

Quite ironic that he’s propounding those stereotypes in a week when the stereotype of a male police officer is what it is. 

[jj77]

He should look to put his own house in order seeing the kind of individuals who have found themselves in policing recently.

[Victory Park Reds]

Football is so sanitised these days it’s unreal imho.

However for someone to suggest that everyone is going to go mental ,sniffing dental gum powder(coke) and start behaving like Adolf Hitler because they are standing at football match these days is on a different planet.

 

I suggest the old bill need to look at their own first after recent events.ACAB.

 

 

 

[E.J.Thribb]

Christ, that’s some link. Guessing he stepped out of the 1980s school of football policing…

[Mr Popodopolous]

Good Podcast. Bit long but came across it when reading that thread.

https://shows.acast.com/fan-engagement-pod/episodes/changing-fan-behaviour-time-for-a-rethink

Edited January 19, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous

[Blagdon red]

8 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

Brilliant point made that when people in positions such as the Chief Constable pedal these misconceptions, when they misconstrue correlation and causation, or when they draw links between event A and event B, they fire up those stereotypes, reinforce that behaviour, as well as reinforcing their misguided belief in it.

Believe in the best in people, give them a real and honest opportunity to prove themselves, and invariably they will do so.

@Blagdon red is another who would find this interesting.

Glad to see Mr Roberts put in his place. He is very much in a minority of one.

[GreedyHarry]

If it’s so much easier to take stood up why is it always taken in toilet cubicles and not at the urinals?

[spudski]

There are ' experts' that tell us how, what ,when, things will happen in a ground.

Anti social behaviour, drugs, flares, alcohol, fighting, etc etc etc.

Fans, the public...all have a voice and opinion on what's best or needed 

We read it every day on the forum.

What we need is a free for all.

Club sells tickets. One price. Sit or stand where you want. Create your own atmosphere.

Let's see how the ' monkeys' can control themselves without rules and regulations.

If it works...great.

But if it doesn't...don't come complaining to those who put regs in place.

Simple.

Said somewhat tongue in cheek. But it has some relevance. 

You simply can't expect the general public to act socially...you've only got to witness that most evenings when people are under the influence of alcohol and drugs.

[southside]

22 hours ago, Rebounder said:

Every time I stand up at football I do a line a coke. Fact. 

If I know I'll be standing it's coke, whisky, scrumpy, if I'm sitting it's a tartan rug and a flask of bovril