The Humble Realist Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)? For me Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now! John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing, closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Marvin Elliot for me he could get up and down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)? For me Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now! John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing, closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays Whilst I understand the gist of your post, running around a lot doesn't mean anything, unless it's constructive and positive. Someone may run a lot because they are constantly correcting their positioning. You have to use your brain just as much as your legs to read a game. Some of the very top players will stand still on occasion, and let others run, freeing up space for themselves. Even moving towards where the referee is stood is a clever move. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Bobby Reid put some yards in. Especially when moved to a more natural attacking role. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 JET 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 I don’t have any physical data I’m afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Neil Kilkenny for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I don’t have any physical data I’m afraid. Thanks for the reply. That's a shame. Obviously distance run isnt perfect but would be interesting. I wonder if JET even ran a mile ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: Thanks for the reply. That's a shame. Obviously distance run isnt perfect but would be interesting. I wonder if JET even ran a mile ! I was hoping to get some of this from the club, but it hasn’t materialised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said: I wonder if JET even ran a mile ! If he did, it was walked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Yea as OP mentioned, Weimann is the first to mind for me. He'll have played 93 minutes and you'll see him run three quarters of the field to held defend a counter and it's just like... how? Machine. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Martin Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Current crop probably Conway and Weimann. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: If he did, it was walked. After that goal against the gas he should never need to walk or run again , he should be carried aloft like a messiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said: Neil Kilkenny for me All that pointing was bloody hard on the arms, mind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Darren Caskey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 IIRC we had to tell Jon Stead to stop covering as much ground as he was in games due to injury risk, which must be a first for many clubs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 For me it's Weimann Not just in terms of distance covered but the intelligence of his movement and runs. I think work rate is often stereotyped as just 'who runs the most' but I'd be interested in seeing 'number of sprints' as think that's a much better metric, as alluded to above somebody could probably amble about for 90 minutes and cover a good chunk of ground without working too hard. But Weimann has the ability to go 100% right until the end constantly making runs and pressing, think he's a freak in the best possible way! Constantly harassing opposition and officials as well as covering team mates where needed, very lucky to have had him for so long and think we are a better side with him in it! Agree with the Stead shout above as well for similar reasons, I think what was in some ways more impressive about Stead was physically he's not as well built for it compared to people like Weimann 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Lee Tomlin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted January 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, petehinton said: IIRC we had to tell Jon Stead to stop covering as much ground as he was in games due to injury risk, which must be a first for many clubs Wouldnt surprise me at all. Always very popular with the fans for the effort he put in. Wiilbraham always put a lot of work in too but is unfairly remembered in my opinion by many for 10minute cameos when we were chasing a goal. He really ran his socks off in the league one campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 58 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I was hoping to get some of this from the club, but it hasn’t materialised. @The Humble Realistjust to clarify…licensing issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Gi once subbed byfield in the first half he said he was covering too much ground, was against Cardiff I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, hinsleburg said: For me it's Weimann Not just in terms of distance covered but the intelligence of his movement and runs. I think work rate is often stereotyped as just 'who runs the most' but I'd be interested in seeing 'number of sprints' as think that's a much better metric, as alluded to above somebody could probably amble about for 90 minutes and cover a good chunk of ground without working too hard. But Weimann has the ability to go 100% right until the end constantly making runs and pressing, think he's a freak in the best possible way! Constantly harassing opposition and officials as well as covering team mates where needed, very lucky to have had him for so long and think we are a better side with him in it! Agree with the Stead shout above as well for similar reasons, I think what was in some ways more impressive about Stead was physically he's not as well built for it compared to people like Weimann I don't have the metrics, but players barely sprint in games. What’s is measured as sprints are not sprints, and that is around 1% of the game. Sprinting is what is known as actualisation, actualisation is where sprinting speed is reached, and this occurs after approximately sixty metres of acceleration in a straight line. Footballers generally do not run in straight lines, rarely if ever for sixty metres and the overwhelming majority of movements in any direction/directions are less than twenty metres. Players as a collective average do around 1,400 changes of direction. Players walk more than they sprint. Its around 36%. Standinmg still is 18%. Jog 16%. Low speed running 15%. Moderate speed running 10%. High running 2%. Jumping 2%. Sprinting 1%. The source there is Richard Bate former FA technical director, and Sport Dimensions development.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, The Humble Realist said: Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)? For me Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now! John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing, closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays Glenn Pennyfarthing, had to ride to all the games. Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Now would be Weimann and Conway, before it would of been Bobby Reid from recent memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 For a couple of seasons it was Dan bloody Bentley. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Imagine the press potential with Reid and Weimann together! Both as a pair and perhaps one dropping off a bit out of possession. Reid and Weimann are/have been right up there without doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 These days Andi Weimann. In older days Bobby Reid and before that, Shelts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkeyred Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, spudski said: Whilst I understand the gist of your post, running around a lot doesn't mean anything, unless it's constructive and positive. Someone may run a lot because they are constantly correcting their positioning. You have to use your brain just as much as your legs to read a game. Some of the very top players will stand still on occasion, and let others run, freeing up space for themselves. Even moving towards where the referee is stood is a clever move. Of those I've seen first hand, Messi and Modric were / are exceptional at that - plus very short bursts from that space, creating goals... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalkeyred Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 Junior Bent ran around a lot.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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