Where are all the doubters now??

[bcfc01]

 

 

Thought I'd look to see how we are doing in comparison to last season (and beyond).

Goals against looks the biggest improvement (other than the 3 seasons between 2017-2020).

Be interesting to revisit in 5 games.

Bristol City's record after 30 matches in the same league/division

	GP	W	D	L	GF	GA	Pts *	Comparison
2022-2023	30	10	9	11	40	39	39	-
2021-2022	30	9	7	14	39	54	34	+ 5 pts
2020-2021	30	12	3	15	29	41	39	0 pts
2019-2020	30	14	8	8	44	40	50	-11 pts
2018-2019	30	14	8	8	38	29	50	-11 pts
2017-2018	30	14	9	7	42	33	51	-12 pts
2016-2017	30	9	5	16	41	44	32	+ 7 pts
2015-2016	30	6	10	14	25	47	28	+ 11 pts
2012-2013	30	8	4	18	42	58	28	+ 11 pts
2011-2012	30	8	6	16	25	44	30	+ 9 pts
2010-2011	30	9	8	13	35	44	35	+ 4 pts

Edited February 12, 2023 by bcfc01

[Top Robin]

3 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

 

 

Thought I'd look to see how we are doing in comparison to last season (and beyond).

Goals against looks the biggest improvement (other than the 3 seasons between 2017-2020).

Be interesting to revisit in 5 games.

Bristol City's record after 30 matches in the same league/division

	GP	W	D	L	GF	GA	Pts *	Comparison
2022-2023	30	10	9	11	40	39	39	-
2021-2022	30	9	7	14	39	54	34	+ 5 pts
2020-2021	30	12	3	15	29	41	39	0 pts
2019-2020	30	14	8	8	44	40	50	-11 pts
2018-2019	30	14	8	8	38	29	50	-11 pts
2017-2018	30	14	9	7	42	33	51	-12 pts
2016-2017	30	9	5	16	41	44	32	+ 7 pts
2015-2016	30	6	10	14	25	47	28	+ 11 pts
2012-2013	30	8	4	18	42	58	28	+ 11 pts
2011-2012	30	8	6	16	25	44	30	+ 9 pts
2010-2011	30	9	8	13	35	44	35	+ 4 pts

Davefevs will be seething! 

[Numero Uno]

Just now, Percy Pig said:

So what you're saying is that only 3 times in the last 14 years have we had more points at this stage at this level.

Nice!

 

3 times in the last 11...........

[Numero Uno]

What makes me laugh is a post from someone (Andy) taking the piss (out of himself) ended up so serious...............

[Port Said Red]

25 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

 

 

Thought I'd look to see how we are doing in comparison to last season (and beyond).

Goals against looks the biggest improvement (other than the 3 seasons between 2017-2020).

Be interesting to revisit in 5 games.

Bristol City's record after 30 matches in the same league/division

	GP	W	D	L	GF	GA	Pts *	Comparison
2022-2023	30	10	9	11	40	39	39	-
2021-2022	30	9	7	14	39	54	34	+ 5 pts
2020-2021	30	12	3	15	29	41	39	0 pts
2019-2020	30	14	8	8	44	40	50	-11 pts
2018-2019	30	14	8	8	38	29	50	-11 pts
2017-2018	30	14	9	7	42	33	51	-12 pts
2016-2017	30	9	5	16	41	44	32	+ 7 pts
2015-2016	30	6	10	14	25	47	28	+ 11 pts
2012-2013	30	8	4	18	42	58	28	+ 11 pts
2011-2012	30	8	6	16	25	44	30	+ 9 pts
2010-2011	30	9	8	13	35	44	35	+ 4 pts

Judging by that Lee Johnson must have gone to Scotland because their seasons are so much shorter.

[mozo]

23 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

So what you're saying is that only 3 times in the last 14 years have we had more points at this stage at this level.

Nice!

 

Or the second worst in in the past 5 years 

[Davefevs]

28 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

Well I was going by the dates, it's 11 seasons at this level across that time. 

7 minutes ago, mozo said:

Or the second worst in in the past 5 years 

Nice posts both.  There really needs to be a standardised approach to avoid how easy it is to manipulate numbers to prove a point!!!

The “form” one is the best.  Is it 5 like on bbc website, or 6 or 8 like others.  I prefer 6 / an even number as that’ll mean you usually get an even split of home and away.

[cidered abroad]

2 hours ago, lenred said:

I’m genuinely amazed at the ’master technicians’ on here who now seem to think that their pretending to know about team set up and what was best for City somehow masks their desperation for Pearson to leave now that we’re improving.   I don’t recall hardly anyone talking about formations and how we should change and that was the reason he should go - I just remember certain posters bellowing on about how shit he was at man management, how much of a dinosaur he was and how he has no clue about modern day football. From recall most of the people discussing formations were supporters of Pearson and the job he was doing. Maybe I’m getting forgetful though in my middle age! 

 

If you are forgetful now, you have a wonderful future especially when you approach your 80th birthday.

One can remember everything from your first forty/fifty years but not five minutes ago.

Go to your shed or garage and you are unable to remember why?

Get off the train at Parson Street at 1.30pm when City are home and walk to the other platform and catch a train home. At ten pm you suddenly remember that you missed the game.

[David Brent]

People were telling me it was worse than under Dean Holden.

It’s never been. Not even close. 

 

[mozo]

58 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Nice posts both.  There really needs to be a standardised approach to avoid how easy it is to manipulate numbers to prove a point!!!

The “form” one is the best.  Is it 5 like on bbc website, or 6 or 8 like others.  I prefer 6 / an even number as that’ll mean you usually get an even split of home and away.

I think the most important part of the the season comparisons is that we're currently on track for an improvement on last season. 

In terms of blocks of games, last six is a pretty good indicator of momentum, or lack thereof. 

[The Bard]

2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

 

 

Thought I'd look to see how we are doing in comparison to last season (and beyond).

Goals against looks the biggest improvement (other than the 3 seasons between 2017-2020).

Be interesting to revisit in 5 games.

Bristol City's record after 30 matches in the same league/division

	GP	W	D	L	GF	GA	Pts *	Comparison
2022-2023	30	10	9	11	40	39	39	-
2021-2022	30	9	7	14	39	54	34	+ 5 pts
2020-2021	30	12	3	15	29	41	39	0 pts
2019-2020	30	14	8	8	44	40	50	-11 pts
2018-2019	30	14	8	8	38	29	50	-11 pts
2017-2018	30	14	9	7	42	33	51	-12 pts
2016-2017	30	9	5	16	41	44	32	+ 7 pts
2015-2016	30	6	10	14	25	47	28	+ 11 pts
2012-2013	30	8	4	18	42	58	28	+ 11 pts
2011-2012	30	8	6	16	25	44	30	+ 9 pts
2010-2011	30	9	8	13	35	44	35	+ 4 pts

Interesting to compare  this season to 2 seasons ago. We've got the same points but the underlying performance is relegation form. Scored 11 less , conceded 2 more. People forget how lucky we were to win a number of games that season. We were utter dogshit in reality and Holden was sacked shortly after when things inevitably unravelled.

[bcfc01]

2 hours ago, Percy Pig said:

So what you're saying is that only 3 times in the last 14 years have we had more points at this stage at this level.

Nice!

 

I'm not saying anything.

Just putting it up.

You make of it what you will - couldn't give a toss tbh.

[bcfc01]

Just now, Percy Pig said:

OK... 

Whatever.

If you want to misrepresent posts, as you do, go ahead.

 

[cidered abroad]

13 hours ago, mozo said:

I think the most important part of the the season comparisons is that we're currently on track for an improvement on last season. 

In terms of blocks of games, last six is a pretty good indicator of momentum, or lack thereof. 

The last six matches in this season are a collection of difficult encounters. Hopefully, we will be nowhere near the trapdoor by then, so the squad should be able to play with complete relaxation. That is when one gets good results because Pearson will not allow them to go on holiday early.

[mozo]

2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

The last six matches in this season are a collection of difficult encounters. Hopefully, we will be nowhere near the trapdoor by then, so the squad should be able to play with complete relaxation. That is when one gets good results because Pearson will not allow them to go on holiday early.

Apologies to anyone that believes in the power of jinx, but I really don't think there will be a fear of relegation from now on. In my opinion we need another 8/9 points for survival and I'm comfortable that we'll keep our points rate at over 1ppg in February and March.

It'll be interesting to see how high we can keep our standards, particularly, like you say, when there is 'nothing to play for'. 

Getting into the right habits and mindset now can set the tone for next season, and the management team will be getting on the players cases right to the end I would imagine. 

[Evocare]

On 11/02/2023 at 18:13, cidercity1987 said:

Just to clarify the OP was the biggest detractor

andy0898 still talking crap a decade on i see, :laugh: otib never changed ;dddd 

[GrahamC]

Second anniversary today of the 6-0 defeat at Watford, to be followed by an even worse performance in the 2-0 defeat at home to Reading, Holden being sacked & then the abysmal Barnsley home defeat, Kalas’ “waiting for our own death” post match comments, plus Paul Simpson effectively saying that him & Downing didn’t know what to do.

All this with a wage bill miles higher than now & totally out of control.

Just a little bit of context for you…

Plus, much as I rate Pearson (& always have) he certainly isn’t our only “proper manager in the last 30 years” that is hugely insulting to Gary Johnson, Cotts & even although it didn’t work out here, O’Driscoll & McInnes.

But we all know why that oddball keeps relentlessly posting it, someone made him cry..

[Gert Mare]

I've always felt that a manager needs to show that they are a leader and to psychologically get the players to buy-in, believe and be prepared to run through brick walls for their leader.

I think that it is evident on the pitch now that the players are working tirelessly for each other and believe that they can compete and take this club in the right direction.

I remember Clive Whitehead mentioning that Alan Dicks was a sort of father figure to the squad that got us promotion back in 1976 and I see the same thing in NP. He doesn't hide in his pre and post match interviews and he doesn't try to baffle anyone with 'football science speak' like previous managers have tried to do. He is firm, but fair and knows what he wants to achieve. I've tried to look at the bigger picture and have stated before how broken the club was when he stepped into the job. 

I was over the moon with his appointment and amazed that we managed to get such a well known name into the club, especially considering that the job that he was coming into was an almost impossible task!

Let's not forget that the Leicester side that won the premier league was effectively assembled by him, and look at the season before he left when he created the 'great escape' for them. Ranieri had an easier job because NP had done all of the groundwork. He has the ability to instill belief and a feeling of togetherness in his squad. I think that we are starting to see the same thing happening here and I'm so pleased that we have remained patient.

It's great to have an air of positivity around the club again, because it's been stale for far too long.