Top Robin Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Auto......off the scale orgasmic Play offs.....excellent Position 10 to 6.....acceptable Below 10....failure 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 The interesting thing now is that expectation levels are going back up to where they were under LJ. Next season it will finally be Nige's squad and he'll probably have some cash to spend to finish a big part of the rebuild. Everyone at the club will be talking about 'pushing on' and 'challenging in the top half' etc. The negative is that there will be less patience for poor form when it does arise. I think a bottom half finish will be sewn as failure, which adds pressure. We can't fully judge until we've got the transfer business done but as it stands now I'd be hoping for an encouraging top 10 finish with signs of further improvement. Anything better would be a bonus obvs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Auto......off the scale orgasmic Play offs.....excellent Position 10 to 6.....acceptable Below 10....failure Without the squad being understood it’s impossible really. Just want improvement so more than 59 points and higher than 14th. Auto are unbelievable playoffs are barely believable 6 to 10 would be an achievement but ultimately disappointing 10 to 14 would be ok but dull 14 to 21 disappointing and ultimately unacceptable below 21 getting the bed sheets out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExiledAjax Posted May 12, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Just improve. Improve on the pitch, improve off the pitch, stick to the plan and principles and get ourselves into a position where we can make our own luck. Do that and I think more points and a higher finishing position are possible. 18 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) I think the key has to be improvement, young players developing and more young players coming through. I think the hope for me is a consistent season without major dips in form and a 10 - 15 point improvement on this season. However the league position isn't just about how we play but how other teams play too. In 2013 68 points was enough for Leicester to finish 6th on goal difference. In 2017 75 wasn't enough for Leads and the 6th placed team (Fulham) had 80. I feel we could and should expect enough consistency and improvement to get to somewhere between 65 and 70 points (e.g. winning 3 games we drew and drawing 3 games we lost would take us to 68 points) but 80 points would be a major improvement that could be beyond us. Edited May 12, 2023 by LondonBristolian 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted May 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, mozo said: The interesting thing now is that expectation levels are going back up to where they were under LJ. Next season it will finally be Nige's squad and he'll probably have some cash to spend to finish a big part of the rebuild. Everyone at the club will be talking about 'pushing on' and 'challenging in the top half' etc. The negative is that there will be less patience for poor form when it does arise. I think a bottom half finish will be sewn as failure, which adds pressure. We can't fully judge until we've got the transfer business done but as it stands now I'd be hoping for an encouraging top 10 finish with signs of further improvement. Anything better would be a bonus obvs. I think Niges expectations will be greater as by next season he will have created that team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 I'm approaching my 80th birthday and my hopes for next season and many more to follow are that I'm still physically able to get to home matches. The progress since Nigel Pearson arrived has stuttered at times. However, I believe, like many others, that we are steadily improving with a much smaller squad but much more together than the preceding three years. I know we may lose Alex Scott to cash loaded Premier but I feel more confident that that income will be used wisely by Tinman and Nige. Sides that struggle to win matches are usually those that find it hard to score. But our major problems have been at the other end of the field so the recruitment of midfielders and defenders together with Pearson's knowledge as a pretty decent defender in the top two leagues, should be the big improvement area. I am confident that it will be and I also feel that we could be spending a lot of time in the top six of the coming season. 6 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Let's see who comes and goes first. Ask again in August. Oh alright, top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 I'd like to think play-offs might be attainable: There will still be cash issues at the club - even if what we think might happen, does happen - and the Championship will still be distorted by parachute payment clubs. Ultimately, if we have a decent shot at the play-offs but fall a bit short I'll not be disappointed. As long as we've contended for them seriously and NP continues to bring on young stars, that's a good season in my book. Sometimes an unlucky injury or two at the wrong time can throw the best laid plans into chaos, although equally sometimes 'injury unluckiness' can shake the team up in ways that prove unexpectedly good; you need luck as well as hard-work to make it in this league. The only unacceptable season would be one where we are constantly in the gravitational pull of relegation. I don't expect that to happen but, as someone once said, it is a funny old game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 I don’t really subscribe to this ‘just improve on last season, 13th, progress’ idea as we’ve done that, got to 8th… then fell back towards battling relegation. It doesn’t always have to be slow and steady. Sunderland were League 1 last season, but saw a chance for the play-offs right now and took it. Next season will be our 9th at this level, while we’ve been here many teams have hit the right formula and taken their chance. Right now we have a good, hungry young team, a good manager and everything off the pitch is PL ready. So next season, we go for top 6. If we don’t make it, so be it. But we push hard for the play-offs, they’re doable! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Depends on what cash is given to Nige by the current owner or new owner,if it’s pittance I still expect a top 10 finish because we can all see a massive improvement with the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 54 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Auto......off the scale orgasmic Play offs.....excellent Position 10 to 6.....acceptable Below 10....failure Auto promotion with 139 points 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 I can't see us finishing in the play offs, 3 big teams coming down and some well supported teams coming up. Coventry's achievement on their budget gives hope to non parachute payment teams though. Overall I think between 8th and 12th is most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 A lot to conisder at this point. Which sides will be in the division with us, does Scott go, how much of that is reinvested. In terms of our general direction, we are headed the right way and i think there is every reason to expect a positive season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockwood gate Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 I can’t see anything better than half way , if Scott,kalas and Jay go and we replace with 3 league 1 players we are not any stronger, I also don’t have much faith in Tinnion/Pearson getting the correct players in 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Priority 1 - avoid relegation. Priority 2 - promotion (through P/O if needed) 3 - Upper half finish 4 - FA Cup 5 - League Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I think the key has to be improvement, young players developing and more young players coming through. I think the hope for me is a consistent season without major dips in form and a 10 - 15 point improvement on this season. However the league position isn't just about how we play but how other teams play too. In 2013 68 points was enough for Leicester to finish 6th on goal difference. In 2017 75 wasn't enough for Leads and the 6th placed team (Fulham) had 80. I feel we could and should expect enough consistency and improvement to get to somewhere between 65 and 70 points (e.g. winning 3 games we drew and drawing 3 games we lost would take us to 68 points) but 80 points would be a major improvement that could be beyond us. As an example, our total of 59 points would have seen us finish 12th in both L1 and L2 this season, whilst in last season's Championship it wouldn't have seen us improve on the 17th place we achieved at that time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 punk Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 play offs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: It doesn’t always have to be slow and steady. Sunderland were League 1 last season, but saw a chance for the play-offs right now and took it. Next season will be our 9th at this level, while we’ve been here many teams have hit the right formula and taken their chance. But was a play-off place the expectation of Sunderland fans last May? Or was it a hope at that point, then a feasible possibility once they got a good start and appointed Mowbray, and then became an expectation what.. around about February? For example I hope for top two, I think top 8 is a feasible possibility, but all I expect is improvement. 36 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Right now we have a good, hungry decent young team, a good manager and everything most stuff off the pitch is PL ready. Personally I think we have the above, and I think expectations of top 6 are high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Stockwood gate said: I can’t see anything better than half way , if Scott,kalas and Jay go and we replace with 3 league 1 players we are not any stronger, I also don’t have much faith in Tinnion/Pearson getting the correct players in I agree, as in reading this thread that there are going to be a hell of a lot of unhappy Bristol City supporters next season - it seems that the consensus is that anything lower than 10th place would be unacceptable. It's going to be interesting on here. Nigel will need a tin hat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, CodeRed said: I can't see us finishing in the play offs, 3 big teams coming down and some well supported teams coming up. Coventry's achievement on their budget gives hope to non parachute payment teams though. Overall I think between 8th and 12th is most likely. Honestly can’t see Southampton being anywhere near with the owners they got and that squad,Leeds and Leicester will be up there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Personally think at no stage should we be in a relegation battle, realistically would like us to be in the top half and progressing, but I'm happy as long as we don't start flirting with 17th or lower at any stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Stockwood gate said: I can’t see anything better than half way , if Scott,kalas and Jay go and we replace with 3 league 1 players we are not any stronger, I also don’t have much faith in Tinnion/Pearson getting the correct players in Kalas hasn’t been here this season barely so it’s only 2 really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Automatic Promotion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Just now, exAtyeoMax said: Automatic Promotion We need to be uncatchable after 36 games, or I'm taking my ball and going home. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 44 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: But was a play-off place the expectation of Sunderland fans last May? Or was it a hope at that point, then a feasible possibility once they got a good start and appointed Mowbray, and then became an expectation what.. around about February? For example I hope for top two, I think top 8 is a feasible possibility, but all I expect is improvement. Personally I think we have the above, and I think expectations of top 6 are high. This is what I mean with my post. I certainly think it possible we get in the play-offs and - whilst I don’t think it likely - it is not impossible we compete for automatic promotion but I think those things should be possibilities rather than expectations. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 Surely it's a discussion when we know the ins and outs? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted May 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Super said: Surely it's a discussion when we know the ins and outs? That should have nothing to do with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, BigTone said: Auto promotion with 139 points Why will we have one point more than the possible maximum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted May 12, 2023 Report Share Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Stockwood gate said: I can’t see anything better than half way , if Scott,kalas and Jay go and we replace with 3 league 1 players we are not any stronger, I also don’t have much faith in Tinnion/Pearson getting the correct players in Halfway i reckon as you said league 1 players can only get you so far look at Boro loans from villa but quality signings . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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