Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, ExiledAjax said: The real fairytale is Sheikh Mansour's luck! In only the second Man City game he has ever attended since buying them all those years ago - they won the Champions League! Incredible luck, just incredible. Last game he attended was a win too I believe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 It’s nice to see how many people are happy for them but this isn’t the beautiful story some are telling. 115 financial breaches - the repercussions would kill off a ‘non-elite’ club. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Last game he attended was a win too I believe! Incredible run from him. What an incredible owner and diehard fan he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, ExiledAjax said: Incredible run from him. What an incredible owner and diehard fan he is. Lucky charm clearly! Let's hope he doesn't go home and away, over land and sea or Man City may sextuple the lot, 100 percenters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Great performance from Inter, a bit unlucky too in the second half: it wasn't enough, but I'm really PROUD of the Nerazzurri! Congratulations to Man City. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, BCFCGav said: It’s nice to see how many people are happy for them but this isn’t the beautiful story some are telling. 115 financial breaches - the repercussions would kill off a ‘non-elite’ club. If I'm honest watching it I keep thinking money something feels wrong about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: It’s nice to see how many people are happy for them but this isn’t the beautiful story some are telling. 115 financial breaches - the repercussions would kill off a ‘non-elite’ club. Yeah it's certainly no Fairy Tale. I mean I take my hat off- as well as the finances they are very well run, impeccably so- Pep is a top class coach, a productive academy certainly profitable on player sales but there is a large asterix too. Edited June 10, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Pleased for Man City fans, before the money come in they’d always have been considered a great fan base. Nothing more boring than the mocking of their support for lacking numbers, which isn’t true anyway. Always seemed a good bunch whenever I’ve come across them on holiday etc. They’d almost always talk more about their days when they were shite than they will modern times. Will be a great night for them tonight. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Haven’t read the thread so if I’m repeating i apologise . Man City had to beat us to win the treble , so fair play they deserve it 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: It’s nice to see how many people are happy for them but this isn’t the beautiful story some are telling. 115 financial breaches - the repercussions would kill off a ‘non-elite’ club. I think people might be pleased for the fans (long term ones ) and their team on the pitch but yes there will be that nagging feeling is it all fair ? But then if it wasn’t Man City be someone else Edited June 10, 2023 by Markthehorn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 For me I lost any sympathy for Inter during the game because of their injury fakes. I can't watch that, we saw similar in the World Cup from some players. They need to tap into the spirit of this guy:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-65865904 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: Pleased for Man City fans, before the money come in they’d always have been considered a great fan base. Nothing more boring than the mocking of their support for lacking numbers, which isn’t true anyway. Always seemed a good bunch whenever I’ve come across them on holiday etc. They’d almost always talk more about their days when they were shite than they will modern times. Will be a great night for them tonight. Yup, that's my experience of them as well - pleased for them. Would also say that Man City and Pep always respect their opposition and the competition they're in. We've played then three times and each time they've put out a strong side and been completely professional. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: I think people might be pleased for the fans (long term ones ) and their team on the pitch but yes there will be that nagging feeling is it all fair ? But then if it wasn’t Man City be someone else Yes somewhat conflicted on it. Great players, great team- Pep clearly a top top coach, some beautiful football and obviously very well run, academy and all. 115 charges however was it. That is quite the question even if a lot of them were perhaps on the way up rather than the present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said: For me I lost any sympathy for Inter during the game because of their injury fakes. I can't watch that, we saw similar in the World Cup from some players. They need to tap into the spirit of this guy:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-65865904 Di Marco was the worst. Minimum of two 'falls'. Didn't think they were too bad with it however overall. Compare it to Roma v Sevilla e.g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Incredible run from him. What an incredible owner and diehard fan he is. Just wonder how he managed to get a ticket having not seen them play all season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Game itself, Haaland was relatively quiet by his standards. I mean you can't be top level every week but I wonder what if any tactical lessons can be gleaned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 The one and probably only thing I like about BT sport is they don’t waste ages apologising when someone swears. If that was Sky when Pep dropped the F word even at this time of night they would have spent 5 minutes saying sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Mildly pleased an English club won it. Otherwise I was neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: It’s nice to see how many people are happy for them but this isn’t the beautiful story some are telling. 115 financial breaches - the repercussions would kill off a ‘non-elite’ club. They've not been found guilty of those charges. Chelsea have proven that throwing money around doesn't guarantee success. What Man City have done in a footballing sense is truly incredible. Man City don't even throw money around either so it can't be argued that they brought the league. Haaland - 50 million, Akanji - 30 million, Alverez - 15 million etc etc etc. What superstars have Man City brought? The elite just hate it that a real working class club (with some financial backing) have scaled to the very top of world football and are now immortal. Just let the proper Man City fans enjoy their success. We'd all be in dreamland too if it happened to our club. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Well done Man City, good for an English Club to win again just a pity about the ownership/finance issues that sours it somewhat for me. Thought Stones was a MoM candidate. Pep has transformed him from a liability into a more than capable performer on one of the World’s biggest football stages. That shows why he’s the world’s best manager. Thought Haaland was pretty anonymous though. Begin to wonder if top European defences might have sussed how to contain him. Also thought the Man City fans seemed pretty quiet for most of the night. Will be interesting to see what penalties will be imposed on any breaches they’re found guilty on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: They've not been found guilty of those charges. Chelsea have proven that throwing money around doesn't guarantee success. What Man City have done in a footballing sense is truly incredible. Man City don't even throw money around either so it can't be argued that they brought the league. Haaland - 50 million, Akanji - 30 million, Alverez - 15 million etc etc etc. What superstars have Man City brought? The elite just hate it that a real working class club (with some financial backing) have scaled to the very top of world football and are now immortal. Just let the proper Man City fans enjoy their success. We'd all be in dreamland too if it happened to our club. Part of me does agree. Lot of long suffering fans, tended to be well supported even when in the doldrums etc- prior to 2008 surely the working class side of Manchester too. Otoh the early days they posted some record losses. I know a business strategy etc can eat major losses to turn it into a profitable enterprise medium to long run but some big losses and fees thrown around certainly. Think they spent rather a lot in 2017-18 without doubt although that said PSG are undoubtedly worse. Innocent until proven guilty but until verifiably proven innocent then that question will linger. Ortega Free (Yes I know backup only), Alvarez and to some extent Akanji strong pickups pound for pound. Haaland well there was a huge signing on or agents fee tbh. Yes fans have suffered a lot, but otoh the reaction if some of them to UEFA charges and now, petulant and arrogant in the extreme. Ludicrous claims about cabal etc. Edited June 10, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: I don’t get why fans and pundits constantly forget that we all love football because of how many shocks we see. Man City fans predicting 4-0 on the radio. Amazing What shocks do we see nowadays when the best play the best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: They've not been found guilty of those charges. Chelsea have proven that throwing money around doesn't guarantee success. What Man City have done in a footballing sense is truly incredible. Man City don't even throw money around either so it can't be argued that they brought the league. Haaland - 50 million, Akanji - 30 million, Alverez - 15 million etc etc etc. What superstars have Man City brought? The elite just hate it that a real working class club (with some financial backing) have scaled to the very top of world football and are now immortal. Just let the proper Man City fans enjoy their success. We'd all be in dreamland too if it happened to our club. I dunno man. When 115 charges are brought to your door something is clearly amiss! Factor in too it’s not all transfer fee. The Haaland deal for instance will come to a grand total of 160 million should he serve all 5 years. And he’s one of a few superstars they’ve bought. Ederson, Laporte, Dias… they may not have come from Europes elite clubs but their ability was well known and they weren’t cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 ***** the lot of them never seen them play LIVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, sticks 1969 said: ***** the lot of them never seen them play LIVE Same with Liverpool/ Manchester United fans **** them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: They've not been found guilty of those charges. Chelsea have proven that throwing money around doesn't guarantee success. What Man City have done in a footballing sense is truly incredible. Man City don't even throw money around either so it can't be argued that they brought the league. Haaland - 50 million, Akanji - 30 million, Alverez - 15 million etc etc etc. What superstars have Man City brought? The elite just hate it that a real working class club (with some financial backing) have scaled to the very top of world football and are now immortal. Just let the proper Man City fans enjoy their success. We'd all be in dreamland too if it happened to our club. Don’t just look at the transfer fee mate,Haaland will earn quad what his transfer fee was at least through wages in a season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: They've not been found guilty of those charges. Chelsea have proven that throwing money around doesn't guarantee success. What Man City have done in a footballing sense is truly incredible. Man City don't even throw money around either so it can't be argued that they brought the league. Haaland - 50 million, Akanji - 30 million, Alverez - 15 million etc etc etc. What superstars have Man City brought? The elite just hate it that a real working class club (with some financial backing) have scaled to the very top of world football and are now immortal. Just let the proper Man City fans enjoy their success. We'd all be in dreamland too if it happened to our club. I lean towards this side of the argument on the financial stuff. The FFP rules were put in place primarily to prevent newcomers from spending their way to the top. The rules are arbitrary and weren't even a thing 10-15 years ago so I don't take them too seriously. There is no asterix against their successes for me. I haven't seen them play that poorly for a while and was more impressed with Inter on the night. Of course only the result matters so fair play to them and their supporters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 Wages aren't usually included in the remuneration package however the fee plus agent or signing on fee seems quite fair to amortise. Will restate my csse, 2008-2014, 2008-2015 very very suspect, 2015-present probably compliant certainly with PL regs. (£105m plus allowables in each 3 year period). Basically gap between possibly Inflated and real sponsorship still probably sees them comply with this rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Baba Yaga said: I lean towards this side of the argument on the financial stuff. The FFP rules were put in place primarily to prevent newcomers from spending their way to the top. The rules are arbitrary and weren't even a thing 10-15 years ago so I don't take them too seriously. There is no asterix against their successes for me. I haven't seen them play that poorly for a while and was more impressed with Inter on the night. Of course only the result matters so fair play to them and their supporters. Perfectly valid regulatory position although without FFP- and it is in some ways an artificial construct- what kind if squads could PSG and Man City hold and maintain. Could e.g. Man City still have Zinchenko, Sterling, Jesus in addition. Depth insane. PSG still retain last year Navas- depth again, Herrera, Wijnaldum, Gueye, Paredes, Di Maria, Icardi- post January Sarabia. Others too. The numbers both could then rest for the League, to rotate with Team 1 and Team B. What would the risk then be of Abu Dhabi v Qatar finals every year. Edited June 10, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Percy Pig said: Because they've been charged with over 100 breaches of financial rules. That's not spending to win, that's cheating. They've made the top division significantly worse. Without Liverpool for 4 years and Arsenal this it would be a farmers league like Ligue 1 Yeah lets bring Manu back to the top of the table with their small amount of money. Hang on thry might do it with some overseas investment. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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