Lrrr Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Doubt it. As at the point of contract cessation he became unemployed. Think he may be entitled to 1 extra month, could be wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Just seen the footage of them off for a cycle and not a cycle helmet in view, which is poor imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Think he may be entitled to 1 extra month, could be wrong Yes, I think you are right and it's because the terms offered are inferior to his existing contract. Thing that get's me about Kalas is that he's known of this offer for 6 months and his agent should have had, by now, a list of suitors lined up but there doesn't appear to be any does there? Or certainly not any so far that have offered him better terms than we have. A good player when at the top of his game and fit, but right now I feel Nigel is indulging Kalas by going along with his continuing indecision and this seems out of character for a manager who's made it quite clear that he only wants to work with players that are committed to the cause here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne End Red Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Think he may be entitled to 1 extra month, could be wrong Of course he’s entitled to an extra month, why wouldn’t he be !!! Those poor footballers can barely scrape by. it’s the least we can bloody do !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, headhunter said: I feel Nigel is indulging Kalas by going along with his continuing indecision How so? Kalas hasn't joined up for pre-season and now as a free agent he's not in Austria. All seems in order with his contract situation. If that's being indulged by Pearson I'd hate to find out what being penalised is like. On the general list of players in Austria - I tried to find the list of who went last season. Wanted to compare it to who then played a major part over the season. My hypothesis being that it's not particularly indicative of who is and isn't in favour. I couldn't find it though. However, this is the starting line up and (used) subs for our first pre-season match last season: Bentley (C), Klose (Towler 60'), Atkinson (Tanner 60'), Naismith (Vyner 60'), Wilson (Idehen 60'), James (Massengo 60'), Williams (King 60'), Dasilva (Pring 60'), Sykes (Bell 60'), Wells (Conway 60'), Martin (Weimann 60) In bold are the players (7 of them or 33%) who then didn't really feature or were sold/released in January. Add Dasilva to the list as we tried to get him out in January. So yeh, on that basis I'd not put too much value on who is/isn't in Austria. Edited July 3, 2023 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: Higher altitude so the players have to work that bit harder with an aim of creating better stamina. I noticed last season that the squad was able to last a match better than many previous City team. That's my opinion, some will agree and some will not. It’s true…City’s running stats in the final third of last season were higher than anyone else’s in the Champ. The aim now is to turn that running into more effective / efficient running. 1 hour ago, Bas's perfect hattrick said: If Kalas' contract has expired and he hasn't reported back for training, is he still getting paid? 53 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Think he may be entitled to 1 extra month, could be wrong 27 minutes ago, headhunter said: Thing that get's me about Kalas is that he's known of this offer for 6 months and his agent should have had, by now, a list of suitors lined up but there doesn't appear to be any does there? Or certainly not any so far that have offered him better terms than we have. A good player when at the top of his game and fit, but right now I feel Nigel is indulging Kalas by going along with his continuing indecision and this seems out of character for a manager who's made it quite clear that he only wants to work with players that are committed to the cause here. What is said publicly is not necessarily what is happening in private, is it? Its quite possible, club have removed the offer, but haven’t announced it, and maybe aren’t planning to either until it suits them. It’s quite possible, Nige is very disappointed and has moved on. If it’s still on the table (personally I doubt it), in terms of Tomas coming back to us and saying “hey, I’d like to sign now” I’d suggest he’s put himself at a huge disadvantage because he’s missed out on pre-season. I think it would have to be new contract talks. The offer pre-June 30th would’ve assumed a seamless extension. That is no longer the case. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, headhunter said: Yes, I think you are right and it's because the terms offered are inferior to his existing contract. Thing that get's me about Kalas is that he's known of this offer for 6 months and his agent should have had, by now, a list of suitors lined up but there doesn't appear to be any does there? Or certainly not any so far that have offered him better terms than we have. A good player when at the top of his game and fit, but right now I feel Nigel is indulging Kalas by going along with his continuing indecision and this seems out of character for a manager who's made it quite clear that he only wants to work with players that are committed to the cause here. Can't help but think your not understanding contracts/agents and how it all works Kala's/Nige done nothing wrong in my opinion and I'm sure they are happy with where they are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, frenchred said: Can't help but think your not understanding contracts/agents and how it all works I bloody hope he does…he’s a Senior Recruiter in real life, hence the forum name! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, headhunter said: Thing that get's me about Kalas is that he's known of this offer for 6 months and his agent should have had, by now, a list of suitors lined up but there doesn't appear to be any does there? Or certainly not any so far that have offered him better terms than we have. Could just be a case of options open, given how quickly things in football change, they’ve probably all (City included in this) set a deadline and working on that, although I’m surprised it wasn’t by the first day of a pre-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Jerseybean said: Just seen the footage of them off for a cycle and not a cycle helmet in view, which is poor imo I did think that the Tour de France peloton was looking a a bit ropey compared to previous years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Jerseybean said: Just seen the footage of them off for a cycle and not a cycle helmet in view, which is poor imo Didn't we all talk about this last year? Only children aged 12 and under are legally required to wear a helmet in Austria. Yeboah may be young, but I believe he's older than 12. It's fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Mr X said: Am I right in thinking Pearson always takes his teams to Austria for pre-season training? (excluding Covid) Yes - and because it was already booked under Pearson, Claudio Ranieri was announced by Leicester at the camp venue we're at, so it was where Leicester prepared for winning the Premier League. Ranieri had camp there for Leicester the following season also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: It’s true…City’s running stats in the final third of last season were higher than anyone else’s in the Champ. The aim now is to turn that running into more effective / efficient running. What is said publicly is not necessarily what is happening in private, is it? Its quite possible, club have removed the offer, but haven’t announced it, and maybe aren’t planning to either until it suits them. It’s quite possible, Nige is very disappointed and has moved on. If it’s still on the table (personally I doubt it), in terms of Tomas coming back to us and saying “hey, I’d like to sign now” I’d suggest he’s put himself at a huge disadvantage because he’s missed out on pre-season. I think it would have to be new contract talks. The offer pre-June 30th would’ve assumed a seamless extension. That is no longer the case. Saved me typing exactly this. Be very surprised if the original offer is even on the table anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 10 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Didn't we all talk about this last year? Only children aged 12 and under are legally required to wear a helmet in Austria. Yeboah may be young, but I believe he's older than 12. It's fine. Can’t remember tbh if this was discussed previously, my point is less about the legal requirements and more about protecting our assets. Although it is unlikely a head injury to one of our players, if they were involved in an accident while cycling, would rightly lead to significant criticism and perhaps worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Can’t remember tbh if this was discussed previously, my point is less about the legal requirements and more about protecting our assets. Although it is unlikely a head injury to one of our players, if they were involved in an accident while cycling, would rightly lead to significant criticism and perhaps worse. Actually, I thought the same as you. I am very much a ‘Do as I say, not as I do’ person, as I don’t wear a helmet skiing or cycling, but, despite my own foolhardiness, I should have thought the Club might/should have insisted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Actually, I thought the same as you. I am very much a ‘Do as I say, not as I do’ person, as I don’t wear a helmet skiing or cycling, but, despite my own foolhardiness, I should have thought the Club might/should have insisted. You should be more careful, Phil as there’s a real likelihood that those onions you’re forced to wear around your neck may get caught in the spokes of your bike. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Footage from day one: https://youtu.be/5JelyGt44tU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Footage from day one: https://youtu.be/5JelyGt44tU Day 1 of the camp and hardly any sign of the manager. It's quite a unique style he's got isn't it, because I can't imagine watching the same sort of video for all the other Champ clubs and barely seeing their gaffer involved. You just see him in the background, prowling. Love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Day 1 of the camp and hardly any sign of the manager. It's quite a unique style he's got isn't it, because I can't imagine watching the same sort of video for all the other Champ clubs and barely seeing their gaffer involved. You just see him in the background, prowling. Love it. Yep, he’s a manager, he empowers his “team”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Day 1 of the camp and hardly any sign of the manager. It's quite a unique style he's got isn't it, because I can't imagine watching the same sort of video for all the other Champ clubs and barely seeing their gaffer involved. You just see him in the background, prowling. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 In Big Nige we trust... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsontour Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Hmm, anyone else noticed the squad are all wearing what, I believe, are Ōura smart rings? Never seen that before...small gains monitoring off field as well as on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Yep, he’s a manager, he empowers his “team”. Including this man: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/players-taking-on-pre-season-challenge-rennie/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davefevs Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Including this man: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/players-taking-on-pre-season-challenge-rennie/ I said on Twitter yesterday, he is a very important cog in the Bristol City wheel. He is right in the thick of everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexukhc Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Lots on Marlee François really think he’s gonna be the next breakthrough next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 I can’t help but notice how happy Nahki Wells looks, not just these latest but all recent videos like this. He really looks like he’s loving life. When he arrived he could sometimes give the impression he didn’t want to be here. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Probably a daft question on my part but. Kalas and King..assuming they're not on the pre season tour and as such are off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Kalas and King..assuming they're not on the pre season tour and as such are off? King is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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