MelksRed Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 None - SL needs a fall guy... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I don't think Preston are a good team. I think they are a team that will frustrate a lot of sides who are better than them. It's important to be realistic about our flaws but that's a very different thing to pretending every team who beats us is more terrible than they are. Their tactical shape of 3-5-1-1 on the road will catch a few out too. It's unusual at this level. Edited August 20, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 We need to strengthen the entire spine of the side IMO - GK (Iversen’s available), CB - (Kalas?), AMC - (?), ST (?) - but I don’t think we’ll sign anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Some people seem to think that a manager acquiring players is as easy as a kid in a sweet shop. Pearson has already said that we have our targets but it is a question of whether they are doable (for a variety of reasons) and that there is no point acquiring players for the sake of it, not least as that might prevent us signing players that we really want in January. Edited August 20, 2023 by eardun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRedRobin Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, tin said: We need to strengthen the entire spine of the side IMO - GK (Iversen’s available), CB - (Kalas?), AMC - (?), ST (?) - but I don’t think we’ll sign anyone. I really don't think we will sign a goalkeeper. I would welcome a goalkeeper to compete with Max but I don't think Pearson sees it as a massive priority with the other positions that need strengthening. Don't get me wrong Iversen would be a good signing but I don't think Pearson is looking at that sort of goalkeeper. If we go for a goalkeeper I think they will be older than Iversen and even more experienced. Also, I thought yesterday was Max's best performance of the season. Bar a couple of kicks out I thought he made a couple of good saves to keep the score down and that came when the team in front of him wasn't great (A part from James). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, MrRedRobin said: I really don't think we will sign a goalkeeper. I would welcome a goalkeeper to compete with Max but I don't think Pearson sees it as a massive priority with the other positions that need strengthening. Don't get me wrong Iversen would be a good signing but I don't think Pearson is looking at that sort of goalkeeper. If we go for a goalkeeper I think they will be older than Iversen and even more experienced. Also, I thought yesterday was Max's best performance of the season. Bar a couple of kicks out I thought he made a couple of good saves to keep the score down and that came when the team in front of him wasn't great (A part from James). Neither do I; I don’t think we’ll sign anyone. But, those are the positions we need to strengthen in and Iversen is an upgrade on O’Leary IMO, which fits the profile of the type of player Nige wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, MrRedRobin said: I really don't think we will sign a goalkeeper. I would welcome a goalkeeper to compete with Max but I don't think Pearson sees it as a massive priority with the other positions that need strengthening. Given the death stare Pearson’s given Max for his kicking in the previous two (league) home games, you might be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 I wouldn’t be surprised to see us trade to get what we need. Pring is an obvious contender, maybe speculation is based on something. If that happens 4/5 incomings maybe. Nige knows this could be his last season if we don’t kick on and losing Scott, McCrorie, Conway and no Atkinson leaves us looking lightweight and doesn’t help his cause, which is why he is probably only now considering loans. Unfortunately Anis and Cornick have not delivered as yet and Knight and Roberts may need time. Only Dickie looks comfortable out of our recent signings. It’s not a great situation just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Two or three IMO at best, defensive cover, possibly via a loan, hopefully Murphy although he is with an eye on the future and potentially an established creative midfielder. Given NPs preference to do early business and our wage ceiling can’t see anything much than 2-3 more happening and at the same time wouldn’t be surprised if nobody is added! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Johnny Musicworks said: I wouldn’t be surprised to see us trade to get what we need. Pring is an obvious contender, maybe speculation is based on something. If that happens 4/5 incomings maybe. Nige knows this could be his last season if we don’t kick on and losing Scott, McCrorie, Conway and no Atkinson leaves us looking lightweight and doesn’t help his cause, which is why he is probably only now considering loans. Unfortunately Anis and Cornick have not delivered as yet and Knight and Roberts may need time. Only Dickie looks comfortable out of our recent signings. It’s not a great situation just now. We have just traded a £20-25m asset. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, eardun said: Some people seem to think that a manager acquiring players is as easy as a kid in a sweet shop. LJ and Ashton never had any trouble with this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We have just traded a £20-25m asset. Indeed we have but it’s not unreasonable to assume that our Plan B (With Scott gone) possibly included a maximum amount to be given to Nige from the £25m for one possibly 2 decent players to replace him. Then McCrorie and Conway suddenly need replacing so Plan B becomes Plan C and 4 needed for the same amount unless we can trade another 1 for another 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, eardun said: Some people seem to think that a manager acquiring players is as easy as a kid in a sweet shop. Errrr… rewind 3 years… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 FW, AM for sure. Possibly a GK to bridge the gap between O'Leary and Wiles-Richards/Bajic. Cannot in all honestly see more than 3, and TBH it may just be one or two. Think Naismith will just be CD until Atko is fit, with King as back-up. Any ETA for him - or McCrorie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: LJ and Ashton never had any trouble with this Exactly. And look where that got us. The approach now is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrizzler Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 hours ago, BUTOR said: “They’re my players and they’ll get my absolute support because I know, and we know internally, what the situation is” Apart from Wells who he'd, seconds earlier, blamed for us not scoring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, Johnny Musicworks said: Unfortunately Anis and Cornick have not delivered as yet and Knight and Roberts may need time. Only Dickie looks comfortable out of our recent signings. It’s not a great situation just now. That is a poor showing. It doesn't give me too much confidence in the ability of Nige to recruit the right players. Or is it that once they get here they regress. Aside from frustration for us fans, they are also also expensive mistakes in terms of £s Cant imagine managers in the mould of Thomas Frank or Roberto de Zerbi messing up like this. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Or is it that once they get here they regress. One of the worrying aspects is that yesterday Mehmeti looked a shadow of the promising wide player who could take on and beat defenders, terrify defences and win countless yards. That's what he was when he arrived, but he seems to have had the creativity coached out of him. I hope I'm wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: One of the worrying aspects is that yesterday Mehmeti looked a shadow of the promising wide player who could take on and beat defenders, terrify defences and win countless yards. That's what he was when he arrived, but he seems to have had the creativity coached out of him. I hope I'm wrong. This is just my opinion ; When Mehmeti came he looked exciting, but always went inside onto his right foot. Quickly sussed he became less effective and too predictable. I think that is why Bell gets the nod a lot of the time, he is happy to go outside but has the option to cut onto his stronger foot. Annoyingly he wasted several opportunities by trying to cut inside yesterday. The coaching has been to get Anis to use his left more and go outside the defender more often. While he has started doing that noticeably , it is still early days and he's not looked comfortable. I believe that threat will come as he settles into the role. I've been impressed with his tracking back and tackling though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: This is just my opinion ; When Mehmeti came he looked exciting, but always went inside onto his right foot. Quickly sussed he became less effective and too predictable. I think that is why Bell gets the nod a lot of the time, he is happy to go outside but has the option to cut onto his stronger foot. Annoyingly he wasted several opportunities by trying to cut inside yesterday. The coaching has been to get Anis to use his left more and go outside the defender more often. While he has started doing that noticeably , it is still early days and he's not looked comfortable. I believe that threat will come as he settles into the role. I've been impressed with his tracking back and tackling though. I think the lack of effectiveness came less from being sussed, but more from either running two paces too far, or wrong decision regarding crossing. There's where we are working no doubt on his game, but the result seems to be that rather than beat men, he now just runs into them - and loses possession. Of course, we could add that he was asked to do lots of tracking back and defensive tackling yesterday because our midfield was AWOL - but that's covered on other threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Hopefully 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Although the squad does obviously need strengthening if we are to progress further, I wouldn't be surprised if only one or two signings are made. I could never have imagined that after all these years of SL's tenure, BCFC would have come to little more than a feeder club for AFC Bournemouth. Tens of millions of pounds garnered from selling our best talent on, a rugby club and basketball team gained. Whatever happened to the idea of BCFC in the top flight of English football?? Edited August 20, 2023 by Red_Alligator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Red_Alligator said: Although the squad does obviously need strengthening it we are to progress further, I wouldn't be surprised if only one of two signings are made. I could never have imagined that after all these years of SL's tenure, BCFC would have come to little more than a feeder club for AFC Bournemouth. Tens of millions of pounds garnered from selling our best talent on, a rugby club and basketball team gained. Whatever happened to the to idea of BCFC in the top flight of English football?? Perhaps SL I'm sorry to say has subconsciously given up a little. "I've tried the steady building "I've tried the infrastructure, whixh btw is a decent platform. "I've given it somewhat of a go and look at what nearly happened there!" Combine that with the Parachute Payments discrepancy that shows no sign of going any time soon- do turkeys vote for Christmas- the seemingly forlorn hope that the Championship would reset post Covid financially, it's starting to rise again but a mixed bag and the Salary Cap that was on the horizon being no closer he has bet on a horse that is struggling to get over the 2nd hurdle right now. He has either subconsciously given up or parked his ambition a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Henry said: If we don’t, I don’t think Pearson is here last Christmas. Unless we are in a proper relegation scrap, I think Pearson’s job is safe this season. Out of contract at the end of it so makes sense to keep him for the remainder. I’ve no doubt we’ve got one eye on his replacement already. He’s seen us through a very rocky patch and if it’s another sub standard 14th-19th finish we’ll most likely part ways. As for signing 5 players…. HA! That’s definitely what we need but it isn’t happening. I’d settle for 3 at this point, striker, Scott replacement and a keeper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Imagine getting to deadline day and bringing in some Irish academy prospect and resigning Kalas and Massengo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Perhaps SL I'm sorry to say has subconsciously given up a little. "I've tried the steady building "I've tried the infrastructure, whixh btw is a decent platform. "I've given it somewhat of a go and look at what nearly happened there!" Combine that with the Parachute Payments discrepancy that shows no sign of going any time soon- do turkeys vote for Christmas- the seemingly forlorn hope that the Championship would reset post Covid financially, it's starting to rise again but a mixed bag and the Salary Cap that was on the horizon being no closer he has bet on a horse that is struggling to get over the 2nd hurdle right now. He has either subconsciously given up or parked his ambition a bit. Do you think some of the “life” went out of it for him when he realised Jon wasn’t interested in taking it on? And now he’s kinda stuck? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 You cannot sell Semenyo and Scott for a combined £35 million and then just get a few bodies in the door. We need match winners because at the moment we don't have any. That is what Scott and Semenyo were for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Do you think some of the “life” went out of it for him when he realised Jon wasn’t interested in taking it on? And now he’s kinda stuck? Exactly this. Steve has created an unsellable monster IMO. You can imagine someone wanting a football club to develop but when you add in rugby and basketball you can see the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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