jbcfc Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 so, our ‘technical director’ goes on air this morning to voice our desire to play a certain style of football, just for the club to hire someone who plays more or less the same brand of football. they really must think we’re stupid to believe it was a footballing decision. is eustace all he’s made out to be? i hope so, and i’ll be getting behind the bloke. i’m not convinced, but if he’s in charge by saturday, let’s make it as good of an environment for him as possible during the 90 mins. i’m still fully behind displays and/or chants against the lansdowns before, after and even during the game, because they are quite simply incompetent and in my 20+ years supporting city, i’ve never had faith in them to do the right thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Tafkarmlf said: So it is totally a knee jerk spurred on by blind rage. Right oh, glad that's sorted. Living the Peter principle is just embarrassing at this point Er…. Please continue. I get the vague impression that you don’t really understand rage, or the Peter Principle. Feel free to Google your response, which I will ignore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said: Tinnion afaik and quite happy to be corrected has been involved in the youth coaching and technical side since the likes of Tommy Doherty came through. He's what, been in the new job for two minutes and you'll not hear many going what a crappy job with recruitment, barring we could have done with 2 more. He's never been Technical Director before,so your comparison is perhaps somewhat blighted by anger and remains stuck on one result 19 years ago Sorry, I really don't understand your point, I'm not allowed to judge him on the job he's doing now because he's only just started? Nor the similar job he did previously? What I can do though is judge him on some other job roles with a very different skillset and criteria? I'm not angry by the decision made to remove Pearson, I'm disappointed by the timing and feel like he's been shit on massively. What I'm angry about is the inconsistent communication, lack of ownership and culpability and lies from senior figures of this football club. If you're happy burying your head in the sand because of your previous issues with Pearson then full power to you. Edit - Apologies to everybody else for biting and derailing the thread, should know better... Edited October 31, 2023 by hinsleburg 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Tafkarmlf said: Ah the old antagonist response. Well have a fab evening Toodle Pip! Don’t let that door smack your arse on the way out, mind. Cheers easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, RedHienz said: Aww kitten bless you. Such a valued contribution yet again, the wit of the west. All the best.......if you keep looking hard enough, I'm certain one day you'll find a personalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Saw this on twitter too re Eustace by Mike Holden - interesting The situation at Birmingham. John Eustace and Wayne Rooney are polar opposite personality types. Completely different functions, different attitudes, different temperaments. They could hardly be more different. • Eustace values control (work to a plan) • Rooney values chaos (be ready for anything) • Eustace is tribe above self (shared collective cause) • Rooney is self above tribe (motivation comes from within) • Eustace works to logical criteria (tactics and strategy) • Rooney works to emotional criteria (desire and motivation) The above variables all have their own merits. They each bring varying rewards in different contexts and scenarios, over different timescales. The players don't know any of this. They haven’t got a clue what's going on. They just know its different, and it has spooked them. Big time. The players were content with the blueprint they were working to. They were invested in Eustace. Then Garry Cook does what Garry Cook does and imprints his ruthless ambition on proceedings. He doesn’t want content now, he wants success later. Big success. Bigger success than most of those players are capable of achieving. So now those players are wrestling with the realisation that this might no longer be a journey with a final destination for them. They might be surplus to requirements sooner rather than later. One minute, you're in a controlled environment and everything is settled, everyone knows where they stand and all the messages are predictable. The next minute, it's all change and the messages are different. It's unsettling. And it's bound to affect performance. This is no longer the season those players thought it was going to be. No longer the future those players thought they were going to have. Back to square one. All that conditioning in the summer? All the stuff they thought their efforts and performances were going to be judged on? It's just been ripped up and thrown out of the window. Start again. New guy, new methods. The players have gone into survival mode. For them, this is a crisis situation. Nobody knows where they stand. That collective cause that Eustace fostered? Now it’s every man for himself. When you're in survival mode, you can't be creative. You can only be creative and fully express the best version of yourself when you feel safe. And to feel safe in this context, you have to have strong convictions about yourself and your abilities. The ones who do have a long-term future at St Andrew’s will be the ones who react best to this change and step up quickest. If you can quickly adapt to this sudden threat to your livelihood, then you might just have what it takes to survive in the Premier League as well. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHienz Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, maxjak said: All the best.......if you keep looking hard enough, I'm certain one day you'll find a personalty? If you post for another 20 years im certain you'll still be irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 38 minutes ago, Fuber said: Don't get this comparison. Ironically think Eustaces situ at Brum reminded me very much of what NP has done here. Only have to look at what's happened since they got "the name" in, for context of the job he did. Many of those clubs have links to the continent that led to said appointments. We have one of the most Brexit ownerships models in the league by comparison. Would understand this view (puppet, easy option, merry-go-round) much more if it was Rowett or Dean Smith, but it isnt. Its a manager who did one very good job, his only job, at this level in mostly very challenging circumstances. Your absolutely entitled to your opinion of course, I just don't agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, RedHienz said: If you post for another 20 years im certain you'll still be irrelevant. Bored now.....bye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, Oops said: Deranged. Lay off the Katy mate. I’m not using my season ticket until the reptiles in charge are gone. The very best of luck to the next patsy who takes charge of the shit show that is BCFC The so called reptiles are going to be in charge for some time and beyond this season. Tell us where your ST is : Stand/Block/ seat and how much you want for it now you are not going to use it? Let me guess ...... perhaps it was a rhetorical season ticket 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, bristol red said: DT I was there.. this is worse.. in those days people were willing and able to invest.. thankfully and we survived… no one in there right noddy is going invest in Bristol Sport losing £30m plus a year… Not sure about that…the Venkys might have relatives who are interested..they by all accounts did not know about the concept of relegation when they acquired Blackburn Rovers… trust me, they are out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oops Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: The so called reptiles are going to be in charge for some time and beyond this season. Tell us where your ST is : Stand/Block/ seat and how much you want for it now you are not going to use it? Let me guess ...... perhaps it was a rhetorical season ticket Dolman, E Block. Seat 25. Row 40 You’re welcome to it. Come and introduce yourself next time I can be arsed, we’ll negotiate a price. Edited October 31, 2023 by Oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, HoldenBall said: Happy with this. Did a good job at Birmingham. Did he?....33% win ratio and only has 63 championship matches to his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: The so called reptiles are going to be in charge for some time and beyond this season. Tell us where your ST is : Stand/Block/ seat and how much you want for it now you are not going to use it? Let me guess ...... perhaps it was a rhetorical season ticket Mine's definitely not. As stated elsewhere will turn up saturday to say my fond farewell to the Lansdowns and then won't return till they're gone. Considered giving them away, but I want those seats to remain empty. Pointless I accept, but it's about principles isn't it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, reddoc said: Mine's definitely not. As stated elsewhere will turn up saturday to say my fond farewell to the Lansdowns and then won't return till they're gone. Considered giving them away, but I want those seats to remain empty. Pointless I accept, but it's about principles isn't it? So, let's say the new guy comes in, we win 6 games in a row and are up to 3rd. You telling me you are still staying away? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 So is this guy coming or do we have 13 pages of bollox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, REDOXO said: So is this guy coming or do we have 13 pages of bollox! 13 pages of bollocks, the last 3 are just a few old soaks bickering. Come back in a few days would be my advice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, REDOXO said: So is this guy coming or do we have 13 pages of bollox! You’re a youngster. I’ve had 50 years of mainly bollox but the last three days and those two videos have been up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) Exactly that...Stop Bickering! Don't necessarily believe the bookies.... Edited November 1, 2023 by Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNachos Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I didn't want this dismissal but it may possibly be a positive step , impossible to know either way yet - but the reaction on here is as big a circus as the dismissal. Let's see in the next few weeks how it all pans out and exactly what ongoing protests there actually are? It's very easy for people to say that they won't go to BS3 when they already don't go to BS3. Why would someone who has genuinely given up supporting City spend their time on OTIB ? As for the alleged "season ticket holders" also so say refusing to continue their support - strange no one is selling their cards on here. For the right price, they'll be takers. I very much disagree with you in your defence of Tinnion and Lansdown, but the state of the reaction is pretty astonishing. The board have made what I feel to be a really poor and misguided decision, for all the wrong reasons. I'm irritated and wholehartedly disagree with Pearson's dismissal. But we aren't Reading. We aren't Wednesday or Scunny or god forbid Bury. All decisions made (I'm sure) are made with the ambition to improve the direction of the club. The anger at them is due to a really ignorant decision made by the board, but the club is financially solid and there are games to go to. We have no reason to riot and protest. Fans can voice their disgruntlement with the decision, but Lansdown and co haven't committed genocide, they've made a bad decision. They may not be the right fit to run the club to its maximum efficiency, but they would never intentionally damage the performance of City. We have a right to be angry, but also need sense. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, Tomo said: Did he?....33% win ratio and only has 63 championship matches to his name? Then again, Pearson only had 32% as BCFC manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: I didn't want this dismissal but it may possibly be a positive step , impossible to know either way yet - but the reaction on here is as big a circus as the dismissal. Let's see in the next few weeks how it all pans out and exactly what ongoing protests there actually are? It's very easy for people to say that they won't go to BS3 when they already don't go to BS3. Why would someone who has genuinely given up supporting City spend their time on OTIB ? As for the alleged "season ticket holders" also so say refusing to continue their support - strange no one is selling their cards on here. For the right price, they'll be takers. Because I don't have to give the vermin a penny of my money to come on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuni Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Then again, Pearson only had 32% as BCFC manager Precisely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 38 minutes ago, Tomo said: Did he?....33% win ratio and only has 63 championship matches to his name? They were odds-on favourites for relegation when he took over last summer. Birmingham, Reading and Rotherham were comfortably the bookies favourites to go down pre-season, Brum and Reading were both a shambles off the field. I remember this well because, about this time last year, all 3 were above us in the league! It's never easy here So in that context yes he did well, look where Reading are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 Birmingham wage bill wise etc and relegation, not like the squad was really anything other than midtable to lower midtable. Inept Governance of which Birmingham had plenty can drag even a reasonable side down and being really well run can elevate some sides. I don't see how a wage bill of £25-30m most likely is relegation worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbeast Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 If what Brian Tinnion say about having to play "their way" even down to the formation is true then I'll be disappointed in any self respecting manager that take the job. Once more the owner and board want to micromanage the playing side of the club albeit this time they have someone who has played (and played well for us) and managed (very poorly)to stroke their egos. I'm not one of those who demand a manager to be sack nor one to complain about a manger appointment (with the exception of Tony Pulis in both cases) so whoever gets appointed will have my backing being a fan of Bristol City not Bristol Sport or Steve Lansdown. But Lansdown needs to realise that the best person for the job might not the best personality. The right man for the job will set his side up his way and play his own style and as long as he is reasonably back with transfer funds will bring the success that has, so far, eluded Steve Lansdown in his time in charge of the club. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, The Journalist said: Just for context, a man with fewer Football League games as a manager under his belt than Lee Johnson when we appointed him. Context is everything . 100+ games in the hot seat at Kidderminster in NatLg. 3-4 seasons as an assistant manager at QPR at this level too. Some international experience with Ireland… 5 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: At least he has zero connection to cosy Bristol City unlike many of our previous appointments Hold his beer!!! ….so would know Sykes, O’Leary and Knight. will know Dickie and Wells from QPR. Played at Derby with Kalifa Cisse (!!!!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, cheese said: https://luorns.substack.com/p/john-eustace-captain-leader-legend?r=1b89vy&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web Remember that article at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobtherobin Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, HoldenBall said: Happy with this. Did a good job at Birmingham. Sorry - what did he do at Birmingham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Zuni said: Precisely. Fair play. Late night at the Bristol Sport offices. You're a worker. I'll give you that. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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