Numero Uno Posted December 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, transfer reader said: It is very simple to do, which is why it's weird that you're hypocritical over it, and why you won't find me doing it. You haven't directly done it in this post, but there's been enough comparisons between the 2s interview styles that your active serlarching for something to dig at is indirectly point scoring. A more subtle way, but you're still doing it. I think you are being extremely defensive tbh. LM has used this term in every post-match interview to the point that he’s even aware of it HIMSELF. It’s unusual. Not every poster on here holds massively polarised views. You don’t need to defend him against everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: I think you are being extremely defensive tbh. LM has used this term in every post-match interview to the point that he’s even aware of it HIMSELF. It’s unusual. Not every poster on here holds massively polarised views. You don’t need to defend him against everything. I don't defend him against everything, just the unnecessary sly bullshit. Edited December 26, 2023 by transfer reader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, transfer reader said: I don't defend him against everything, just the unnecessary sly bullshit. Nothing sly about my post. You are being over sensitive. That’s your issue not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Nothing sly about my post. You are being over sensitive. That’s your issue not mine. 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: No, I’m a bit of a miserable ***, just like you. The irony. Edited December 26, 2023 by transfer reader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted December 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, transfer reader said: The irony. There is no irony in that statement if you know what irony means. Have a good evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 Dinosaurs all offended by “big words” again. Im actually loving the process.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: There is no irony in that statement if you know what irony means. Have a good evening. You got over sensitive about someone else's reply and resorted to abusing them. Then you called me over sensitive for pointing out your sly jibes at Manning. Shall I say hypocrisy instead? But it is also irony, as your words would suggest you wouldn't be someone who is over sensitive about things, but your behaviour has contradicted that. Edited December 26, 2023 by transfer reader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: The bloke's growing on me and I couldn't care less what words he uses. If he keeps things going I don't care if he talks about box entries! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kid in the Riot Posted December 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, spudski said: It's the over use of a term that's not regularly used in day to day talk. In the same way ' box entries' was used by LJ...then used against him. There is a whole bunch of info in coaching, on creating a language to be used by players and coaches alike within a club. And reasons for it. Creating positives. Using that language when conveying with the public is different as it can lead to negatives. A mix is best, especially to underline certain coaching phrases. That's also instructed to coaches whilst developing. It will do him no favours long term when things turn for the worst, which will happen, as it does with all coaches at some point. Interestingly Nige used "box entries" in an interview, and barely anyone mentioned it. POMOs is a coaching term that's been around for at least 25 years. Yet LJ got absolutely slated for it as everyone thought it was some modern bullshit coaching terminology. It's still commonly used. End of the day the manager/coaches post/pre-match interviews aren't there for our entertainment. You're probably similar to me in that I listened to every interview by Nige as I found the psychology he used interesting. I also listened to every SOD interview as I found his take on processes and coaching interesting. Cotterill, LJ, and I can already tell with Manning, on the other hand...Will I listen to all their interviews? No way. Is that a problem? No, their job is to entertain me on the pitch, not with soundbites. Manning is never going to give fascinating insight into his interviews, sooner people get used to that, the better. Results and performances on the pitch is what he should be judged on. 18 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 26, 2023 Report Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Interestingly Nige used "box entries" in an interview, and barely anyone mentioned it. POMOs is a coaching term that's been around for at least 25 years. Yet LJ got absolutely slated for it as everyone thought it was some modern bullshit coaching terminology. It's still commonly used. End of the day the manager/coaches post/pre-match interviews aren't there for our entertainment. You're probably similar to me in that I listened to every interview by Nige as I found the psychology he used interesting. I also listened to every SOD interview as I found his take on processes and coaching interesting. Cotterill, LJ, and I can already tell with Manning, on the other hand...Will I listen to all their interviews? No way. Is that a problem? No, their job is to entertain me on the pitch, not with soundbites. Manning is never going to give fascinating insight into his interviews, sooner people get used to that, the better. Results and performances on the pitch is what he should be judged on. Yes I agree. I guess it's the over use of a term, the fact people are picking up on it...and that Manning even noted it himself as being ' boring'. Seems we have the same likes in our managers interviews. Not judging the guy...just pointing out something that irritates and obviously does others. Keep on producing the results and performances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 14 hours ago, Numero Uno said: I’ll post an explanation alongside every single post I make in future. That’s pretty fair. Thanks for the advice. You two, behave...............it's Christmas ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 15 hours ago, spudski said: It's the most irritating phrase he uses. Just say ******* ' attitude ' like normal people, rather than using phrases from the coaching manuals. Sadly as has been mentioned before...it's ingrained in his post match interviews. He has a list of phrases he uses over and over again. Funnily he actually pulled himself up today after saying it, and said ' we'll probably get bored of hearing that'. I don't think I've watched one of his interviews yet, without stopping it before the end. It's mindless coaching phrases. I've also noticed he's got that damn annoying inflection in his voice that JL has...sounds like they are being choked. Can't fault the turn around and the way he's got them playing with results. But I can't listen to him. Bores and irritates sadly. Which is annoying for me, as I like to hear decent thought out reactions. Can't have it all I guess. Great result and performance. Yes much rather have NP having a nice drawn out and detailed explanation! Especially after probably dropping 8 of the points we just picked up 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendrickDNB Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 15 hours ago, Numero Uno said: Use of the word “behaviours” in the after match interview. That’s some run of form……. Bizarre thing to point out especially after a win - he can say whatever he likes as long as we keep winning… (within reason) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Yes much rather have NP having a nice drawn out and detailed explanation! Especially after probably dropping 8 of the points we just picked up Give it a rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted December 27, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 15 hours ago, spudski said: I know...I've read the coaching manuals. However...if you asked the average fan on the street what ' behaviors' meant in coaching terms, they'd put it under the same umbrella that includes a player's attitude. It's not a term that's used in everyday language. I've mentioned it before...it's fine when you're winning, but it will be another stick to beat him with when not doing well. As LJ and Ashton found out. The counter to that would be to ask if that would be patronising to dumb down the correct use age of language so the “average fan on the street” gets it? Like you, I did enjoy that he was also self-aware enough to mock himself for his constant use of those words. Anything that shows his human side is welcomed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Superjack said: Give it a rest. You scorned NP lovers need to give it a rest. Trying to find any little detail to have a go at LM. I swear most of you would love to see him fail so much you wouldn’t mind city going down with him. Imagine Man City fans going I can’t deal with Pep’s spanish accent or when he is moody after dropping points. Embarrassing 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Ian M said: The counter to that would be to ask if that would be patronising to dumb down the correct use age of language so the “average fan on the street” gets it? Like you, I did enjoy that he was also self-aware enough to mock himself for his constant use of those words. Anything that shows his human side is welcomed. I don't see it as 'dumbing down'. Use layman's terms. Coaching has its own language for the players. Fans don't use it daily. Same with corporate talk, and law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Ian M said: The counter to that would be to ask if that would be patronising to dumb down the correct use age of language so the “average fan on the street” gets it? Like you, I did enjoy that he was also self-aware enough to mock himself for his constant use of those words. Anything that shows his human side is welcomed. I'd suggest someone had told him. Or he reads here :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 Manning also says ‘terrific’ a lot, but in the grand scheme of things, who really cares? Here’s to a great 2024 for our reds! And to whomever may read this, I’d like to wish you a happy new year! COYR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 19 hours ago, spudski said: I know...I've read the coaching manuals. However...if you asked the average fan on the street what ' behaviors' meant in coaching terms, they'd put it under the same umbrella that includes a player's attitude. It's not a term that's used in everyday language. I've mentioned it before...it's fine when you're winning, but it will be another stick to beat him with when not doing well. As LJ and Ashton found out. Seems like a bit of a stick to beat him with even when winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, the1stknowle said: Seems like a bit of a stick to beat him with even when winning. It's not...I've explained in this thread the reason why. People will find anything to use when the going is bad. It's been picked up on. Personally I don't like it...but I can live with it. Just means I won't listen to his interviews so much. I'll think of this thread if he ever goes on a losing streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, spudski said: It's not...I've explained in this thread the reason why. People will find anything to use when the going is bad. It's been picked up on. Personally I don't like it...but I can live with it. Just means I won't listen to his interviews so much. I'll think of this thread if he ever goes on a losing streak. It’s all ridiculously childish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) I wonder if somone from the club reads this forum and tells manning because he said behaviours in his post match interview and laughed after saying " I know people give me stick for saying it " Edited December 27, 2023 by BCFC31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, spudski said: It's the most irritating phrase he uses. Just say ******* ' attitude ' like normal people, rather than using phrases from the coaching manuals. Sadly as has been mentioned before...it's ingrained in his post match interviews. He has a list of phrases he uses over and over again. Funnily he actually pulled himself up today after saying it, and said ' we'll probably get bored of hearing that'. I don't think I've watched one of his interviews yet, without stopping it before the end. It's mindless coaching phrases. I've also noticed he's got that damn annoying inflection in his voice that JL has...sounds like they are being choked. Can't fault the turn around and the way he's got them playing with results. But I can't listen to him. Bores and irritates sadly. Which is annoying for me, as I like to hear decent thought out reactions. Can't have it all I guess. Great result and performance. I completely disagree with your " mindless coaching phrase" good behaviours is a fundamental in football and is clearly an important part of a liam manning side it's definitely not mindless what's mindless is this stupid threat tbh who cares what he says it's clearly doing the trick the guy has us 1 point off the playoffs and hasn't made 1 single signing of his own yet give him a break Edited December 27, 2023 by BCFC31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Tangle Foot said: Manning also says ‘terrific’ a lot, but in the grand scheme of things, who really cares? Here’s to a great 2024 for our reds! And to whomever may read this, I’d like to wish you a happy new year! COYR. Oh NO!!! I hope he doesn't turn out to be a son of PULIS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bat Fastard said: Oh NO!!! I hope he doesn't turn out to be a son of PULIS! We should be OK, P*ulis used to say triffic. English isn`t his first language you see. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 7 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: You scorned NP lovers need to give it a rest. Trying to find any little detail to have a go at LM. I swear most of you would love to see him fail so much you wouldn’t mind city going down with him. Imagine Man City fans going I can’t deal with Pep’s spanish accent or when he is moody after dropping points. Embarrassing I've never had a go at Manning. I have nothing against HIM at all. But carry on with your little story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Tangle Foot said: Manning also says ‘terrific’ a lot, but in the grand scheme of things, who really cares? Here’s to a great 2024 for our reds! And to whomever may read this, I’d like to wish you a happy new year! COYR. I really don't like the way Manning keeps saying "right?" At the end of sentences. I haven't noticed him saying "terrific" but I'd be very happy if he said "terrific" in place of "right?" That would work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 Yeah ending a sentence with right is a bit annoying. However I'm quite pro Manning, while fully appreciative of the base that he has inherited too which NP and his staff left for him.. From time to time is fine but it is a bit..I dunno, lazy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 27, 2023 Report Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, The dastardly red said: I really don't like the way Manning keeps saying "right?" At the end of sentences. I haven't noticed him saying "terrific" but I'd be very happy if he said "terrific" in place of "right?" That would work for me. That’s something I like. All different aren’t we? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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