Harry Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Someone that was mentioned in the pinned recruitment thread a few weeks back. Josh Stokes. Attacking midfielder from Aldershot. There’s been a number of Championship clubs taking a very keen interest in him. I understand we are one of those clubs who are very very interested. He’s a number 10. So maybe someone to compete with Twine if he signs permanently in the summer. An understudy perhaps until Stokes matures enough for Champ football? Anyway; here’s an obligatory YouTube vid. Anyone who watched the fa cup match Stockport v Aldershot on BBC the other week will have been suitably impressed at how he dispatched top of league 2 defenders so easily. 5 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderarmy23 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Deal is close to being completed. 4 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just 19 years old. Looks good and promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziderarmy Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The guy who does the “sensible transfers” piece on Twitter (TomhWilliams - worth a follow) is absolutely mental on this guy. Quick link to an interview with the current Aldershot boss: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 22 minutes ago, Harry said: Someone that was mentioned in the pinned recruitment thread a few weeks back. Josh Stokes. Attacking midfielder from Aldershot. There’s been a number of Championship clubs taking a very keen interest in him. I understand we are one of those clubs who are very very interested. He’s a number 10. So maybe someone to compete with Twine if he signs permanently in the summer. An understudy perhaps until Stokes matures enough for Champ football? Anyway; here’s an obligatory YouTube vid. Anyone who watched the fa cup match Stockport v Aldershot on BBC the other week will have been suitably impressed at how he dispatched top of league 2 defenders so easily. Seen enough sign him pronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstyardleftinbed Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Seen very little of him but like the strength he shows for someone relatively small and the fact he shoots well off both feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If this is on the cusp as reported it looks as though we'll stick with the 4-3-3 and the 3-4-3 on Tuesday was a quick fix. Can't see we'd sign Twine and Stokes if we're considering not utilising a 10. Anyone, this kid looks really bright. Fingers crossed we get him. Twine, Stokes and Benarous to come back, it's an area we'd suddenly be very strong in and Knight would be free to play deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 43 minutes ago, Harry said: There’s been a number of Championship clubs taking a very keen interest in him. I understand we are one of those clubs who are very very interested. 40 minutes ago, Ciderarmy23 said: Deal is close to being completed. 26 minutes ago, Ziderarmy said: Done deal. From interested to completed in 17 minutes - and people say we're not fast enough negotiators! 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Betty Swallocks Posted January 18 Popular Post Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said: From interested to completed in 17 minutes - and people say we're not fast enough negotiators! And now he’s been sold to Bournemouth, some day for young Josh Stokes. 36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Heard of him 14 minutes ago but… He is class. Carrying us to the prem on his back. What a signing!!! 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Bristol_Badger said: Is he one for now? No. I think part of any deal might be that Aldershot want him loaned back for the rest of this season. They still want to get into the playoffs and Stokes will be integral to them achieving that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: If this is on the cusp as reported it looks as though we'll stick with the 4-3-3 and the 3-4-3 on Tuesday was a quick fix. Can't see we'd sign Twine and Stokes if we're considering not utilising a 10. Anyone, this kid looks really bright. Fingers crossed we get him. Twine, Stokes and Benarous to come back, it's an area we'd suddenly be very strong in and Knight would be free to play deeper. Idk I looked at it more as 3421. Yes Mehmeti ended up wide more but natural for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Hopefully we’re not heading back to the future and collecting number 10’s…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 He has the Same agents as Scott Twine, Rob Atkinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Possible that Manning has contacts at his old club AFC Sudbury too for a character reference if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 13 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Idk I looked at it more as 3421. Yes Mehmeti ended up wide more but natural for him. Good note. So sort of split 10's. That would open up a wealth of new possibilities behind Tommy and solve our lack of wide cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 25 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: From interested to completed in 17 minutes - and people say we're not fast enough negotiators! and still on page 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted January 18 Admin Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Possible that Manning has contacts at his old club AFC Sudbury too for a character reference if nothing else. Could he have been at Ipswich at the same time as Manning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 27 minutes ago, Harry said: No. I think part of any deal might be that Aldershot want him loaned back for the rest of this season. They still want to get into the playoffs and Stokes will be integral to them achieving that. This would be really disappointing if he isn’t involved straight away, especially as the rumoured fee is £1 million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Bcfc24 said: This would be really disappointing if he isn’t involved straight away, especially as the rumoured fee is £1 million Nowhere near £1m. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Bcfc24 said: This would be really disappointing if he isn’t involved straight away, especially as the rumoured fee is £1 million £1m would be some fee for that level Transfermarkt National League record departures: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Possible that Manning has contacts at his old club AFC Sudbury too for a character reference if nothing else. I’m led to believe that Manning had his eye on him when he was at Oxford, and at a guess that likely derives from ‘contacts’ at either Sudbury or Ipswich academy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Crayola Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Is this the player Ian Gay refused to name I wonder?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted January 18 Admin Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, TammyAB said: £1m would be some fee for that level Transfermarkt National League record departures: Where's Vardy on that list? I thought he was £1m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOZZYBCFC Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Where has this been confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, Crimson Crayola said: Is this the player Ian Gay refused to name I wonder?! He refused to name names because he didn’t have a clue who it was. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, DOZZYBCFC said: Where has this been confirmed? It hasn’t. yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Nowhere near £1m. Sorry. Mightily underwhelming if he goes back to Aldershot for the season though, still hope we bring in one more attacking player but can’t see it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Ian M said: Where's Vardy on that list? I thought he was £1m? I think it's because they won promotion before he was sold. Andre Gray the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, DOZZYBCFC said: Where has this been confirmed? OTIB rule 26, subsection 4: Lack of confirmation is no barrier to speculation 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Nobody has mentioned Murphy, where does he fit in to this as he looks a similar player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Nobody has mentioned Murphy, where does he fit in to this as he looks a similar player. Exactly and if they both aren’t ready are we just stockpiling 10’s for the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Bcfc24 said: Exactly and if they both aren’t ready are we just stockpiling 10’s for the future The master plan could be Twine until the Summer while we integrate these two and save ourselves £4/5m? Or we at least look less desperate to Burnley in our negotiations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedReg Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Harry said: Someone that was mentioned in the pinned recruitment thread a few weeks back. Josh Stokes. Attacking midfielder from Aldershot. There’s been a number of Championship clubs taking a very keen interest in him. I understand we are one of those clubs who are very very interested. He’s a number 10. So maybe someone to compete with Twine if he signs permanently in the summer. An understudy perhaps until Stokes matures enough for Champ football? Anyway; here’s an obligatory YouTube vid. Anyone who watched the fa cup match Stockport v Aldershot on BBC the other week will have been suitably impressed at how he dispatched top of league 2 defenders so easily. Obviously a big step up but looks decent in that video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Exactly and if they both aren’t ready are we just stockpiling 10’s for the future He plays further back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Bcfc24 said: Exactly and if they both aren’t ready are we just stockpiling 10’s for the future Adam Murphy isn't strictly a 10 but can play there: What sort of midfield role did he tend to play for St Pat's, in what sort of system/formation? St Pat's generally play 4-2-3-1 and Adam was versatile, with the club not afraid to hand him one of the two holding roles in midfield, trusting him despite being so young. He could also play in a more advanced central role in the attacking three behind the striker. The recently crowned PFAI Player of the Year, Chris Forrester, was a St Pat's team-mate and played holding midfield a lot of the time, which meant Adam wouldn't always start. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-signing-adam-murphy-9013539 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 18 minutes ago, Crimson Crayola said: Is this the player Ian Gay refused to name I wonder?! He will be now. 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 13 minutes ago, pongo88 said: OTIB rule 26, subsection 4: Lack of confirmation is no barrier to speculation OTIB rule 27, subsection 6 @Robboreds objection to rule 26, subsection 4 is noted. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Always seems to just be jam tomorrow with this club 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, Bcfc24 said: Always seems to just be jam tomorrow with this club You seem to be annoyed we potentially might be signing a young talent. You do know the club isn't finished after this season? I wouldn't jump to the conclusion this is the last signing we might make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harry Posted January 18 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 18 21 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Mightily underwhelming if he goes back to Aldershot for the season though, still hope we bring in one more attacking player but can’t see it now Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. 27 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, RedRoss said: You seem to be annoyed we potentially might be signing a young talent. You do know the club isn't finished after this season? I wouldn't jump to the conclusion this is the last signing we might make. OTIB rule 26, subsection 5? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, Northern Red said: He will be now. Not even Ian’s wooly description covers Josh Stokes…and he was referring to a forward (not a head on a stick though - FFS ) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. Seems like we're making a few exciting young signings to bolster our already strong academy. If 2 or 3 of these make the grade at Championship level they'll be worth the modest outlay, this fella and Murphy seem to have very decent potential. I'm all for snapping up the best available youth players we can find. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 11 minutes ago, Harry said: Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. Totally agree with all that, what I meant was it underwhelming in terms of what the rest of this season looks like, as imo we still need to add 1 more that can add to the first team straight away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 23 minutes ago, Northern Red said: He will be now. He said the player we are after isn’t a striker but is out of contract in summer. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has made mates with our Tech Director. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claverham_Red Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Interesting. Looked great in their FA Cup run. I'd thought City would try to get a League 1 or League 2 loan for the rest of the season though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Our ‘punts’ on youngsters for the future used to be £2m for Eisa and £3m on Engvall. I am absolutely more than fine with our ‘punts’ (if you can even call it that as this lad seems v highly rated) coming from non league, for a fraction of the cost, now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 45 minutes ago, Crimson Crayola said: Is this the player Ian Gay refused to name I wonder?! Comments like that from Ian Gay are him saying “I know something that others don’t” and it can be likened to the old adage of ‘knowledge is power’ Typical Ian. I take it all with a pinch of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, Harry said: Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. My only disappointment would be him not being moved up to say league 2 if being loaned out again, he’s succeeding at national league level, he did very well against Stockport and therefore think a loan for the rest of the season would be a really good indicator as to where he’s at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Tbh Aldershot have a lovely little set up from academy up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Totally agree with all that, what I meant was it underwhelming in terms of what the rest of this season looks like, as imo we still need to add 1 more that can add to the first team straight away But I guess in response to that I’d say - This transfer would have absolutely no bearing on whether we bring someone else in this January. This is a young kid at low cost. It won’t impact any other business. 22 minutes ago, Claverham_Red said: Interesting. Looked great in their FA Cup run. I'd thought City would try to get a League 1 or League 2 loan for the rest of the season though? 11 minutes ago, Lrrr said: My only disappointment would be him not being moved up to say league 2 if being loaned out again, he’s succeeding at national league level, he did very well against Stockport and therefore think a loan for the rest of the season would be a really good indicator as to where he’s at. Re the loan back. I think you are both correct that ideally we’d want him at a higher level. But, if it was a condition of the deal then it’s good business. Let’s say “hypothetically” that other clubs wanted him but weren’t prepared to loan him back this season, and that this is what clinched it for us, then I guess we’d say “well done”. Aldershot have hopes of the playoffs. They’ll want to keep Stokes to aid them in that pursuit. So if we’ve been prepared to play ball on that and it’s kept us in the running then it’s good. Edited January 18 by Harry 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 34 minutes ago, DaveF said: Seems like we're making a few exciting young signings to bolster our already strong academy. If 2 or 3 of these make the grade at Championship level they'll be worth the modest outlay, this fella and Murphy seem to have very decent potential. I'm all for snapping up the best available youth players we can find. Exactly. For me it’s the way we should always be doing things. It’s all well and good having the academy pathway, but not every player is gonna make it. So for me we should always be looking for the best 17-20 year olds in the lower leagues - low cost, high potentials. Without going over old ground, we should have done this for the likes of Grimes, Watkins, Bowen, Key, Twine when they were all available for under half a mil (some even less) when local. Given this, picking up the likes of Stokes is very much a step in the right direction. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Harry said: But I guess in response to that I’d say - This transfer would have absolutely no bearing on whether we bring someone else in this January. This is a young kid at low cost. It won’t impact any other business. Re the loan back. I think you are both correct that ideally we’d want him at a higher level. But, if it was a condition of the deal then it’s good business. Let’s say “hypothetically” that other clubs wanted him but weren’t prepared to loan him back this season, and that this is what clinched it for us, then I guess we’d say “well done”. Aldershot have hopes of the playoffs. They’ll want to keep Stokes to aid them in that pursuit. So if we’ve been prepared to play ball on that and it’s kept us in the running then it’s good. I agree if it was the clincher in getting the deal over the line then fine by me. Plus it's not the end of the world he stays with Aldershot. He's doing well at a decent standard and I'm a firm believer that momentum is massive in football. If he carries on doing well in a familiar team that's more of a benefit than potentially joining another club higher up the pyramid and getting a bit part role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, Harry said: But I guess in response to that I’d say - This transfer would have absolutely no bearing on whether we bring someone else in this January. This is a young kid at low cost. It won’t impact any other business. Re the loan back. I think you are both correct that ideally we’d want him at a higher level. But, if it was a condition of the deal then it’s good business. Let’s say “hypothetically” that other clubs wanted him but weren’t prepared to loan him back this season, and that this is what clinched it for us, then I guess we’d say “well done”. Aldershot have hopes of the playoffs. They’ll want to keep Stokes to aid them in that pursuit. So if we’ve been prepared to play ball on that and it’s kept us in the running then it’s good. If it was the only way to keep us in the running sure, hard to think it would be the case though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityFarAndWide Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 21 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Tbh Aldershot have a lovely little set up from academy up Can vouch, I spent some time there and have nothing but positive experiences, hindered by catchment area a little but superb setup with what they are working with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not even Ian’s wooly description covers Josh Stokes…and he was referring to a forward (not a head on a stick though - FFS ) Wooly description eh? So, possibly a forward with a curly perm? Probably a Gay red herring (cue the jokes). Difficult, if not impossible, to find someone fitting that description nowadays. Edited January 18 by Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 59 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Always seems to just be jam tomorrow with this club Jam tomorrow is the only way we can build and grow, our jam tomorrow is the likes of Aldershot, Bournemouth’s jam tomorrow is us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 11 minutes ago, Harry said: Exactly. For me it’s the way we should always be doing things. It’s all well and good having the academy pathway, but not every player is gonna make it. So for me we should always be looking for the best 17-20 year olds in the lower leagues - low cost, high potentials. Without going over old ground, we should have done this for the likes of Grimes, Watkins, Bowen, Key, Twine when they were all available for under half a mil (some even less) when local. Given this, picking up the likes of Stokes is very much a step in the right direction. I agree. You can’t spot every player at 7, in fact they may not even be local (enough) to anyway. And just like finding non-league / lower league nuggets, players released like Alex Scott too. 1 minute ago, bexhill reds said: Jam tomorrow is the only way we can build and grow, our jam tomorrow is the likes of Aldershot, Bournemouth’s jam tomorrow is us. I hope Bournemouth’s jam has pips in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Harry said: Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. I can see why people feel underwhelmed. It’s always the future of the club as oppose to doing a Boro and Hull and actually going for it now. We will forever just sell and replace, sell and replace. It’s a hamster wheel, I am fine if that’s what we expect to be, a mid table champ side, but the owners, Tinnion etc all spout PL talk year in, year out. Well back it up! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I can see why people feel underwhelmed. It’s always the future of the club as oppose to doing a Boro and Hull and actually going for it now. We will forever just sell and replace, sell and replace. It’s a hamster wheel, I am fine if that’s what we expect to be, a mid table champ side, but the owners, Tinnion etc all spout PL talk year in, year out. Well back it up! It’s sensible though isn’t it. Not sure why we can’t be happy with highly regarded youngsters from lower leagues which many other teams at our level (and above) were interested in too. Edited January 18 by Harry 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Harry said: It’s sensible though isn’t it. Not sure why we can’t be happy with highly regarded youngsters from lower leagues which many other teams at our level (and above) were interested in too. Not denying that but we are a poor attacking outfit and we desperately need some quality in final third. Twine is a good addition but we don’t have enough X Factor. Need it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 23 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I can see why people feel underwhelmed. It’s always the future of the club as oppose to doing a Boro and Hull and actually going for it now. We will forever just sell and replace, sell and replace. It’s a hamster wheel, I am fine if that’s what we expect to be, a mid table champ side, but the owners, Tinnion etc all spout PL talk year in, year out. Well back it up! I’m minded to view this deal in the context of two windows. I’ve been vocal on the Twine deal that I don’t think it makes sense in view of where we are likely to be this season - this one does make sense, but only if it’s not the only major incoming over this and the summer window (for avoidance of doubt I dont think we should be spending big this window). Hes 19 with seemingly a strong upside. It seems we can either buy now and loan back or have more competition/cost if he stays put and carries on as he is. So, it makes sense. And it’d be easy to say it only makes sense if we are signing others as well as development signings like this - but that argument is probably one that needs to be viewed across both now and June-August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Harry said: Exactly. For me it’s the way we should always be doing things. It’s all well and good having the academy pathway, but not every player is gonna make it. So for me we should always be looking for the best 17-20 year olds in the lower leagues - low cost, high potentials. Without going over old ground, we should have done this for the likes of Grimes, Watkins, Bowen, Key, Twine when they were all available for under half a mil (some even less) when local. Given this, picking up the likes of Stokes is very much a step in the right direction. Entirely agree and we'd likely be in a better state now if we had done this. Historically we've been a bit snobbish about non league players. Us oldies remember when the Gas had a reputation for picking up gems from non league clubs. Peterborough have also been good at that but we seemed to think it was beneath us. Tinnion produced another hostage to fortune when he said the next crop from the Academy were even better than the last mind you so you could legitimately ask why we are signing young players if that's true. But as you say you need a balanced approach. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Harry said: It’s sensible though isn’t it. Not sure why we can’t be happy with highly regarded youngsters from lower leagues which many other teams at our level (and above) were interested in too. You’re right, in as far as it’s one for the future, he’s in our jam tomorrow file. The point the poster you were responding to was making is, how does this get us promoted this season? Where is the striker we all know we need? This policy almost guarantees Championship football at best, forever. We lack goals, and besides a fit Conway and a fit Wells, we don’t have anyone capable of scoring regularly enough to get us promoted. At some stage we have to decide in January to go for it. This signing (if indeed he does) wouldn’t count as going for it. So, is there another signing besides Twine that would indicate that. Answer: No If there aren’t any further signings one could make a case that our present policy will see Tinnion in a nice comfy job at Bristol City right up to retirement. Without anything to get excited about apart from the odd cup run. Edited January 18 by Lord Northski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. I raise you Birkenhead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Lew-T said: I raise you Birkenhead. Stoke and Doncaster. You literally see rats running around the streets of Donny and that's not a joke either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 This lad will be 20 by the end of the season. By no means old! But at that age nowadays you’d have expect them to be in and around the first time. Not always the case I know. Pring didnt break through until couple of season ago. Forget he is 26. But that tends to be the exception rather than the rule. Given the aim is premier league football in a couple of years (I know it’s wishful thinking!), I assume we look at this kid as some with the potential to play at that level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. Ever been to Middlesbrough?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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