Sheffield Wednesday away match thread

[BigTone]

12 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Condensed Version

Sheffield Wednesday:

They boast one of the most unusual names in English football, thanks to their Wednesday. Quite simply, the name goes back to when it was originally a cricket club that used to play their games on that day of the week.

1 all draw

COYR

And all the time I thought it was a Bank Holiday

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, ExiledAjax said:

A glutton for punishment.

I think in this game the head says it's going to be more like QPR than Southampton. Looking at stats Sheff Wednesday are in the top 3 for number of fouls, yellows, and reds. That doesn't suggest a beautiful game that's easy on the eye. Most of the tackles that lead to these errors are happening in their third. 

They sit deep, and they hit hard.

Their last one vs us helped us..Bannan red. Surprisingly overturned on Appeal but seemed a red at the time.

[Davefevs]

7 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

A glutton for punishment.

I think in this game the head says it's going to be more like QPR than Southampton. Looking at stats Sheff Wednesday are in the top 3 for number of fouls, yellows, and reds. That doesn't suggest a beautiful game that's easy on the eye. Most of the tackles that lead to these errors are happening in their third. 

They sit deep, and they hit hard.

This pretty much aligns with my view on Wednesday, they are physical and play with intensity.  We will need to be brave both with and without the ball.  This won’t be a game for the timid.  In fairness, competing in that side of the game hasn’t been a problem for a while, odd games aside.  But it’s another test of a different type of opponent.

[MarcusX]

Driving up in the morning, don't know why we do it to ourselves but a free day so I'd rather be there than anywhere else.

I fear another 10 men behind the ball, sit back and wait for us to lose it performance - but hoping they might go for it a bit as they need the points

[Robin101]

I live in Sheffield these days. Any other City fans in this city? 

[Mr Popodopolous]

6 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Driving up in the morning, don't know why we do it to ourselves but a free day so I'd rather be there than anywhere else.

I fear another 10 men behind the ball, sit back and wait for us to lose it performance - but hoping they might go for it a bit as they need the points

I think they are more positive under Rohl and given he inherited 3 points and no wins in 11, he probably had to be!

[Sleepy1968]

4 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

We are wearing black tomorrow so that spells defeat probably! 

But they look much nicer than the weak p1ss, er  sorry, 'straw', coloured tops. And don't feature splat.

[ExiledAjax]

55 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

This pretty much aligns with my view on Wednesday, they are physical and play with intensity.  We will need to be brave both with and without the ball.  This won’t be a game for the timid.  In fairness, competing in that side of the game hasn’t been a problem for a while, odd games aside.  But it’s another test of a different type of opponent.

And for the benefit of the tape here is your QPR equivalent.

So what I see here is that Wednesday are weaker going forward than QPR, in fact they're one of the worst in the division. We aren't trend-setters, but we're significantly more threatening than Wednesday. Then looking at those bottom two sets of numbers - Passing and Pressing - we see that Wednesday press a little bit less than QPR, don't turn those presses into shots as well, and their passing is significantly worse across the board. So I think that indicates that whilst we might expect a game that is nearer to QPR than Southampton on the Shite/Sublime spectrum it stands a chance of not being "full QPR" levels of shite. 

So perhaps we will manage xG of 1.0 (non-penalty). Alternatively perhaps, given their propensity for fouls and cards, we can turn a box-entry into a penalty. Either way, I think a goal is on the cards for us, which means they need to score 2 to deny us anything. Now, their attack is pathetic and our defence remains pretty solid, so I'm about as confident as I can ever be that we've a good chance of conceding fewer than 2 goals.

So my summary prediction is - an ugly game, probably low on visual quality and highly attritional, but a good chance of us coming away with a draw at worst, and if we stand firm and don't **** up then a win is not an unreasonable prediction.

Edited February 23 by ExiledAjax

[lotusman]

Impossible to predict we are the most inconsistent team in the league albeit were only " human born to make mistakes"' My only visit there was back in the early 90"s a balmy kind of evening with Ron Atkinson as their manager, they had a real star studded team not least with an ageing but still fantastic Trevor Francis. A certain Nigel Pearson their captain was still on the mend with a broken leg. We were second best but played well, Andy Leaning had a good game back in his native Sheffield, Wayne Allison scored a couple and it ended up 3:2 or 4:2. Can't remember if the former S.W. player and terrific city performer Gary Shelton was in the team that night. Mark Aizlewood  certainly was, I still remember as crude a tackle I've ever seen on Trevor Francis ,he got a yellow, Aizlewood looking back at Leaning winked at him as if to say 'I got away with that".

[Fernando]

40 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Their last one vs us helped us..Bannan red. Surprisingly overturned on Appeal but seemed a red at the time.

 

Never a red that. Had a GK and defender covering. One of the worst reds I've seen given. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 minute ago, Fernando said:

 

Never a red that. Had a GK and defender covering. One of the worst reds I've seen given. 

Ever seen given? Pfft.

Clear denial. Unsure what relevance GK has, defender maybe maybe not.

Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous

[iamalagerdrinker]

24 minutes ago, Robin101 said:

I live in Sheffield these days. Any other City fans in this city? 

Gainsborough 

[Fernando]

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Last man, red. Denial.

 

 

Its a hot yellow that 

 

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

19 minutes ago, Fernando said:

 

 

Its a hot yellow that 

 

 

Sorry yeah I made a factual inaccuracy when I said last man but..

He could have squared it with a highly likely goal had Bannan not committed the foul. That could be seen as a scoring opportunity denied.

Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous

[Mr Popodopolous]

One of the worst reds is a very blue and white tinted take though.

Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous

[Bristol Oil Services]

30 minutes ago, Fernando said:

 

Never a red that. Had a GK and defender covering. One of the worst reds I've seen given. 

Red was possibly harsh but a yellow never sufficient (he's not trying to get the ball and missing by a whisker). At yours, a yellow; down here, a red.

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Red was possibly harsh but a yellow never sufficient (he's not trying to get the ball and missing by a whisker). At yours, a yellow; down here, a red.

Exactly plus he could have squared it to Conway in space.

No foul, look up..lots of space, I'd argue reasonable chance of a goal there. I did wonder about ofgdixd but surely the Sheffield Wednesday defender back makes that moot.

Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous

[Davefevs]

25 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

And for the benefit of the tape here is your QPR equivalent.

So what I see here is that Wednesday are weaker going forward than QPR, in fact their one of the worst in the division. We aren't trend-setters, but we're signifactnly more threatening than Wednesday. Then looking at those bottom two sets of numbers - Passing and Pressing - we see that Wednesday press a little bit less than QPR, don't turn those presses into shots as well, and their passing is significantly worse across the board. So I think that indicates that whilst we might expect a game that is nearer to QPR than Southampton on the Shite/Sublime spectrum it stands a chance of not being "full QPR" levels of shite. 

So perhaps we will manage xG of 1.0 (non-penalty). Alternatively perhaps, given their propensity for fouls and cards, we can turn a box-entry into a penalty. Either way, I think a goal is on the cards for us, which means they need to score 2 to deny us anything. Now, their attack is pathetic and our defence remains pretty solid, so I'm about as confident as I can ever be that we've a good chance of conceding fewer than 2 goals.

So my summary prediction is - an ugly game, probably low on visual quality and highly attritional, but a good chance of us coming away with a draw at worst, and if we stand firm and don't **** up then a win is not an unreasonable prediction.

[Fernando]

Well, I'm sure there will be no contentious decisions tomorrow. 

 

[phantom]

5 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well, I'm sure there will be no contentious decisions tomorrow. 

 

Over to these guys 

Sheffield Wednesday v Bristol City (15:00)
THOMAS KIRK
Matthew Jones and Robert Hyde
Fourth Official : James Linington

[JP Hampton]

18 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

 

 

Back in November at home Curtis Fleming, in his solitary game in charge, steered us to a 1-0 victory, Rob Dickie got the goal, they were down to ten men for an hour after Barry Bannan saw red, the Owls successfully appealed the decision, highlights: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/highlights/highlights-bristol-city-1-0-sheffield-wednesday/

LM presser: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/home-top-featured/manning-on-training-injuries-and-more/ and https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/manning-on-owls-test/

They boast one of the most unusual names in English football, thanks to their Wednesday. Quite simply, the name goes back to when it was originally a cricket club that used to play their games on that day of the week.

Manager Danny Röhl began coaching at RB Leipzig, later working at Southampton, Bayern Munich and as assistant manager of the German national team.

In October 2023, he was appointed manager becoming the youngest manager in the EFL. He said he was looking forward to the challenge of his first managerial position.

Dominic Lorfa maybe poised for his return he has been missing since December owing to a muscle injury.

In January the Owls completed the loan signing of goalkeeper James Beadle from Brighton and Hove Albion. The 19-year-old spent the first half of the season on loan with Oxford United, where the young shot-stopper became a key member of the U’s side.

They also signed Troyes striker Ike Ugbo on loan until the end of the season. The 25-year-old Canada international was recalled from his season-long loan with Cardiff in order to join the Owls.

They pretty much universally dislike owner Dejphon Chansiri who appears to be something of a basket-case, https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday-dejphon-chansiri-news-b2439892.html and https://youtu.be/aUmg16npkOA

Players who have played for them and us include Jack Hunt, Carl Shutt, Lee Peacock, Richard O'Donnell and Tyreeq Bakinson.

Our head-to-head record, isn’t good!

Won: 19

Lost: 30

Drawn: 16

They currently occupy 23rd place with 29 points. Ashley Fletcher will be missing having got a red card last weekend when they beat Millwall away 2-0 from two shots on target.

Officials

Referee: Thomas Kirk

Assistants: Matthew Jones and Robert Hyde

Fourth official: James Linington

Here’s a good insight from one of their fans:

Ignore our season form. The only form of relevance is from our home game against Leicester on 29th Nov. Until then we’d had:- 

10 games under Xisco Munoz (2 points!!!)

1 draw under caretaker

6 games under Röhl but players were a car-crash and unfit. 
 

Since Leicester

P15. W6. D2. L7. 
 

20 points from 15 games. Hardly brilliant but certainly not a relegation team form. It’s just the huge ‘points penalty’ we incurred by having a total imposter ruining moral and fitness for 10 games. 
 

Best players by far, Bannan and Johnson. Bannan doesn’t get the plaudits he deserves from SW fans. He’s light-years better than the rest but if he dips slightly below HIS best we criticise. He’ll be the best player in the park v you; he always is. 
 

Johnson is playing LB and he’s superb. 3 goals and 3 assists from full-back in 12 starts and 2 half games since he came back from the naughty step under Munoz (seeing the common link here?). Sweetest left foot, crosses are a joy, drives forward. Oh, and he’s defending well.

 

We’ve two lightning wide forwards, Gassama and Musaba. Pigeon catchers and skilful. Their end-product is very poor. Terrible decision making. Gassama is 19. He really has the tools to be something special. If he’s on it he could destroy you. But 1 goal and 2 assists in 1000 league minutes tells you it’s rare his end product is there.

 

Pitch is shocking.

 

Röhl has the support of 95% of us. We really want him to do well. Breath of fresh air. He has come under criticism for recently adopting a 2-man midfield. Leaves us porous. 
 

19 year old loan keeper. Jury out. Personally, I think he’ll be great, but right now slightly struggling with the transition from playing L1 for Oxford in front of 8000 and Champs for Owls in front of 26000, and the pressure of a relegation fight.

 

We try to play football. Bit heart in mouth, but generally works. 

 

Thanks to Holmowl.
 

Sheffield stuff

 

Sheffield has a national park: Almost one-third of the city sits inside Peak District national Park. This is a distinction not held by any other city in the UK. This area, also called the Peak District, was given national park status in 1951; in fact, this was the first such designated area in the country. Today, the national park also includes Derbyshire, Cheshire, Greater Manchester, Yorkshire, and Staffordshire.

 

Sheffield’s trees outnumber the resident humans: the city has more than two million trees, which means there are more trees than humans. This is more than trees per humans than any other city in Europe. Where are all these trees living? You’ll find many of them in and around the city’s 240 parks, woodlands, and gardens.

 

Sheffield as been inhabited for ages: the area has been inhabited by humans since about 9,000 BC!

 

Sheffield once had the longest rainbow: back in March 1994, Sheffield was home to a record-breaking rainbow that lasted for six hours.

 

You’ll find phlegm all over: OK, you’re probably shuddering at the thought of mucus all over the city. However, we don’t mean mucus. We’re referring to one of our local artists who is called Phlegm. His works are literally found all over the city in graffiti types of art; however, his pieces are found all over the world. Back in Sheffield, Phlegm also paints murals that tell stories and more.

 

Sheffield runs on recycled energy: the city uses a district energy system, which turns domestic waste into thermal energy, which is then used to produce electricity and hot water! It takes over 225,000 tons of garbage a year to produce 19 megawatts of electricity and 60 megawatts of thermal energy. The hot water produced by this system flows through 25 miles of underground pipes to points all around the city.

 

Steel for the Brooklyn Bridge was created in Sheffield: who would have thought that that Sheffield and the Brooklyn Bridge, which is situated in New York City in the US, would have anything in common! But it does make sense when you consider that the city was once home to great steel mills.

 

About half the surgical blades in the world are made in Sheffield: that’s amazing, especially when you consider the number of surgical blades in the world. However, as a steel city, it does make sense that Sheffield is home to the factories that produce these much-needed blades that work to save lives.

 

Sheffield has a walk of fame: just outside the city’s Town Hall, you’ll find several star-shaped plaques that are engraved with the names of famous people who come from Sheffield. And they’re quite famous. The names include Jessica Ennis, Sebastian Coe, Sean Bean the actor, and more.

 

The Crucible Theatre: the theatre, for about 40 years, has been home to the World Snooker Championship.

 

Sheffield was the last gig for Tina Turner: for her 50th anniversary tour, the famous American singer had her last show at the FlyDSA Arena on May 5, 2009. This was her last live concert, after which she went into retirement.

 

Sir Arthur Conana Doyle lived in Sheffield: the creator of Sherlock Holmes was once a resident of Sheffield. In fact, he was a medic when he came to the city in 1878. He worked as an assistant to Dr. Charles Sydney Richard on Spital Hill, Burngreave.

 

Sheffield is the fourth largest city in England and the greenest city in the UK: While the city was once an industrial centre, today, the city features large numbers of trees and parks in the country. The city also features urban forests, earning the city the name “Tree City of the World.”

 

Famous people from Sheffield: the city has also been home to some pretty famous people, including Harry Maguire, the English professional footballer. Jarvis Branson Cocker, an English musician and radio presenter, is also from Sheffield—he was also the founder and frontman for the rock band Pulp. Dominic West, an English actor, director, and musician, also comes from Sheffield. He is most famous for his role as Jimmy McNulty in the TV show The Wire.

 

Pubs

 

The Railway https://railwaysheff.com accepts visiting supporters. It's located on Penniston Road and it isn't just a good place to drink, you can play retro arcade games and pool there too.

 

The Norfolk Arms https://www.norfolkarms.com

 

The Red Lion, 95 Penistone Road, Sheffield, S35 8QH

https://www.facebook.com/TheRedLion.SHF/?locale2=en_GB&paipv=0&eav=AfZECf7P5ND-1o233YirOf2oYwGwjjWzF67mq94nlZL-vkqrAGM_IkthwYO_coA9B_w&_rdr

 

New Barrack Tavern https://www.castlerockbrewery.co.uk/pubs/new-barrack-tavern/

 

The Banker's Draft, 1-3 Market Place, Sheffield, S1 2GH (Spoons) https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/south-yorkshire/the-bankers-draft-sheffield

 

The Globe, 54 Howard Street, Sheffield, S1 2LX, https://www.craftunionpubs.com/globe-sheffield?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=homepage

 

The Howard, Howard Street, Sheffield, S1 2LW, https://www.howardsheffield.co.uk/?y_source=1_MTAxNTA3ODktNzE1LWxvY2F0aW9uLndlYnNpdGU= it’s near the train station

 

The Good Pub Guide suggests the following are worth a visit https://thegoodpubguide.co.uk/?s=&gpg=Sheffield&pub_category=2-worth-a-visit

 

 

 

Great info. Particularly liked this:

 

Sheffield’s trees outnumber the resident humans: the city has more than two million trees, which means there are more trees than humans. This is more than trees per humans than any other city in Europe. Where are all these trees living? You’ll find many of them in and around the city’s 240 parks, woodlands, and gardens.

 

And:

Sheffield runs on recycled energy: the city uses a district energy system, which turns domestic waste into thermal energy, which is then used to produce electricity and hot water! It takes over 225,000 tons of garbage a year to produce 19 megawatts of electricity and 60 megawatts of thermal energy. The hot water produced by this system flows through 25 miles of underground pipes to points all around the city.

Not exactly football related but if they can why aren’t we?

[Mr Popodopolous]

19 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Well, I'm sure there will be no contentious decisions tomorrow. 

 

Am I right in thinking Sheffield Wednesday haven't yet had a penalty this year?

Nailed on tomorrow..

[RedEyez]

God knows what the team will be but alls I know is if Twine starts, it has to be centrally.

[Fernando]

18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Am I right in thinking Sheffield Wednesday haven't yet had a penalty this year?

Nailed on tomorrow..

 

Yeah, only club in the League not to have a pen. Plus I think we've given away the most. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Just now, Fernando said:

 

Yeah, only club in the League not to have a pen. Plus I think we've given away the most. 

Bit like us over a good long period, we were denied many good ones and had some unusual other decisions against us which is why I'm not too worked up about the Bannan debatable call in November.

[1960maaan]

2 hours ago, lotusman said:

Impossible to predict we are the most inconsistent team in the league albeit were only " human born to make mistakes"' My only visit there was back in the early 90"s a balmy kind of evening with Ron Atkinson as their manager, they had a real star studded team not least with an ageing but still fantastic Trevor Francis. A certain Nigel Pearson their captain was still on the mend with a broken leg. We were second best but played well, Andy Leaning had a good game back in his native Sheffield, Wayne Allison scored a couple and it ended up 3:2 or 4:2. Can't remember if the former S.W. player and terrific city performer Gary Shelton was in the team that night. Mark Aizlewood  certainly was, I still remember as crude a tackle I've ever seen on Trevor Francis ,he got a yellow, Aizlewood looking back at Leaning winked at him as if to say 'I got away with that".

I think it was 3-1 and the win guaranteed them Promotion .  
The Aizlewood tackle was an absolute stunner , could have got sent off twice About waste high on Francis around the half way line I believe,  and Wayne's goal was a cracker.. Our coach went to a local Pub and watched it again on TV , among some slightly confused locals. 

Just found this.

 

Edited February 23 by 1960maaan

[exAtyeoMax]

 

[Fernando]

12 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

 

 

Wrong side of the city. 

[exAtyeoMax]

1 minute ago, Fernando said:

 

Wrong side of the city. 

But still beautiful 

[LondonBristolian]

This is the kind of opposition we struggle with and their form is a little better than their position. I'm optimistic we will scrape a win but don't expect it to be easy or comfortable.