ProfitInMyPocket Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, RedM said: I can't get my head around how we were so up for Southampton and so opposite for QPR and Weds. Fair enough we raised our game for the cup games but to go from Southampton to this is a shambles. Because we'd have less of the ball against the bigger teams and our players work better on instinct and a more counter attacking style. Then we revert to manningball possession against the teams who don't want to dominate the ball and we get found out. Same old. So predictable. 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RedM said: I can't get my head around how we were so up for Southampton and so opposite for QPR and Weds. Fair enough we raised our game for the cup games but to go from Southampton to this is a shambles. This is it..I'd say v QPR after the triple substitution especially fell apart, we were never fantastic but it played into their hands when they were a goal up and on the break. Sykes, Dire, Cornick, Conway, Wells on the pitch at once is absurdly imbalanced. Today was mostly inept throughout though. Edited February 24 by Mr Popodopolous 3 Quote Link to comment
zideread Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Holden ball all over again…. Quote Link to comment
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Put bluntly, Manning has lost the team and the fans, or at least a match or two at the most from doing so. Manning may have lost the team but it's more JL & BT who have lost the fans, and I expect the club to get a big shock when it comes to ST renewal. 1 Quote Link to comment
eardun Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) Just watched the highlights. It looked to me that Vyner should have done better on both goals - he certainly gave the guy acres of room for the first one - and he was fortunate that a mistake didn’t result in a third. Edited February 24 by eardun Quote Link to comment
Lordofthebling Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 He sounds broken already, and it seems has zero ideas or influence.... Quote Link to comment
Offside Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Poor result and (judging from the radio commentary) performace. What a depressing week after the high of the Southampton game. 1 Quote Link to comment
petehinton Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Lordofthebling said: He sounds broken already, and it seems has zero ideas or influence.... sounds broken but most worryingly sounds confused as to how it happened, and also isn’t really making any sense 2 Quote Link to comment
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Blaming the players instead of the tactics 3 Quote Link to comment
1960maaan Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Under LJ I complained about being having less possession against sides that didn't play that way , Manning has taken us back there. Not just that but he seems to having removed any good bits from this side and made us punchless. After the Cardiff game with 12 players out and having lost 2-0 I was still enjoying the season and looking forward to having players back and fit. Now with a fully fit squad (almost) we look devoid of ideas and look very second best to the worst teams in the division . Playing well against good sides with room to play is one thing, but we are so easy to play against . Once one team does it the others learn and we have no answer , that is down to the Manager/Coach. I felt we were building something, improving , all be it very slowly , but now I have nothing to cling to to make me think we will progress any time soon. Manning seems to like playing players who are not fit, who can't manage 90 minutes or even have them on the bench . The constant rotation is baffling , I get it if we are in a run of games but they have just had a week without a game and Roberts is dropped ( or "rested") for a clearly not fit Pring . We have pre planned substitutions because player aren't able to last and favourites who seem to play , or stay on however they are performing . These are not great ways to run a team IMO. At the moment I am pissed off after another dismal display , after Ipswich it will be 3 months Manning has been in charge . If we lose at Ipswich (likely) and before that Cardiff ( equally likely) thing could get toxic for Manning. He will be here for the season, and most likely start next season but I would hope that the Lansdown's mark his card , because what I'm seeing isn't nearly good enough . That said I don't lump all the blame on LM , there are a few that are culpable . I think all we as fans can do is hope that something clicks soon , however unlikely that is there is no chance of a sacking this year , so I believe it's all we have. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Peter1450 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Nigel must watch what’s currently happening here with a wry smile after the way he was treated, Tins and JL are presiding over an absolute shit show which doesn’t feel like it’s going to end well. Quote Link to comment
bearded_red Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Jesus Christ he’s boring. 2 Quote Link to comment
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Krause. Wtf does he actually do? Stealing a wage. 1 Quote Link to comment
bcfcnick Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Kal Naismith was spot-on with his observations. I think he'll make a very good manager after retirement. Just a pity he's not available as I always think we play better with him in the side. He may make the occasional mistake but never shies away from having the ball and trying something positive. As he said today, aside from being slow to react, it looked like players didn't show for the ball or want the ball. 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: sounds broken but most worryingly sounds confused as to how it happened, and also isn’t really making any sense Thought he sounded a bit out of ideas unfortunately. Let's hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment
bexhill reds Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Blaming the players instead of the tactics I picked up on that, referenced learning 3 times…need to learn, want to learn, capable of learning. Nothing like assessing whether your teaching skills are up to it or whether you totally know what you want to teach…. 1 Quote Link to comment
cellist Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 31 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Downsy.. ..More like Clownsy. He will never change or get it will he? Feel he sums up our club in lots of ways Quote Link to comment
chinapig Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, bearded_red said: Jesus Christ he’s boring. Yes but in a very modern, progressive coach sort of way. 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Banjo Red Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 God he is boring, tactics all wrong, mehmeti should be nowhere near the team we are start ing with 10 men every match. If I was Roberts I would be pissed a not fit Pring put in instead of him. Vyner needs dropping as for who comes in I haven't got a clue. Quote Link to comment
robin_unreliant Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Thing is, Naismith is just saying what we can all see. It's knowing the answer to changing it that makes a manager. Not quite as easy as calling out what is wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment
bexhill reds Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, bcfcnick said: Kal Naismith was spot-on with his observations. I think he'll make a very good manager after retirement. Just a pity he's not available as I always think we play better with him in the side. He may make the occasional mistake but never shies away from having the ball and trying something positive. As he said today, aside from being slow to react, it looked like players didn't show for the ball or want the ball. Naismith and King caretaker management duo??? Quote Link to comment
Roger Red Hat Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, bexhill reds said: Naismith and King caretaker management duo??? Just what I was thinking! Time for a 'mutual agreement' for Liam! Quote Link to comment
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Was a fascinating listen…and Kal is someone who is gushing in what he says. Imagine he was a miserable sod! Just very honest. He was saying what he’d be doing in a given situation and what they clearly weren’t. Quote Link to comment
Dr Balls Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, bexhill reds said: I picked up on that, referenced learning 3 times…need to learn, want to learn, capable of learning. Nothing like assessing whether your teaching skills are up to it or whether you totally know what you want to teach…. Yes but when your coach also seems clueless then you might suggest that’s the root of the problem. Always easier to blame others… 1 Quote Link to comment
JP Hampton Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Yes but when your coach also seems clueless then you might suggest that’s the root of the problem. Always easier to blame others… It is often comments about players performance very little about his own part in it. Quote Link to comment
Dr Balls Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, JP Hampton said: It is often comments about players performance very little about his own part in it. Doesn’t that remind you of another young manager who has achieved nothing really of note before he came here but was massively indulged by the owners getting us into a right financial mess in the process? I really hate to say it, but even under LJ it was frequently better than this. Playing players who aren’t fully fit to “rest” players who haven’t played for a well? Even the LJ selection tombola had more sense than that! 1 Quote Link to comment
CityCiderEd Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 20 minutes ago, cellist said: Feel he sums up our club in lots of ways Absolutely bang on,both totally clueless. Quote Link to comment
Graham76 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 24 minutes ago, bcfcnick said: Kal Naismith was spot-on with his observations. I think he'll make a very good manager after retirement. Just a pity he's not available as I always think we play better with him in the side. He may make the occasional mistake but never shies away from having the ball and trying something positive. As he said today, aside from being slow to react, it looked like players didn't show for the ball or want the ball. His analysis was the only decent thing about the game today. Naismith’s honesty was refreshing. He seemed as bemused by the lacklustre display as us fans and he didn’t hold back from criticising Memheti 2 Quote Link to comment
Natchfever Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Manning may have lost the team but it's more JL & BT who have lost the fans, and I expect the club to get a big shock when it comes to ST renewal. I doubt it. People will moan and still renew. I wont (big deal ).. Quote Link to comment
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 I think the most frustrating thing for me is that the fan base and club are back to being divided. Under the previous regime, expectations were managed well, we were gradually progressing and seeing an influx of youngsters come through. It felt relatively solid. Pretty much as solid since Cotterills league winning season. The owners and that tosser Tinnion have ripped it up and that is unforgivable. We are a mess again (already!). 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment
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