Silvio Dante Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/liam-mannings-severnside-derby-press-conference/ Just a few highlights: - Says he didn’t get it right tactically against QPR - Against Sheffield was more around the basics and didn’t see much wrong with the gameplan. Team got too emotional and weren’t controlled - “It makes me laugh because 12 days ago everything was great” - Wouldn’t change any of his processes or the way he works - Thinks he has had to adapt because of the players but didn’t say much specific - Believes prior to the last two games there was only one poor performance out of 20 - Thinks some fatigue from the period just got through - Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch - Delighted with Dickie/Vyner generally and wouldn’t focus on last week - Stokes looking good in training- Murphy some way off and likely to be pre season next year “You’ll need to speak to the medical team” - Naismith in squad, Twine out, James a doubt 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/liam-mannings-severnside-derby-press-conference/ Just a few highlights: - Says he didn’t get it right tactically against QPR - Against Sheffield was more around the basics and didn’t see much wrong with the gameplan. Team got too emotional and weren’t controlled - “It makes me laugh because 12 days ago everything was great” - Wouldn’t change any of his processes or the way he works - Thinks he has had to adapt because of the players but didn’t say much specific - Believes prior to the last two games there was only one poor performance out of 20 - Thinks some fatigue from the period just got through - Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch - Delighted with Dickie/Vyner generally and wouldn’t focus on last week - Stokes looking good in training- Murphy some way off and likely to be pre season next year “You’ll need to speak to the medical team” - Naismith in squad, Twine out, James a doubt Thanks for the summary Silvio. Some of those points makes him look like he is delusional !! 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 (edited) 2 minutes ago, supercidered said: Thanks for the summary Silvio. Some of those points makes him look like he is delusional !! Piercy asked the question on adaptability but I think the answer was skirted over a bit. I think at least there is some awareness re getting it wrong vs QPR but the “1 poor game in 20” and “it makes me laugh” are direct quotes I can’t see going down well. Edited February 29 by Silvio Dante 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee dog Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 So is he suggesting that Murphy is injured when saying ask the medical team, very little information but sounds more than a niggle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 Just now, Toffee dog said: So is he suggesting that Murphy is injured when saying ask the medical team, very little information but sounds more than a niggle? I think it’s more that his fitness level sounds like it’s akin to someone starting couch to 5k from the sounds of it! Not an injury but just seems way below fitness level currently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 “It makes me laugh because 12 days ago everything was great” So he does read OTIB then! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Wouldn’t change any of his processes or the way he works This mindset bothers me. It implies he's right regardless of the outcome. Not encouraging to be as rigid in your approach as he seems to be. Good leaders in any context are open to the possibility that they may be wrong. 7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch He keeps saying this but it comes across as he's doing fine it's the players' fault. These sort of things don't come across to me as 'good behaviours'. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee dog Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I think it’s more that his fitness level sounds like it’s akin to someone starting couch to 5k from the sounds of it! Not an injury but just seems way below fitness level currently Yes that would make sense so fitness side not medical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Stokes has been training with us then? Assumed he wouldn't arrive til the end of the season with Aldershot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, chinapig said: This mindset bothers me. It implies he's right regardless of the outcome. Not encouraging to be as rigid in your approach as he seems to be. Good leaders in any context are open to the possibility that they may be wrong. He did say, when questioned by Piercy , that he has, or will adapt . Says it would be wrong not to. I like Piercy , asks questions I want to know the answer to. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: He did say, when questioned by Piercy , that he has, or will adapt . Says it would be wrong not to. I like Piercy , asks questions I want to know the answer to. Point taken though that seems to contradict him saying he wouldn't change the way he works. There could be a subtle difference I suppose. Agreed on Piercy, he's excellent. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 11 minutes ago, !james said: Stokes has been training with us then? Assumed he wouldn't arrive til the end of the season with Aldershot... I think he's been doing one day a week with us when Aldershot don't have a midweek game. Same with Palmer-Houlden. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 11 minutes ago, !james said: Stokes has been training with us then? Assumed he wouldn't arrive til the end of the season with Aldershot... if you look under the Benarous thread. You’ll see Stokes training. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 25 minutes ago, Toffee dog said: So is he suggesting that Murphy is injured when saying ask the medical team, very little information but sounds more than a niggle? No, it's - "you'll have to ask the medical team how rapidly he's bulking up" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Hampton Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 32 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: - Wouldn’t change any of his processes or the way he works - Thinks he has had to adapt because of the players but didn’t say much specific. - Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch Interesting summations from LM. The third one seems to be a bit of a recurring theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: Point taken though that seems to contradict him saying he wouldn't change the way he works. There could be a subtle difference I suppose. Agreed on Piercy, he's excellent. Wish he’d replace GT. So much to unpack there and thank you @Silvio Dante for the summary. Some seriously concerning statements from Manning for me, particularly the rose tinted view on how things were, not being adaptable and always right and “makes me laugh” comment. He won’t be laughing if we lose against Cardiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Murphy a slight concern maybe. Move didn’t happen in the summer due to medical issues apparently. We obviously kept an interest despite a change in the management set up. Would hope they were thorough in their medical checks this time around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 (edited) In respect of Naismith, here is what I fear could happen. Manning coming under a bit of pressure, possibly can noise but hear all the same. Players who are close to ready he brings back. Perhaps Naismith starts or more likely on the bench Great, but not fully ready, under pressure (or feeling under pressure) to get a result Naismith comes on...and tweaks something. Tweak turns to injury Out for weeks if not months. Edited February 29 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I think he's been doing one day a week with us when Aldershot don't have a midweek game. Same with Palmer-Houlden. What about Bird ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 4 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: He did say, when questioned by Piercy , that he has, or will adapt . Says it would be wrong not to. I like Piercy , asks questions I want to know the answer to. Yes, the processes answer was first and was pretty firm. The adaptability one came after and was a bit more woolly. Agree re Piercy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 7 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: What about Bird ? Not as far as I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: In respect of Naismith, here is what I fear could happen. Manning coming under a bit of pressure, possibly can noise but hear all the same. Players who are close to ready he brings back. Perhaps Naismith starts or more likely on the bench Great, but not fully ready, under pressure (or feeling under pressure) to get a result Naismith comes on...and tweaks something. Tweak turns to injury Out for weeks if not months. I think that scenario would already have happened if it was going to, given that he played for the U21s a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: Yes, the processes answer was first and was pretty firm. The adaptability one came after and was a bit more woolly. Agree re Piercy I hope he meant it , would be madness for anyone so one eyed to try and force something that doesn't fit on good players. I'm ok for him to have a vision and preferred style , but the whole thing is surely about getting the best out of the players you have. I'd say at the moment the system is not getting near the best from of Knight and Conway , hopefully that changes soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Just now, Northern Red said: I think that scenario would already have happened if it was going to, given that he played for the U21s a couple of weeks ago. We'll see. Different intensity in U21 vs first team especially potentially a local derby. I hope he is fit, because a fully fit Naismith could be a real asset..no point in adding decent players if they are hardly ever available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: We'll see. Different intensity in U21 vs first team especially potentially a local derby. I hope he is fit, because a fully fit Naismith could be a real asset..no point in adding decent players if they are hardly ever available! What I mean is that if he was going to rush him when he's not quite there, it would have happened last weekend after the U21 game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: What about Bird ? I guess that's different as a loan to a League Club , he would already be training full time with them 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: What I mean is that if he was going to rush him when he's not quite there, it would have happened last weekend after the U21 game. Oh okay, yeah makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 43 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/interviews/liam-mannings-severnside-derby-press-conference/ Just a few highlights: - Says he didn’t get it right tactically against QPR - Against Sheffield was more around the basics and didn’t see much wrong with the gameplan. Team got too emotional and weren’t controlled - “It makes me laugh because 12 days ago everything was great” - Wouldn’t change any of his processes or the way he works - Thinks he has had to adapt because of the players but didn’t say much specific - Believes prior to the last two games there was only one poor performance out of 20 - Thinks some fatigue from the period just got through - Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch - Delighted with Dickie/Vyner generally and wouldn’t focus on last week - Stokes looking good in training- Murphy some way off and likely to be pre season next year “You’ll need to speak to the medical team” - Naismith in squad, Twine out, James a doubt “Had to adapt because of the players we’ve got” Aka - I can’t play my style because of the squad, and Tinnion & JL sold the fans the dream. @Davefevs @Harry said he’d let it slip in an off the cuff manner, maybe not in the same week though 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 10 minutes ago, petehinton said: “Had to adapt because of the players we’ve got” Aka - I can’t play my style because of the squad, and Tinnion & JL sold the fans the dream. @Davefevs @Harry said he’d let it slip in an off the cuff manner, maybe not in the same week though You could be forgiven for thinking the previous manager was changing things very gradually (too gradually for the hierarchy and some fans) for a reason….. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch Is there an element here of - “I didn’t make it as a pro player so I can’t quite relate to how it translates onto the pitch”? Thats not a criticism, is this where Hoggy helps him? (I want to hear from Hoggy) 13 minutes ago, petehinton said: “Had to adapt because of the players we’ve got” Aka - I can’t play my style because of the squad, and Tinnion & JL sold the fans the dream. @Davefevs @Harry said he’d let it slip in an off the cuff manner, maybe not in the same week though Well, it gives me something to watch for on Saturday…although I did infer we’ve not played what I’d call true Manningball for quite a few games now. Edited February 29 by Davefevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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