Tinnion on SotC

[Kid in the Riot]

Just listened to the start again.

"Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good run in the u-18 youth Cup this season"

So, as a result, Brian explained:

1) It's part of the reason why we can't fill a full bench for the first team; and

2) U-18s are deliberately being held back from progressing into the u-21s so that we can do well in the youth Cup.

So we are sabotaging the first team, u-21s and development of u-18s because on a whim Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good cup run for the u-18s?

I think this is up there with one of the most absurd things I've ever heard come out of the club. 

[ExiledAjax]

3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Just listened to the start again.

"Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good run in the u-18 youth Cup this season"

So, as a result, Brian explained:

1) It's part of the reason why we can't fill a full bench for the first team; and

2) U-18s are deliberately being held back from progressing into the u-21s so that we can do well in the youth Cup.

So we are sabotaging the first team, u-21s and development of u-18s because on a whim Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good cup run for the u-18s?

I think this is up there with one of the most absurd things I've ever heard come out of the club. 

Utterly mental.

Maybe the FA Youth Cup prize is £20m and a place in the Champions League?

Edited March 11 by ExiledAjax

[Superjack]

8 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

After a few hours to review my considered thoughts are

Brian was told/agreed to go on SOTC. 

Brian bless him has a lot of attributes, but dealing with marginally tough questions isn’t one of them, particularly as he is implicated in what ever is going on, on a match day  

Brian was a part of the process to fire Mr Pearson and recommended Mr Manning  

Brian is the fall guy if everything goes bad. 
 

SL noticed the big gaps in the stadium and couldn’t fail but notice the utter shit in front of him and the boos. 
 

Some serious conversations are being had with our coaching staff
 

 

You would hope. 

I'm really not so sure.

[Roe]

The Lies of Brian

[REDOXO]

9 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

I agree, but pearson calling out the lansdowns in public over his contract made his own position untenable, and he clearly would have known that. and im not sure he would consider a move upstairs at that point to be something he would want to bother with, especially if fleming and euell were to be moved on as well.

Tell me where on here people were demanding he went on the radio tonight? Moron

I’m not sure about the term calling out. He said there was no one available at the top of the club and a week or two later he said “if I still have a job” 

Fact is he told it like it was and it was obvious he was on his way. Saying it was that, that cost him his job is bizarre. The way he saw it that decision was already made. 
 

Nevertheless a year or so earlier when he said Jon was entitled to his opinion as Chairman but was wrong is what got under juniors skin!

[Superjack]

19 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I also said this a few months ago - would mean Pearson can take a step back given his health issues but still provide his experience and gravitas.

I also think he’d be able to fulfil such a role without stepping on Manning’s toes. Lots of others would be too egotistical.

Such a shame an arrangement that would likely be much better than the current setup would never be a possibility under such a weak board.

No. 

Because he questioned them.

Not allowed. 

Not under a dictatorship.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

13 minutes ago, 38MC said:

I think that roller has failed it’s MOT mate 

I

Edited March 11 by Marina's Rolls Royce

[ohhhshauntaylor]

That couldn’t have gone any worse. 

Sadly, at some point, they’ve decided that BT is the best man for that interview, which tells you everything you need to know. 

[Simon bristol]

1 minute ago, REDOXO said:

After a few hours to review my considered thoughts are

Brian was told/agreed to go on SOTC. 

Brian bless him has a lot of attributes, but dealing with marginally tough questions isn’t one of them, particularly as he is implicated in what ever is going on, on a match day  

Brian was a part of the process to fire Mr Pearson and recommended Mr Manning  

Brian is the fall guy if everything goes bad. 
 

SL noticed the big gaps in the stadium and couldn’t fail but notice the utter shit in front of him and the boos. 
 

Some serious conversations are being had with our coaching staff
 

 

Brian is the latest fall guy, theres been 20 odd years of crap decisions and appointments before tinnion got that role, and there will be a lot more shoddy decisions still to come if he loses that role. Hes being blamed for wanting to be better next season, and blamed for wanting the youth team to win the youth cup in this thread! I think it his fault twine got injured, and for scott being sold and lansdown not releasing some of the funds for the striker we all knew we needed too.

[Superjack]

Just now, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

It didn't take me long ( 2 minutes)

YOU SAID:

"In what way is he better? How far as a club in footballing terms have we moved on since he came to power? We have had infrastructure investment for sure, name me a club, fewers aside, who haven't refurbed their ground, training centre or moved to a new facility since then? You talk about SL making a massive mistake with sacking Pearson in isolation, but it's not. He's made a bucket load of mistakes throughout..."

 

Isn't it funny how some people want to be populist and pretend they always were with Nigeywigey?

You are really not doing yourself any favours with your new buzzword. 

[cotswoldred2]

6 hours ago, lenred said:

Will we be able to ask him questions does anyone know?

Ha do me a favour despite all the anger and hot air on here...given the opportunity to ask difficult questions face to face they choke. happened at the 3 Lions but on here it's toxic. 

 

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, ohhhshauntaylor said:

That couldn’t have gone any worse. 

Sadly, at some point, they’ve decided that BT is the best man for that interview, which tells you everything you need to know. 

Probably because it was him or the chairman.

[38MC]

2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

It didn't take me long ( 2 minutes)

YOU SAID:

"In what way is he better? How far as a club in footballing terms have we moved on since he came to power? We have had infrastructure investment for sure, name me a club, fewers aside, who haven't refurbed their ground, training centre or moved to a new facility since then? You talk about SL making a massive mistake with sacking Pearson in isolation, but it's not. He's made a bucket load of mistakes throughout..."

 

Isn't it funny how some people want to be populist and pretend they always were with Nigeywigey?

Yeah you failed your mot mate. Tell me at any point that was anti nige rather than anti SL? I actually mention sacking Pearson was a massive mistake - not to be taken in isolation. Thanks for proving me to be nigeywigey though 

Edited March 11 by 38MC

[cidercity1987]

There's less fake news and revisionism coming out of Russia than Bristol Sport at the moment

My feelings toward SL, JL and Tinnion are bordering on hatred , the absolute incompetence from all three of them

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

1 minute ago, 38MC said:

Yeah you failed your mot mate. Tell me at any point that was anti nige rather than anti SL?

Well done- it's essential that you are

[Kid in the Riot]

6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Utterly mental.

Maybe the FA Youth Cup prize is £20m and a place in the Champions League?

Tinnion then went on to say how great it was that the plan had clearly worked as the u-18s were in the semi finals. As if it's some sort of stroke of genius to screw your first team and development squads up at the expense of the u-18s.

The hubris is excruciating.

[Barrs Court Red]

9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Just listened to the start again.

"Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good run in the u-18 youth Cup this season"

So, as a result, Brian explained:

1) It's part of the reason why we can't fill a full bench for the first team; and

2) U-18s are deliberately being held back from progressing into the u-21s so that we can do well in the youth Cup.

So we are sabotaging the first team, u-21s and development of u-18s because on a whim Steve and Jon decided they wanted a good cup run for the u-18s?

I think this is up there with one of the most absurd things I've ever heard come out of the club. 

I’m hoping it’s all part of the plan to make the club more marketable.

”Our under18s won the youth cup, loads of gems to turn into real value for your investment” 

Because if it’s just because they just wanted to win an u18s trophy in isolation, that’s the most bonkers thing I’ve ever heard. 

[Simon bristol]

4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

I’m not sure about the term calling out. He said there was no one available at the top of the club and a week or two later he said “if I still have a job” 

Fact is he told it like it was and it was obvious he was on his way. Saying it was that, that cost him his job is bizarre. The way he saw it that decision was already made. 
 

Nevertheless a year or so earlier when he said Jon was entitled to his opinion as Chairman but was wrong is what got under juniors skin!

Certainly, all of these were reasons why he wasnt going to be moved upstairs to allow manning to come in underneath him.

[REDOXO]

1 minute ago, Simon bristol said:

Brian is the latest fall guy, theres been 20 odd years of crap decisions and appointments before tinnion got that role, and there will be a lot more shoddy decisions still to come if he loses that role. Hes being blamed for wanting to be better next season, and blamed for wanting the youth team to win the youth cup in this thread! I think it his fault twine got injured, and for scott being sold and lansdown not releasing some of the funds for the striker we all knew we needed too.

Tinman as manager was one of those crap decisions Tinman is Director of Football was another. 
 

We all want to be better next season, so they sacked the manager in the most bizarre circumstances out and out lying and Brian was a big part of that. 
 

We all want to win the youth cup too, but it seems completely lost that Pearson was having to play those players because he had no one else and one of the last straws was Brian criticizing Pearson for playing Andy King before one of the youth team. 
 

Mr Lansdown is releasing funds to Mr Manning but didn’t to Nigel Pearson. What does all of that tell you?

 

[REDOXO]

8 minutes ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Ha do me a favour despite all the anger and hot air on here...given the opportunity to ask difficult questions face to face they choke. happened at the 3 Lions but on here it's toxic. 

 

You normally talk utter nonsense. However you are spot on there!

[Simon bristol]

4 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Tinnion then went on to say how great it was that the plan had clearly worked as the u-18s were in the semi finals. As if it's some sort of stroke of genius to screw your first team and development squads up at the expense of the u-18s.

The hubris is excruciating.

Do you not want the under 18s to win the youth cup? Id quite like to see that personally.

[Red Billy]

12 minutes ago, Roe said:

The Lies of Brian

Always look on the bright side of life

[RollsRoyce]

I am not even sure where you start with an interview like that, but I have a good idea of where you end.

There is a very evident, and growing divide between the club and the fanbase. Any possibility of success will be driven by a unity of purpose and belief. But here we are with a club led by people who continually lie, and also seemingly have confused politics with sport. The lobbying, random posing on forums, offline briefing of local media and interviews like this demonstrate that they think you can detach the evidence and underlying mood with empty words. As if by saying something continually, it will become true, despite all of the evidence pointing in a different direction.

The club has created one of the most astonishing masterclasses in self-destruction. They have indeed lost the fan base, primarily because of the lack of transparency and continued lies. That destroys trust. But worse than that, there is no real anger. It is even more catastrophic, apathy prevails. The reason for that is possibly because people know there is nothing that can be done. The club is priced out of new ownership, and as such, we are currently hostages to the owner's whim. This is a real shame, because the owner most certainly would want what any fan would want, but over 2 decades the continued lack of any semblance of a strategy, changes in direction, and continued reluctance to employ competent people means we are now looking at regression. 

So here we are, we now have to watch the soap opera of Tinnion, Manning and Jon L play out until the cost of relegation becomes a real reality again. But we have been here on so many occasions.

The club is crying out for high quality professional leadership. It is now getting embarrassing for the owner. 

[Simon bristol]

2 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Tinman as manager was one of those crap decisions Tinman is Director of Football was another. 
 

We all want to be better next season, so they sacked the manager in the most bizarre circumstances out and out lying and Brian was a big part of that. 
 

We all want to win the youth cup too, but it seems completely lost that Pearson was having to play those players because he had no one else and one of the last straws was Brian criticizing Pearson for playing Andy King before one of the youth team. 
 

Mr Lansdown is releasing funds to Mr Manning but didn’t to Nigel Pearson. What does all of that tell you?

 

It tells me he didnt want pearson around because pearson knew they were full of shit, and lansdown didnt want him spending more money on his own players.

[38MC]

4 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

Do you not want the under 18s to win the youth cup? Id quite like to see that personally.

Innit mate. We shouldn’t have brought Alex Scott through so fast and we could have won that a few years back 

Edited March 11 by 38MC

[REDOXO]

Just now, Simon bristol said:

It tells me he didnt want pearson around because pearson knew they were full of shit, and lansdown didnt want him spending more money on his own players.

Perfect! 
 

Just missed the bits regarding Brian’s input and that junior was the driver and probably the Lansdown to which you refer.
 

But Exactly

[Robbored]

1 minute ago, Simon bristol said:

It tells me he didnt want pearson around because pearson knew they were full of shit, and lansdown didnt want him spending more money on his own players.

How do surmise that from BTs interview on SotC? 

[phantom]

8 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

I’m hoping it’s all part of the plan to make the club more marketable.

”Our under18s won the youth cup, loads of gems to turn into real value for your investment” 

Because if it’s just because they just wanted to win an u18s trophy in isolation, that’s the most bonkers thing I’ve ever heard. 

After the recent additional revenue from the sale of the retro shirts I expect someone has seen an opportunity to release a "one off" U18 FA Cup final shirt and with the game being played at AG8 if we make the final the powers that be are chasing the pound signs again 

I expect a new set of crayons are being opened as we breathe 

3 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

Do you not want the under 18s to win the youth cup? Id quite like to see that personally.

I'm not sure anyone would actually want their U18 side to be successful at the cost of the U23s and senior side, and then that's before individual player progression has been impacted too 

[Superjack]

9 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Tinman as manager was one of those crap decisions Tinman is Director of Football was another. 
 

We all want to be better next season, so they sacked the manager in the most bizarre circumstances out and out lying and Brian was a big part of that. 
 

We all want to win the youth cup too, but it seems completely lost that Pearson was having to play those players because he had no one else and one of the last straws was Brian criticizing Pearson for playing Andy King before one of the youth team. 
 

Mr Lansdown is releasing funds to Mr Manning but didn’t to Nigel Pearson. What does all of that tell you?

 

[Robbored]

12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Tinnion then went on to say how great it was that the plan had clearly worked as the u-18s were in the semi finals. As if it's some sort of stroke of genius to screw your first team and development squads up at the expense of the u-18s.

The hubris is excruciating.

Jeez………….