Cityboy1954 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 On 03/04/2024 at 10:08, oldstandrobin said: Once upon a time in my day it was all about going to a game and gazing in awe as your local chairman, ie for us the late and loved Harry Dolman, swept into the car park in his RR, cigar alight and breezed into the directors entrance, getting your Bovril in the East End and watching Big John's Brylcreem slip another past the opposing keeper. Now you have to have a degree in Accountancy to compete on a fans forum. Happy Days now long gone . What lengths theyl go to to promote leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said: What lengths theyl go to to promote leeds To be fair, Leeds, Southampton as compliant parties.... ...Ipswich are also compliant but how- how- can we back Promotion of a side with Mark Ashton as CEO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Come on Plymouth too. Sides who play fast and loose deserve to miss promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Come on Plymouth too. Sides who play fast and loose deserve to miss promotion. NOOO, it'll let Brent's club in ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I've just seen on SSN that the EFL will not deduct Leicester points this season, but they will be liable to a deduction next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, 22A said: I've just seen on SSN that the EFL will not deduct Leicester points this season, but they will be liable to a deduction next season. That is pertaining to the PL I believe. EFL in-season, I think the League might go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 19 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: NOOO, it'll let Brent's club in ! Such dilemmas...was thinking Leeds and Southampton somehow get top 2 then someone..Coventry maybe win Playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Argyle one up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Argyle one up Class finish that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: EFL in-season, I think the League might go again. But they can't. The CFRP have already decided that Leicester City cannot be sanctioned in 2023/24 for 2023/24 FFP failure. The EFL themselves have confirmed that they cannot sanction Leicester City for a 2022/23 FFP failure as there are no EFL regulations that allow them to do so. Incredibly damaging to the reputation of the EFL and the CFRU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Hxj said: But they can't. The CFRP have already decided that Leicester City cannot be sanctioned in 2023/24 for 2023/24 FFP failure. The EFL themselves have confirmed that they cannot sanction Leicester City for a 2022/23 FFP failure as there are no EFL regulations that allow them to do so. Incredibly damaging to the reputation of the EFL and the CFRU. That wasn't entirely my reading of it. Case 1.. The dispute over T. Leicester deservedly won that. No Business Plan. Rightly as T is this season not 2022-23, don't know how the Case 2. EFL wanted in conjunction with PL to get points docked this year for the Period ending 2022-23. I'd say this merely provided some clarity. A problem comes with the Embargo being slapped on under 2.10.1, as 2.10.3 says that a forecast P&S overspend to this year needs the Embargo and to be referred to the CFRP. Case 1 was damaging but I still rate the EFL and their pursuit of FFP wrongdoing. Edited April 12 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Anyone would think Leicester are deliberately trying to throw away promotion to avoid a points deduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: Anyone would think Leicester are deliberately trying to throw away promotion to avoid a points deduction. Except staying down, would also see them run aground, possibly with Points but certainly shrinking Headroom and EFL Embargoes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: 2.10.3 says that a forecast P&S overspend to this year needs the Embargo and to be referred to the CFRP And if Leicester City are not forecasting an overspend? (Regardless of the reason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Hxj said: And if Leicester City are not forecasting an overspend? (Regardless of the reason) Maybe they have stated x and the League y, but the League shouldn't be slapping an Embargo on if they haven't forecast an overspend through permissible mean a. Happy to concede that point. If they haven't submitted Accounts they would be Embargoed for that, and if they hadn't submitted P&S Returns they'd be Embargoed for that. Maybe they submitted compliant with say KDH sold by end of June, or they submitted compliant with an impermissible method ie Training Ground sale and or leaseback. The former could lead to an Embargo, the latter definitely is impermissible. Edited April 12 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Some Leicester fans think they should sell their Training Ground or 2nd Training Ground to try and resolve FFP.. ..Problem is they haven't read the Rules correctly clearly. Chelsea and their hotel sale, well that is a nonsense but there appears to be no express Rule against it as in nothing specifically about Fixed Assets in the PL. EFL Rules- yes, Seagrave profit would not count. Likewise King Power Stadium, other Training Ground or that of any other Tangible Fixed Asset. It is adjusted out and treated as if it didn't occur in the EFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 1.1.4 a), b) The Guidance explains it as well as the Shares point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 What do we think this bit means? Interim Relief us dismissed so presumably the Embargo remains at present and the Claim is what exactly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Presumably they wanted the Embargo thrown out or suspended and the Hearing put on hold for Interim Relief. They can't be docked points for the PL offence in this League although there is now a rule about passing it between the Leagues for Aligned Rule Disciplinary Issues of the Leagues agree and if timing is correct. The argument about the Embargo feels moot, the bit about unlawfully passing comfiential info between Leagues also feels moot as there is a Rule that permits it..as opposed to providing to the CFRU on a confidential basis. I still think they should go for Leicester again this year owing to Rule 2.10.1 feeding into Rule 2.10.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 I expect Leicester (10) and Man City(2) to have points deducted at the start of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted yesterday at 16:01 Report Share Posted yesterday at 16:01 (edited) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13362035/Leicester-sign-players-summer-transfer-EFL-Premier-League.html Why it should he lifted prior to Jien 30th is still unclear.. How it fits into the bit about the Arbitration should continue without undue delay and the EFL bit in the end of their Statement is also unclear. Edited yesterday at 16:02 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted yesterday at 16:04 Report Share Posted yesterday at 16:04 As I stated before, Rule 2.10.1 can be interpreted as being the real time period to the existing season...EFL should have tried to push this to the CFRP possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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