Steve Watts Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 On 05/04/2024 at 08:10, 22A said: It appears City signed the wrong Palmer. Meanwhile is Cole related to Carlton Palmer, who according to some papers, was the worst player to ever play for England. He is. He's the illegitimate lovechild of Andy Cole and Carlton Palmer. On 06/04/2024 at 14:01, ChippenhamRed said: How on earth anyone has time to watch six games plus City in one weekend is absolutely beyond me. The extra 6 games are therapy after an afternoon watching Manningball.... He's a quality player and should be in the England team. Unfortunately Southgate seemed to like his comfortable pairs of slippers so I would expect him to be used sparingly... As an aside, the penalty incident was embarrassing last night, but fair play to Palmer for shrugging it of and calmly slotting it away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 Palmer is a form, confident player and should be in the mix. Looks from the outside like a cool headed type which bodes well for the big summer occasion. Meanwhile, every time I see Pickford he looks like someone who has had way too many espresso coffees before the game. A top keeper no doubt but he looks stressed on TV and whilst I like a keeper who barks out helpful shouts to his defence I worry a bit that he is too much on the edge during a difficult club season. As for the 'it's my ball' penalty argument, what a farce. Like a bunch of 7 year olds, hence they should be treated as such. No hot chocolate for them before bedtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 not gonna happen is it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 9 minutes ago, Super said: not gonna happen is it? If you look at it from the point of view of England's opponents, I don't think they would look forward to playing against that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 19 minutes ago, Super said: not gonna happen is it? To then have Mainoo as another option is insane. Watkins isn't a bad back up to Kane either, albeit not done anything great for England yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 26 minutes ago, Super said: not gonna happen is it? Here's a question... How many hat-tricks does that front 6 have this season? Maybe as many as 8?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted April 16 Admin Report Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, mozo said: Here's a question... How many hat-tricks does that front 6 have this season? Maybe as many as 8?!! Kane 4 Palmer 2 Foden 2 None for the other three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ian M said: Kane 4 Palmer 2 Foden 2 None for the other three. That's a lot! I thought Bellingham had one early in the season, but maybe not Edit: from a Google search, he didn't Edited April 16 by mozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 55 minutes ago, mozo said: That's a lot! I thought Bellingham had one early in the season, but maybe not Edit: from a Google search, he didn't Think he got 2 in a few games Barca away being one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, mozo said: Here's a question... How many hat-tricks does that front 6 have this season? Maybe as many as 8?!! How many trophies have they won so far this season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 16 minutes ago, Selred said: How many trophies have they won so far this season? How many are in the Champions League semi finals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 27 minutes ago, mozo said: How many are in the Champions League semi finals? 0. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 There is not a chance Southgate is dropping Saka, which likely means Palmer on the bench. Bellingham at 10 is a shoo-in. Nice problems to have ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 16 Report Share Posted April 16 19 hours ago, NewquayRed said: In some respects I agree on both accounts but, Pickford is nailed on under Southgate and I’m not convinced the manager fancy’s Cole as part of this group for this Euros, and to be honest I kinda get that. You may well be right. Leaving the Premier Leagues joined leading scorer (from midfield) at home would be very England. They left Atyeo at home in 58 after he scored the goal that got them there. That worked out well! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 (edited) 21 hours ago, Super said: not gonna happen is it? Have we learned nothing from trying to shoehorn Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes into a side? Edited April 17 by KegCity 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 42 minutes ago, KegCity said: Have we learned nothing from trying to shoehorn Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes into a side? Maybe not, but these days we can have five subs and really change, or further strengthen the state of play. What a great position to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 On 15/04/2024 at 20:32, DolmanGaz said: I wish Southgate would at least try in one friendly palmer, saka and foden behind Kane with Bellingham next to rice. Lose a bit dropping Bellingham back but gain so much more with palmer on the field instead of another DM... I could be wrong, but I don't think there's been an occasion they've all been fit - certainly not since Palmer has burst on the scene. I don't think we do lose much dropping Bellingham back because he's also a brilliant ball carrier. And any argument debating that should also acknowledge that Rice has been playing higher for Arsenal quite often with Jorginho sitting deeper so you could argue we lose a bit with Rice by playing him CDM. On 15/04/2024 at 21:02, Bris Red said: Agreed he is such a talent. In forward areas we are as strong as any nation in the world at the monent especially with the depth of talent we have. It's defensively i worry and on tonights showing Pickford is not a goalkeeper that should fill us with any confidence going into a major tournament.. Probably a good job we don't judge players on one game then. I think it's mad the criticism Pickford gets (albeit I didn't see Monday's game) He's never let England down at a major tournament and don't forget he's probably the hero of Euro 2020 (21) if Saka puts his penalty in. 2 saves in a major final penalty shoot out! As for this season he has the second highest clean sheets this season in the Prem and second or third for save percentage too I think. Everton have conceded the 4th lowest goals this season. There's no better option than Pickford at the minute, and he's the least of our concerns in that back 5. I think on current form and injuries our front 6 should be the following : Rice Bellingham (not necessarily a flat 2) Saka Foden Palmer Kane But, to counter the point about players playing out of position they need to be given the freedom they clearly had against Belgium to inter-change. Foden and Bellingham seemed to be given free roles and we need to do that and trust their ability. Defence is questionable at the moment, needs to be decided closer to time and hope we have no further injuries. Think left back is the main concern 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 28 minutes ago, MarcusX said: I could be wrong, but I don't think there's been an occasion they've all been fit - certainly not since Palmer has burst on the scene. I don't think we do lose much dropping Bellingham back because he's also a brilliant ball carrier. And any argument debating that should also acknowledge that Rice has been playing higher for Arsenal quite often with Jorginho sitting deeper so you could argue we lose a bit with Rice by playing him CDM. Probably a good job we don't judge players on one game then. I think it's mad the criticism Pickford gets (albeit I didn't see Monday's game) He's never let England down at a major tournament and don't forget he's probably the hero of Euro 2020 (21) if Saka puts his penalty in. 2 saves in a major final penalty shoot out! As for this season he has the second highest clean sheets this season in the Prem and second or third for save percentage too I think. Everton have conceded the 4th lowest goals this season. There's no better option than Pickford at the minute, and he's the least of our concerns in that back 5. I think on current form and injuries our front 6 should be the following : Rice Bellingham (not necessarily a flat 2) Saka Foden Palmer Kane But, to counter the point about players playing out of position they need to be given the freedom they clearly had against Belgium to inter-change. Foden and Bellingham seemed to be given free roles and we need to do that and trust their ability. Defence is questionable at the moment, needs to be decided closer to time and hope we have no further injuries. Think left back is the main concern Would you pick Rashford? He seems to be a real Southgate favourite - but, imo, hasn't justified being anywhere near consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.