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Just spoke with a Norwich fan through work. He thought it will be tough but they are playing well at present. We’ve similar recent form.  I think, if Norwich start well, they could well find us in holiday mode tomorrow… but you never know. 

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40 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

On 20th April 1976 we were promoted to the top flight after an absence of 65 years. I remember it being a humid evening at Ashton Gate, with City needing a win against already relegated Portsmouth, managed by Ian St. John.

Clive Whitehead scored in the third minute in front of the open end (now the Atyeo Stand), but it was a nerve jangling 87 minutes to follow, especially in the second half when Geoff Merrick's sliced clearance nearly ended up in his own net.

27,000 fans went bonkers at the final whistle, there was a huge pitch invasion and City management and players took their bow in the directors' box. Alan Dicks ended up fully clothed in the players' bath, and the sports page headlines in the next day's Sun read "Splash! Bristol jump back".

The two games before the Pompey game had seen City at home to Chelsea, drawing 2-2 in front of 26,000, and most surprisingly a 0-0 draw at Eastville against the Rovers, watched by a now unbelievable 26,400!

What are your memories of that evening 48 years ago?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk8VE4BrlqU

Norwich are still hoping to secure a play-off place and are currently 6th so will be well up for this. They have three matches to secure their spot in the play-offs, as they lead seventh-placed Hull by six points but with the Tigers having played one game less.

The game pitches together the division’s two best teams over the last five games; City have taken 11 points and scored eight goals, conceding once, during that time whereas Norwich have 10 points with seven for and six against.

Fan’s view

Few saw operation play-offs coming in late 2023.

‘What a weird old season this has turned into. And not just because Norwich City have gone from something the dog passed to genuine promotion contenders in the space of four months.

The Carrow Road crowd has also done a full 180 – transforming themselves into Portsmouth’s finest (a Delia joke) when, for the first half of the season, our spiritual home was the place to go on a Saturday afternoon if you needed some quiet time.

(It’s only fair to point out that those who follow City on their travels have been admirably steadfast throughout).

But it doesn’t end there. In November, David Wagner – nice chap that he is – was, in a footballing sense, Norfolk’s public enemy number one.

Even some of those for whom the cup is usually half-full had to reluctantly admit that his useful life at Carrow Road appeared to be nearing its end. At the time the debate was around who would pull the trigger and when. There appeared to be no 'if'.

But here we are, four months hence and Wagner’s star is rising. While he still may not be everyone’s vision of a Norwich City head coach of the future, in the here and now he’s earned the respect of just about everyone of a yellow and green hue for what has happened in 2024. That, in doing so, he’s recently overseen a win over Ipswich certainly did his street cred no harm.

And there’s more. All of the angst around our majority owners and their questionable ability to run the club has been shelved for the time being. Even their most vociferous critics have put on hold their gripes and concerns while a promotion charge is ongoing. Delia’s “20 per cent of our fanbase are whingers” rant has also been temporarily overlooked.

All of these positives are, of course, related. Little would have changed without the transformation on the pitch but, as things stand, we are all currently in the grip of operation play-offs. An 'operation' that's been a while coming.

Not since back in 2001-02 – when we sneaked into the play-offs and lost in the final to Birmingham (in Cardiff) – have we been in this position. Since then, it’s been either automatic promotion, just missing out on the automatics, or missing out on the top-six altogether by some considerable margin.

This is different. From being outsiders for the top-six, this good run has gradually hauled us into the play-off picture and, thanks to all of the above, we’ve stayed there… so far.

There is still work to be done, but even if we somehow conspire to miss out, few expected this season to still be ‘alive’ when we reached game 46. And it will be.

Like I said, weird old times.’

On the first Sunday of December at Ashton Gate we witnessed a very poor game with us conspiring to throw away a one goal lead, thanks to Knight’s first league goal for us, with George Tanner putting through his own goal and then Norwich stealing a winner in the 94th minute. Highlights: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/video/highlights/highlights-bristol-city-1-2-norwich-city/

Guide to Carrow Road: https://footballgroundguide.com/leagues/england/championship/carrow-road-norwich-city.html

PotD is available, https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/pay-on-the-day-at-carrow-road-2/

Their forum: https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/156283-bristol-city-saturday/

Match preview: https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/norwich-city/championship-promotion-race/preview/preview-norwich-vs-bristol-city-prediction-team-news-lineups_541569.html

LM grew up in Norwich. Here he is with Mark Sykes, pre the game: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/manning-and-sykes-preview-canaries-trip/

Rob Dickie is expected to be in the squad, https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-receive-timely-injury-9224257

Their manager David Wagner grew up in West Germany. He made his professional debut with Eintracht Frankfurt in 1990 and played as a striker for several clubs in the first and second division of German football. Son of an American stepfather and German mother, Wagner played for the United States national team, earning eight caps from 1996 until 1998.

From 2011 to 2015 Wagner managed Borussia Dortmund II. In November 2015 he took the manager's position at Huddersfield Town, whom he led to the Premier League via the 2017 EFL Championship play-off final. He left Huddersfield in January 2019, and then had brief spells at Bundesliga club Schalke 04 and Swiss Super League club Young Boys.

Their nine most successful managers: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/norwich-citys-best-managers-in-order-of-games-won-ranked/

In this fixture last season they came out on top, https://youtu.be/-ibCyMnAw6I

Interesting Radio 4 food programme looking at Delia’s impact on food at NCFC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001jbx9

Head-to-head record

Won: 21

Lost: 39

Drawn:18

They lay claim to the oldest football chant in the world - On the ball, City! Which is 121 years old. 

Talking of ages https://www.onthisday.com/people/adolf-hitler Hitler was born on 20 April.

Officials

Referee: Sam Barrott

Assistants: Jonathan Hunt and Greg Read

Fourth official: Ollie Yates

Defender Dimitris Giannoulis is out having picked up a hamstring injury last month.

In March Ashley Barnes was banned indefinitely from attending horse racing meetings in the UK. Barnes, 34, was placed on the British Horseracing Authority's excluded list because he did not co-operate with an ongoing BHA investigation.

Norwich nonsense

From Medieval times right through to the Early Modern Age, Norwich was second only to the capital in terms of population. Immigrants came from all around to partake in the city’s wool trade and weaving industry.

NORWICH IS THE ONLY ENGLISH CITY LOCATED IN A NATIONAL PARK. The Norfolk Broads is designated an Area of Outstanding Beauty – all 125 miles of navigable lock-free waterways, beautiful countryside and picturesque towns, villages and cities. It’s also mentioned in David Bowie’s hit song Life on Mars.

NORWICH WAS FIRST TO BE PEDESTRIANISED. The city had the first-ever pedestrianised street back in July 1967. At the time giving people priority over traffic was a bit of novelty – so ubiquitous and much-loved had the car become – but other cities caught on to the benefits of restricting traffic and well, the rest is history really…

Pubs ++++ Back in the day (or rather the 17th century), Norwich had 600 pubs. But the 1904 Licensing Act, Second World War and slum clearances in the 1960s saw many forced to close. King Street was the worst hit, with the number of pubs there falling from 58 to one. And the name of that one pub? It’s the Last Pub Standing, of course…

 NORWICH CITY FC’S CLUB SONG IS OLDEST IN UK. Today’s footie fans still sing the song ‘On the Ball City’ at Carrow Road Stadium today. It was written for another team in Norwich back in 1890 before the city’s football team claimed it in 1902.

ALAN PARTRIDGE IS FROM NORWICH. OK, the self-promoting Alan Partridge may be a fictional character, but his creator Steve Coogan is real enough. Partridge is a DJ on Radio Norwich in the series, spouting his ‘words of wisdom’ to the city’s general population.

COLMAN’S MUSTARD IS FROM THE CITY. Jeremiah James Colman started producing mustard at his factory back in 1814 and it’s been going strong ever since. Some of today’s farmers who supply the mustard seeds for the condiment are fifth generation of the original family suppliers.

NORWICH HAD THE FIRST-EVER POSTCODES. Yep, today there are more than 1.8 million postcodes in the UK – every street has one. But, at one time, only streets in Norwich were recalled by a series of letters and numbers. That’s because the GP decided to trial it here back in 1959. Looks like it proved successful then.

SALE OF THE CENTURY WAS FROM NORWICH. One of the most popular programmes on TV from 1971 to 1983, Sale of the Century began every show with “And now, from Norwich, it’s the quiz of the week!” Quizmaster was Nicholas Parsons. It had the same kudos as today’s The Chase with Bradley Walsh.

Pubs

There is no designated away team pub in Norwich. This is due to one too many issues of damage being caused to the Compleat Angler that means they no longer accept away fans. Furthermore alcohol is not served in the stadium to away fans. Sometimes the Waterfront pub or Stadia (both close to the ground) permit away fans but this is very hit and miss. Places to consider are:

The Wildman, 29 Bedford Street, Norwich, NR2 1AG, https://www.wildmannorwich.co.uk

Prince of Wales, 8-14 Prince of Wales Road, Norwich, NR1 1LB, http://www.inapub.co.uk/venues/the-prince-of-wales/norwich/nr11lb/1937

The Coach and Horses, 82 Thorpe Road, Norwich, NR1 1BA, https://www.facebook.com/thecoachthorperoad and http://www.thecoachthorperoad.co.uk

Light and airy tap for Chalk Hill brewery (tours available) with eight own brews plus guests, food from baguettes up including lunch deals, Sat brunch and imaginative weekly specials, friendly staff, L-shaped bare-boards bar with open fire, pleasant back dining area; sports TVs, gets very busy on home match days; disabled access possible (not to lavatories), front terrace, open all day.

Revado Hotel, Restaurant and Bar, 2 Stracey Road, Norwich, NR1 1EZ, https://revadohotels.com

The Rose Inn, 235 Queens Road, Norwich, NR1 3AE, https://www.facebook.com/RoseInnNR1/

Adam and Eve, https://m.facebook.com/theadamandevenorwich/?locale2=en_GB 17 Bishopgate, NR3 1RZ Norwich (a 25 minute walk from the ground)

The oldest pub in Norwich dating from at least 1240 when used by workmen building the cathedral, has a Saxon well beneath the lower bar floor and striking Dutch gables (added in 14th and 15th c); old-fashioned small bars with tiled or parquet floors, cushioned benches built into partly panelled walls and some antique high-backed settles, well kept ales such as Adnams and Wolf, Aspall's cider and around 40 malt whiskies, traditional pubby food (not Sun evening) from baguettes up, friendly service; background music; children allowed in snug till 7pm, no dogs inside, picnic-sets out among pretty tubs and hanging baskets, open all day.

Duke of Wellington, http://www.dukeofwellingtonnorwich.co.uk

91-93 Waterloo Road, Norwich, NR3 1EG (8 minute drive from the ground)

Rambling corner local with huge range of well kept quickly changing ales including Fullers, Oakham and Wolf, many served from tap room casks, foreign bottled beers too, no food apart from sausage rolls and pies (can bring your own, cutlery is provided) and weekend summer barbecue, real fire; live music and traditional games; well behaved dogs welcome, small back terrace, open all day.

Edith Cavell, https://www.stonegatepubpartners.co.uk/run-a-pub/pubs/Pages/edith-cavell-norwich.aspx 7 Tombland, Norwich, NR3 1HF (6 minute drive to the ground)

Corner pub-restaurant named after the gallant World War I Norfolk nurse; popular if not especially cheap food with emphasis on steaks cooked on hot rocks, three real ales including a house beer from Wolf, friendly helpful service, smallish bar, upstairs restaurant (and loos); diagonally across from Erpingham Gate leading into cathedral green, open all day (till 1am Fri, Sat).

Fat Cat, https://www.fatcatpub.co.uk 49 West End Street, Norwich, NR24NA (10 minute drive from the ground)

Heaven for real ale lovers, this cheerful town pub lies tucked away in a residential area just west of the city centre. With bare floor boards throughout, the no-nonsense furnishings include plain pine tables and simple solid seats, lots of brewery memorabilia, bric-a-brac and stained glass; board games. The knowledgeable Mr Keatley and his hospitable staff can help guide you through the extraordinary choice of 32 perfectly kept and quickly changing beers. On handpump or tapped from the cask in a stillroom behind the bar ' big windows reveal all ' are their own beers (Fat Cat Bitter, Honey Ale, IPA, Marmalade Cat, Tom Cat and Wild Cat), as well as guests such as Adnams Mosaic, Crouch Vale Yakima Gold, Dark Star American Pale Ale, Fullers ESB, Green Jack Mahseer, Greene King Abbot, Oakham Bishops Farewell and Citra and Timothy Taylors Landlord ' and many more choices from across the country. You'll also find 15 draught lagers and craft ales, over 20 international bottled beers, ten malt whiskies, ten rums and 22 ciders and perries. There are pavement tables outside. No children under the age of 16.

Kings Head, http://www.kingsheadnorwich.com 42 Magdalen Street, Norwich, NR31JE (7 minute drive from the ground)

Traditional Victorian local with good friendly atmosphere in two simply furnished bare-boards bars (front one is tiny), up to 14 very well kept changing regional ales, good choice of imported beers and a local cider, no food except pork pies; bar billiards in back bar; dogs welcome, open all day until late.

Plough, https://www.grainpubs.co.uk 58 St Benedicts St, Norwich NR2 4AR (9 minute drive from the ground)

Small city-centre pub owned by Grain, their ales and guests kept well, good wines and cocktails, food limited to sausage pie, cheeseboards and summer barbecues, simply updated split-level interior with bare boards and open fire; background music, occasional DJ; good spacious beer garden behind, open all day.

The Ribs of Beef, https://ribsofbeef.co.uk 24 Wensum St, Norwich NR3 1HY (7 minute drive to the ground)

Comfortable and welcoming riverside pub; nine real ales including Oakham, two traditional ciders and good wine choice, generous well priced food such as burgers and wings, roasts on Sun (no food Sun evening), quick cheerful service, traditional carpeted bar with river views, smaller downstairs room; live music Sun, quiz every other Thurs, sports TV; children welcome, limited seats outside on narrow waterside terrace, open all day.

St Andrew’s Brew House, https://www.standrewsbrewhouse.com 41 St Andrews St, Norwich NR2 4TP (7 minute drive from the ground)

Interesting place visibly brewing its own good beers (can tour the brewery), also plenty of guest ales, craft kegs and bottled beers, utilitarian bare-boards interior with exposed ducting, rough masonry walls and eclectic mix of seating including some button-back booths, popular sensibly priced food from British tapas and sharing boards up including special theme nights, busy efficient staff, upstairs function room; background music, sports TV; children and dogs welcome, pavement tables, open all day.

Wig and Pen, http://www.thewigandpen.com 6 St Martin-At-Palace Plain, Norwich NR3 1RN (6 minute drive from the ground)

Popular 17th-c beamed pub close to cathedral; half a dozen well kept local ales including Adnams, Wolf and Woodfordes, well priced wines and good value food from sandwiches up, Sunday roasts, prompt friendly service; background music, sports TVs, spring beer festival; metal café-style furniture on large terrace at front, open all day (till 6.30pm Sun).

 

 

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Norwich:

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There is no designated away team pub in Norwich.

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Nowrich have a lot to play for and we don't.  However our players should be playing for their shirt and a place in Mannings starting line up for next season.  I can't think of any who are getting shipped out though there are one or two out of contract in the summer.

Not sure how attacking or defensive we will set up, though having Dickie back should be a plus (I think Vyner may still be sidelined).

A flight to Barcelona to watch the game on RobinsTV is going to be a lot quicker than travelling to the actual game and probably a bit cheaper too.

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They've won all home league games since knocking the fewers out of the fa cup - that's 8 wins. And 11 wins/2 draws in their last 13 home league games (couldn't be bothered to go further back.)

I am surprised we aren't longer than about 4-1 for a win.

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Fantastic, as ever, @Jerseybean but you’ve missed one famous fact about Norwich - i.e Kemps jig. Will Kemp was a contemporary of William Shakespeare and along with Shakespeare, a shareholder in The Lord Chamberlain’s Men, the troupe of actors who built the original Globe Theatre. He was a comic who was famous, at the time, for his comic improvisation. As Shakespeare became more famous he wanted to be regarded as a serious playwright and fell out with Kemp who felt that as he was a star he shouldn’t be restricted to a scrip. Kemp decided to prove his celebrity status by Morris dancing from London to Norwich in nine days, becoming the first nine days wonder. 

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26 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Do Norwich have a lot to play for? It's pretty unlikely that Hull catch them even with a game in hand.

Of course they do, if they lose tomorrow and Hull win their game and their game in hand they're level on points...

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this could be a great game for LM, Norwich need to win, a good display from us,even a draw, would not surprise me in the slightest knowing how we play better against these top teams. 

back four might struggle today though without vyner,hopefully dickie is back and on his game. 

not a clue which way to predict it though, so going to say 2-0 either way

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So Delia had a go at the Norwich fans at the AGM for not sticking with their team in bad times like Portsmouth fans. The Carrow Road faithful have since taken to singing Play Up Pompey during games. Will listen out for that today.

I remember Rob Newman having a very successful spell at Norwich during the Robert Chase era. They saw off Vitesse Arnhem (relegated by the Dutch FA yesterday and Bayern Munich before running Inter Milan close in the 1993/94 UEFA cup. They became the only British team to win at. Bayern’s Olympic Stadium

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19 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Good memories. I remember the Murray and Trundle goals so vividly, both right in front of the away end. 

Me too , thought Orr scored aswell , but perhaps it was trundle that got 2 

3-1 wasn’t it 

Who’s injured this week , 

out with a knock = 8 months 🙈

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On 19/04/2024 at 13:18, Sweeneys Penalties said:

Crackin' good write up @Jerseybean

I'm not sure what to expect tomorrow. If Norwich start in a nervous way and City open the scoring early, I can see nerves well and truly jangling for the canaries. If Norwich start with a good mindset and no early errors.....best of luck to their Play Off ambitions

I see Norwich as the benchmark for BCFC, a decent ground, big catchment area and decent owners.

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