italian dave

Another opportunity, @Fordy62…………………….

The Unicorn……The Irish Rovers

Hindsight, I know, but I’m just glad it was only 15 minutes. I don’t think Bell was running at him: round him, past him, between him and his CB, making the clever runs Bell does. And as you say giving him a nightmare. Mehmeti wanted the ball first and then to run at him, and he got nowhere. Agree with you on Conway though. My feeling is we need to get back to a front two of Wells and Conway.

Watford announcer just welcomed back NP and their fans gave him a round of applause. Assume they do that every home game?!

Hindsight is a great thing….but what would 4 be? ??

That’s sounds familiar…l.!

I think the problem is that it’s not binary: it’s far more nuanced than that. It depends often on context and on intent. Lots of things that are funny the first time cease to be funny when they’re sung/said for the umpteenth time. Things are often funny precisely because they are close to the edge. But when they’re repeated endlessly and/or in a different context they no longer have that spontaneity, by definition they’re no longer ‘edgy’, and they’re usually being repeated because there’s an intent behind them which is the wrong side of that edge. ’Get your tits out…..’ probably was funny the first time, and there’s still occasionally a context where it’s funny (a couple of years ago City fans started singing it at an away game, directed at a very large male home fan with very obvious man boobs). But when it’s just sung at any randomly passing female steward etc then it’s not funny and it’s misogynist. So, it’s not so much about what you’re ‘allowed’ to think. More about thinking about the intent and the consequence and making your own judgement. Just my view, anyway.

I'm surprised it took half a page before his name came up.....

Look what you've started @Nogbad the Bad ?

Would we have got any insurance for Baker?

A lot more than that....especially at this stage of the season.

Ah, OK, get you! I don't know why. Maybe the issue of 'members' complicates it. There are already a fair number of existing commitments in terms of home games: season ticket holders, members, hospitality etc etc. I can see that away games are more straightforward. But I also take your point, especially in relation to 'exiled' fans.

They've done it before...several times.

It certainly would! Although, as you say, it's always a good away trip despite the facilities in the ground. The risk is we send them down and save Rotherham or Huddersfield in the process - both horrible away trips. I often think back to the opportunity we had to send Birmingham down a few years back - and fluffed it. So disappointing.

I don't feel so bad then ? It was only 10 words......no-one could have been bored for long!!! ?

Sorry if you were offended. Not intended. To be honest, I didn't even think it was particularly "political". More philosophical. And I was just responding directly to a specific question - and one you didn't seem to find offensive.

Completely agree. This is the one that just baffles me. The original would be the perfect funny, self-deprecating song that turns opposing fans chants back on themselves. A bit like the Welsh ‘1-0 to the sheepshaggers’ But we use an alternative version that’s just unfunny, crude and offensive - and then sing it about ourselves. Weird.

Well, Braverman’s colour doesn’t stop her being a racist bigot……..

Does anyone know who Joey Barton’s father is?

They’re so bad I’ve not even considered that possibility! Seriously, yes, you’re right; for some reason I had it in my mind that we’d beaten them. No idea why - it must be an instinctive reaction to forget pain! But, yes, if we manage to get results against both Sheff U and Burnley, then QPR could spoil the party. And knowing City that’s exactly what will happen!!

10/10……Paolo Nutini

I had to look twice, but it’s not necessarily about matches between those clubs. No one can do the double on Burnley or Sheff U: they’ve already beaten or drawn with everyone they’ve still got to play. If Luton lose to Middlesbrough next week then they’ll lose their record - but no-one else can do the double on them now. Rotherham have still got to play Burnley, Cardiff, Wigan and us - and if they lose any of those games then their record goes! And we’ve got to get a result against both Burnley and Sheff Utd if we’re going to keep our record.

They can’t. We can ruin their ‘not doubled’ record, same as Sheff U and Burnley could both ruin ours.

Although, Watford being Watford, I think he might be a bit optimistic believe it he’s going to last that long!