Kid in the Riot

Did Chris Hogg headbutt another member of staff?

3 hours ago, 22A said:

In their play off game; after 30 mins Solihull are winning 2-0 at Barnet.

Sure this has been covered before but why is Luke Freeman playing non-league?

27 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Is having beers with West Ham fans illegal? 

Nope. You're the one who said you drove to London and were on the beers. How did you get back?

8 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Why would another forum member accuse another forum member of commiting a criminal offence? How bizarre. 

And we haven't even got onto your admission that you drove to West Ham and had beers after with West Ham fans.... how'd you get back?

It also looks likely that, currently 47 goals against, will be the least goals we've conceded since promotion season in 2014-15. 

Next lowest was 53 GA in 2018-19.

So unless we concede 6 v Stoke... 

3 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Nice to finish a season ( i know we still have stoke) on a positive goal difference, sure one of the stats people can say how often we have done that over recent years and also the number of clean sheets must be up there as one of our best

It would be the first time we've had a positive goal difference since 2018-19 season, which was +6. 

5 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Last season we had a spell where we got 19 points from 10 games, Birmingham - Blackpool, W5, D4, L1.

Yes - I was specifically talking about the run-in though mate, as we perennially finish seasons poorly/average at this level.

Bloody hell!  Bears on fire!!

Just now, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Take it that it will be Cribbs v Manor Farm in play offs.

Bristol derby! I'd make BMF favourites for that

1 minute ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

1028 at Frome v Manor Farm today.

What a result for BMF!!

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Lush wraps aren’t they. Pack a bit of a punch too.  

I've never got past the taster box!

Good value too, tenner and a drink included 

The taster box from LJ Hugs in Broadmead. My god, unbelievable street food. 

One in Bath too that's exactly the same. 

26 minutes ago, eardun said:

Hope to see some of that next season. 

Shit-pinger

11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

In terms of going up I can't really warm to.any of them.

Leicester may have breached FFP and maybe set to breach again.

Ipswich well nuff said.

Southampton, Russell Martin.

Ironically Leeds don't fit any of those and certainly appear to be aligned to FFP e.g. 

For any City fan, or indeed fan of english football, the preference has to be Ipswich.

Every time a parachute club goes straight back up, it's another kick in the teeth for the rest of us. 

A non-parachute club going up gives us some hope, at least. 

1 minute ago, 22A said:

Cardiff, Coventry, PNE & Middlesbrough all lose tomorrow whilst City win would see City 8th with one game to go. 

We can all dream can't we. After all, a unique and unlikely set of results can occur; just ask Rovers about the 2013-14 season. 

Finishing ahead of Cardiff is all we have to play for 

35 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Dunno what you want from a home game if you think the atmosphere was poor v Blackburn?

By modern Ashton Gate standards, that's as good as it gets. 

West Ham (h) was the best atmosphere I've experienced at AG since the Man U win in 2017. 

Proper old skool up in Dolman, what was block B. 

9 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

 

To be fair, I have had the same thoughts but what’s gone on at Brum probably supports that you do make the permanent change as opposed to wait it out. Venus was a horror show and although it’s not the sole reason they may go down, putting Rowett in charge earlier I’d wager they wouldn’t be in as much trouble as they are. Issue there is you do that and he does well, who do you want as manager long term.

Of course, had Nige taken a leave of absence wholly possible Euell and Phlegm could have done well but I do kind of get the logic of a clean break.

Agree with this. Bringing in "cover" makes the situation potentially very messy.

And if you already have a club owner that has very different ideas on how to run a club to the manager and "doesn't always see eye to eye" with the manager (Steve's exact words), and that manager is out of contract at the end of the season, then the reality is they are going to make a clean break.

20 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Just think its very crass for anyone to support someone losing their job because of health issues. 

No-one has done that though. You said some people were calling for Nige to be sacked because of health issues, which is not true. 

For starters, at the time of his sacking hardly anyone (myself included) wanted him sacked. And secondly, the full extent of his health problems and the seriousness of them were not known. 

There's enough criticism to be levelled at the club and their handling of the sacking without retrospectively making stuff up which didn't happen. 

5 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Your comments about Nigels health is why you are on my ignore list.

That's odd, as you appear to have just quoted me? 

Just another lie, I guess...

37 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

There were posters on here calling for him to be sacked because of his health issues. It just shows that society has a very long way to go. 

I mean this sounds like another massive lie. 

54 minutes ago, lenred said:

Any decent employer would’ve given him the time and space to get better if that is what was needed.   We had cover and could’ve got more if needed.   Let’s not pretend City have done him any favours whatsoever here.  

You make it sound like Anne in admin has got tendonitis and we need to find cover for a fortnight.

This is a somewhat different scenario, finding cover for a football manager? 

I am not saying the club have consciously or literally "done him a favour", however given the seriousness of his condition I'd say him being out of work (paid) and able to fully relax and recover is better for him long term than working at City under a couple of clowns. 

3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Then the club should have been honest. It’s the lies that have pissed me off since he was sacked & was the clincher in me not renewing my season ticket. Always love the club but I detest Jon Lansdown & his old man’s attitude to us as fans (sorry customers) only qualification he has to run our club is being born with a silver spoon . He’s a bafoon 

They definitely should have been more honest, however mentioning ill health as one of the reasons for dismissal is tricky for obvious reasons. He was clearly of the view that he could continue to carry out his duties as manager, the club disagreed. It happens. 

One thing is for sure, he wasn't working in the same way as he was pre-illness.

5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I still think 99% of the problem lays with the Club, they could have done this in a much better way but the poor relationship , and poor leadership meant it didn't happen. 

Pearson was on crutches at the training ground, but he didn't take sessions as far as I'm aware, he liked others to take responsibility . That's why he seemed to take a lot of care choosing staff. As long as he could watch sessions I'm not sure it made a lot of difference to what happened, though I doubt it was helping his situation. 

What should/could have happened is, the approach him and try and talk him into taking gardening leave to have the OP. He was OOC in the summer , so unless they really thought that another Coach/Manager could really take them to the Playoffs there was no rush to change things. 
IMO the summer was the time to make changes 

Because they ( I think it was Tinnion ) suggested the change would be seamless and was done to make a top 6 push, it does make it adversarial , it's football fans after all it's what we do. All the bluff that came after was just trying to save face and make excuses , again not Mannings fault but he was always going to get some stick as the face of the Club.  Tinnion then came out and said he ( Manning) was learning on the Job, the opposite of what was suggested when he came in.

They couldn't sack him for health issues , but if they had managed to get him on Gardening leave and had Flemming in charge for the rest of the season , at least the fans would have seen reason. Then we start with a new manager/coach who gets a proper pre season.

It's just down to poor leadership of the Club at the very top. For one brief minute we looked like we were on to something , we had a strong Manager and a top CEO. Going back to an inexperienced Chairman and a shared CEO and a TD we look like a rudderless ship.

Couldn't agree more. Absolutely hopeless comms, both to Nige himself and the fans. 

But then what's new on that front? 

It's always been the same under the Lansdowns, because guess what? They aren't very good communicators. 

And we're now left in a bizarre vacuum where they won't even employ someone decent to do the comms for them!

4 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

While yes, it doesn’t excuse the lack of honesty and integrity.  

Absolutely. And in doing so they have martyred Nige and created a whole load of mistrust. 

1 minute ago, RollsRoyce said:

Sacked for being disabled. Some boss or owner you would be. Unreal. Are you serous in what you just wrote? Have a long hard think about what you are saying. 

Read what I said properly and don't slur me, you moron. 

8 minutes ago, spudski said:

What crossed my mind, about the sacking, and that it wasn't amicable, In the same breath, he says he's concentrating on getting back to full health and reading between the lines wouldn't take another job on until ready. 

So did he feel with his health situation he could still manage us using his Coaches. 

It raises those questions in my head. 

I think he knew he couldn't carry on due to health issues. I recall in one of his last interviews he said he just needed a quick op and would be in and out of hospital in "48 hours". That was disingenuous, I believe, and he knew the situation was much more serious.

He spent a week in hospital having tests in Nov/Dec and we know that as of early Jan he still couldn't walk. 

For a fact, he would have had to take more time off from the job to get treated. Whatever anyone says, that is a less than ideal situation for the club, and frankly not good for Nige.

He won't see it this way, but ultimately the club may have done him a favour so that he could fully concentrate on getting better. 

Seems he's still not 100% fit so I've no idea how or why people think he'd have been able to see the full season out here.