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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Absolutely so.

Certainly can argue he never got a chance, from memory he only got an hour in one game v Swansea & 2 brief-ish sub appearances.

For those who claim he is someone we miss, I genuinely don’t know how you can have an opinion either way, based on that tiny sample size.

What this season has showed is that he is clearly very good at League One level, but for him & Peterborough, next season will be a totally different test.

Not forgetting his speedy Gonzalez demeanour in the pre season friendly at the New Lawn. At that venue I had just returned from buying two teas after a painfully long queue only to see near as damn get blown away by a Szmodics blast over the bar that ricocheted off a brick wall; he was, alas, a near miss for City as well 

On 30/04/2021 at 01:09, Toffee dog said:

Now called the Congresbury Arms

There is no respect for history is there. I also remembered the Spotted Horse... Not at all spotted and a 1960's architectural gem with symmetry at front to die for and casually torn down for a row of neo shit boxes. 

21 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I think that would've been an advert for Worthington E.  "Smooth and easy" went the tagline. The E stood for "Extra" as it was a bit stronger than the 2.2 OG (I kid ye not) normal Worthington Bitter.

It was sold from pumps with a big plastic E attached, which were a frequently swiped by teenaged 'erberts like me.

I wish I'd kept one. This bloke is selling one on eBay for £84!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124588262077?hash=item1d020a02bd:g:Hk4AAOSwPDVgFIR9

Arhhhhhh marvellous. Much appreciated not least for the correction. I suspect Double Diamond and Worthington E were competing head on. Dad was definitely more a DD man. But he often had a shot of whiskey to finish which might explain the wimpish weakness of which you speak.

I put in a cheeky bid for a tenner. 

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Not a fan of any bitter from the 70s. It's no wonder football fans used to beat shit out of each other in those days. Rage over the crap beer on offer.

I gather they've brought back Watney's Party Sevens now with a completely different brew. Might be safe to try...

I remember the Double Diamond advert in the 70's. I seem to recall it showed the letter E filling up with the amber nectar. I mentioned this observation to Dad who said that when I reach adulthood I could go in a pub and order a pint of E. I did just that on my first visit to the Ship and Castle in Congresbury and they just stared at me. I was most put out. A big dream had been shattered. To this day the taste remains alusive.

15 games and 11 points compared to 11 and 9 respectively for Barton and Pearson. Both teams in free fall. Barton simply had less of a cushion to play with. I would not blame him either. 

3 hours ago, sludge said:

You mean division 5 in gas speak

Actually I think it's the Premier League for them no? The Nationwide Premier League. The Gas are at the top table where they belong. I wish them well. 

Well I have to say that I genuinely thought the Gas would pull clear when whatshisface Kravat came in. Then they announced he had been sacked barely 3 months after arriving. Then Ballsy Joey arrived and I thought that's a bit left field but ok, maybe they know something I do not and this guy is a fixer. Then I woke up this morning and realised... He most certainly is.

It's actually looking quite exciting as a spectacle. 4 from 6 basically nailed on but every place could literally go down to the final day. Geoff S and team must be eyeing up that battle already.

53 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

I joined the old Gas forum about 10 years ago, made ONE post consisting of two words just after they were relegated back to L2 and was immediately banned.

”Oh Yes!”

I did too and said simply 'Congrats'. No reaction. Never posted since. Maybe they did not understand the 'big word shortened English' vernacular?

I would recruit Holloway until the end of the season and then, if he keeps them up, discuss a longer term deal. Of course IH will want assurances about the training ground and a new tent at the bell end. He may not get it.

1 hour ago, BS2 Red said:

"Someone from abroad;Portugal/Spain or Yugoslavian....or Byzantium or Gaul."

They make very good tents in Turkey as it happens.

Matty Taylor. 

Sorry to hear about your Mum Tony and that you cannot visit. Is there absolutely no way even on humanitarian grounds? Heartbreaking. 

Nice thread Phantom and very well said. I hope everyone can enjoy some cheer at this time of year and for those who cannot I hope someone reaches out to them. Any gesture of kindness I think goes a long way.

I concur with much that has been said here. 

Happy new year everyone. 

I am not amazed at all. Footballers tend not to be the brightest tool in the box. They watch a slick presentation and they fall for it... That's just human nature.

As it's been locked.

So approximately 65% would like to attend and 11% would not based on an expressed fear. 

Does this straw poll illustrate an example of where the real population is regarding the lockdown?

The polls we have seen show an enormous majority for continuation of it.

I sincerely hope polls edge toward the former because this govt is clearly paying close attention to them and we are going nowhere as a nation in lockdown and this so called respiratory virus is never going away.

11 hours ago, southvillekiddy said:

That's what I was saying a month ago and getting a lot of flack for it. Included in that was the idea that you pay whatever that person needs to accept the job. You don't muck them around as we may well have done with Hughton.

No flack from this qtr kiddy.

Ancelotti is an interesting example. I may have the wrong club but I recall reading his departure from Inter was met with significant relief due to his high spending and boring tactics.

I have heard the same criticism levelled at Hughton.

I have said I would take boring football for a while to get us properly challenging because let's face it we have only really flirted with the playoffs during LJ's tenure only to end up as powder puffs.

To imagine Holden would do any better is frankly laughable. The one quality he lacks without any hint of controversy is gravitas. Hughton has it. Especially young players are hugely motivated by characters they can look up to.

To suggest SL does not get this or is contemplating turning his back on perhaps the one missing attribute of Johnson would be unfathomable.

This is absolutely nothing to do with Covid19 and budgetary restraints. If that is the yarn we will be fed all we have to do is remind everybody of the disparity in prize money between the two divisions... 3 million and 120 million per season... 4 full seasons, effectively, of Lee Johnson is close to a half billion loss of revenue. 

With Steve's financial services background he knows this better than anyone. So it is not exaggeration, at all, to then say it is suicidal to employ a novice. End of story.

P.s. I'll pop this in the Holden thread as well I think folks.

Thanks for clarifying the remark from HxJ about Parry not being on the panel Pop. 

I am rather taken aback there is no fixed penalty for given misdemeanours. It's a recipe for law suit one after the other. Mind boggling in its stupidity.

Parry has his work cut out. I see Championship clubs have rallied around Charlton making Wednesday the pariah... Not their fault they got away lightly though. 

5 hours ago, downendcity said:

Parry inherited a set of circumstances ( Derby, Wednesday, Reading)  caused by the previous regime’s ineptitude in allowing loopholes in the rules when they were drafted. 

To give him his due, at least he has pursued clubs on grounds under which action could be taken, whereas I have little doubt that had Harvey still be in charge he would have simply rolled over and let it go.

I do agree that what these cases have done is expose the gaping holes in ffp rules and the need for a revision, not only to close the loopholes already identified, but to anticipate the areas that clubs will next choose to attack. Perhaps if the punishment(s) are sever enough ( automatic relegation?) then that might be sufficient to cause clubs to comply for absolute fear of the consequences. In that respect, Parry’s stance in taking the action he has thus far will make club’s realise the EFL is no the soft touch they were previously.

 

Parry is taking too long to get his legs under the desk then.

14 minutes ago, Hxj said:

The case was taken to the INDEPENDENT DISCIPLINARY COMMISSION by the EFL with Parry in charge.  The decision of the INDEPENDENT DISCIPLINARY COMMISSION was as you state.  That could be appealed by both the EFL and the club.

How is that Parry found wanting?

Are you implying his hands were tied? If so then perhaps that's another matter. As I understand it 12 PTS have been dished out for the same season before Parry arrived and yet he chaired that meeting and was happy with a deduction next season? 

From where I stand he looks weak.

Feel free to clarify though.

4 hours ago, downendcity said:

Parry inherited a set of circumstances ( Derby, Wednesday, Reading)  caused by the previous regime’s ineptitude in allowing loopholes in the rules when they were drafted. 

To give him his due, at least he has pursued clubs on grounds under which action could be taken, whereas I have little doubt that had Harvey still be in charge he would have simply rolled over and let it go.

I do agree that what these cases have done is expose the gaping holes in ffp rules and the need for a revision, not only to close the loopholes already identified, but to anticipate the areas that clubs will next choose to attack. Perhaps if the punishment(s) are sever enough ( automatic relegation?) then that might be sufficient to cause clubs to comply for absolute fear of the consequences. In that respect, Parry’s stance in taking the action he has thus far will make club’s realise the EFL is no the soft touch they were previously.

 

Except for the fact you seem to be suggesting he has inherited rules so his 12 pt deduction is the same Harvey would have and indeed did dish out.

5 hours ago, Hxj said:

How?

12 PTS for Wed for next season?

Selling players and leasing them back from a same owner club will be the foundation stone of a mockery statue to the FL. Rules should have been in place to enforce punishment long ago. I seem to recall Watford being told you cannot loan more than 7 or so players from a same owner 'sister' club. At that time FFP was not so much in the news or 'in service'. Watford soon adapted. 

Unless automatic relegation of at least one division is the punishment and a clear and precise set of rules are in place to follow the FFP arrangement is not fit for purpose.

We are seeing law suits starting to flow now and I think while Parry was brought in to clean this up so far the evidence suggests he is found wanting.

It's a sorry state of affairs.

A 233% sales increase one week to the next. That's astonishing...

2 caps last week; 1 cap and a shirt this week with 50% off?

Did that make the inside back page?

10 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said:

I don’t envy the person making the decision about who comes in if the numbers are over that value! 

Sounds untenable to me. How to tell one season ticket holder to the next you are not worthy.

It's all a total nonsense.

Quite right what you guys are saying about winning something, playing at a top club etc in order to motivate your players long term. LJ's issue is that he has to be a superb coach and then maintain that level consistently for his players to want to always play for him... It is blindingly obvious they often don't. Not LJ's fault; he simply has that permanent limitation. I think the amount of player signings, the quality, the money spent is an enormous force for good and faith by Steve Lansdown. Clearly he is, or was, desperate for this to work. It must be finally dawning on him that no amount of support is going to give Lee that extra he needs to succeed. He is simply unable to do a job to that higher level necessary to be a long term success. I think that is all there is to it.