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Sounds very very poor from Piers. I would have expected better.

3 hours ago, Sturny said:

I don't think our approach is sensible as it could be. We're approaching this in a very reactive way rather than proactive.  

Italy are trying to stay one step ahead of coronavius by shutting schools and large events. We're reacting slowly and I don't see schools etc being closed until its too late. It'll probably happen no matter what, but the spread can be slowed which is the main thing to help hospitals 

Not really helped Italy thus far though has it in all fairness!

2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Doesn't help when you've got a part-time Prime Minister who isn't exactly renowned for his work ethic or attention to detail. 

Third world countries like Cambodia and Ghana are already screening people coming back into their respective countries. We're letting thousands of people fly back into the country from infected areas with no checks whatsoever. 

Oh deary me. We know this for a fact do we? 

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Was looking around at how one or two other countries dealt/deal with it, or have so far.

Picked one at random with a very low number of cases. Armenia has one- apparently shut border with Iran etc, suspended Visa free regime with China at end of January on a temp basis, put 30 people who the first guy had direct contact with into quarantine...seems that case is/has been the one and only. Possibly can be sealed off somewhat if measures taken pretty well instantly. Guess that China suspension thing will be quite open-ended.

https://armenpress.am/eng/news/1007179/

One country reducing its intake of Chinese is never a bad thing. Lovely people the Armenians. 

9 hours ago, Sturny said:

17 million have been quarantined in Italy now. We’re a little over a week behind them I wondering if it’ll be a similar case here. 

Very much doubt it. Especially if the govt continue their sensible approach.

6 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I’ve read some expert comments on twitter saying that the escalation in Italy isn’t directly comparable to the UK because they have a different population demographic (very broadly, older), a different healthcare setup (I don’t understand what difference that makes to spread), and most pertinently there was a hot spot of spread in one particular area that went undetected by the authorities until it was too late.

Latin countries tend to be more family oriented and social and, although not this time of year, spend more time in family get together's. Might also be relevant here. 

5 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

That’s true, and I’m not even saying I’m worried for myself, there’s a lot higher percentage in loads  of other things that will wipe me out. 
But that don’t mean I won’t put down others, that may be worried. 
As we all know however small the fatality rate is still requires people to die. 

I won't put down others either. Agree with that. People are free to do as they wish and should not be ridiculed regardless of their view. It's a real concern to all of us that much is true. How it is managed should be open to scrutiny.

4 hours ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Why disagree with me there? Are you saying you know no one who can be classed as high risk? Lucky you if it’s true or maybe unlucky you to not know anyone over the age of 75-80. 
 

My father is over that age and this time last year to be running 6 miles 3 times a week. Roll forward 12 months can hardly walk up stairs due to bladder cancer. Just shows how quick things can change. 
 

Also comparing it to normal flu, a high majority of people at risk have the yearly flu jab. 

I disagree simply because not every family is in the unfortunate position to have a family member susceptible to catching any virus. And let's face it, it could be any virus if you are vulnerable. 

10 hours ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Due to go to Milan in April which is going into shut down till 3rd April. 
 

The speed of the spread of infection is worrying here so I can understand some are concerned. People saying fatalities are only the weak or old are missing the point. We all know and have these type of people in our families. 

I would have to disagree with you there. 

16 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said:

No that's not the numbers. 0,001 dies from flue. 0,034 from this virus   

You have proved my point from an earlier post... The numbers are all over the place. 

Basic hygiene is obviously something alien to many people.. how many times have you seen people go to a WC and walk out without washing their hands... I am sure most of us always do, I know I do. Flu or Covid 19... same precautions. 

10 hours ago, tunnie12345 said:

Exactly this.... Remember only a couple of weeks ago when Caroline Flack had died? Coronavirus was barely mentioned for like a week, until people got bored of that story[ as harsh as it sounds].

Even the BBC lead with "Iran closes all schools and universities for a month" now while the fact is actually true. What they fail to mention until the last line of the story is that in fact after next Friday the schools are on holiday for 3 weeks anyway. Headline wouldn't quite sound as scary tho is they put "Iran lets kids break up a week early" does it!

Very well put.

6 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

People don't like the economic impact, until its one of their family who dies. Then the economic factor is less important. 

I've no way of proving it, of course not, but I'm sure someone will directly/indirectly be infected and die as a direct result of football matches this weekend. Is that really worth it? 

If one dies of Corona then 60 will die of flu... Those are the factual numbers. Not made up. So I suppose you could then argue never go out? Because if you do you are incredibly selfish. That seems to be your position. 

3 hours ago, Harry said:

I noticed at tonight’s Forest Millwall game there was no handshake pre match but everyone had a really good handshake after the match. 
What was the point? 

Maybe grass is a natural antibiotic?

3 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Over 200 deaths in Italy so far

 

But don’t listen to the authorities , ignore them and listen to the toy salesman from St George - he’s the expert 

2 hours ago, Super said:

Anybody not taking this seriously and thinking this will pass soon are very naive.

A little perspective is called for that is all. Annually we have between 290,000 and 650,000 deaths from flu. That's a about a 0.06% death rate of the 3 to 5 million contracting it. No hysteria there that I can see. We just take it in our stride. Covid 19 death rate, percentage wise, is much higher, obviously because it is a new strain and new strains always spike, but the recovery rate is fairly swift for the vast majority and the overall numbers are tiny and manageable. Will those rise? Yes clearly. Should we listen and act on hysteria? Of course not. I think the British govt response is far more sensible than the Italian, for example.

6 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said:

I'll probably take an umbrella tomorrow just to be sure

Eeeuuuuu... Hahahahaa. Not a bad idea!!

10 hours ago, myol'man said:

Happy Donowa Day

 

 

...oops, a day late 

I remember that goal well.

Good old Malone.. his commentary was absolutely awful, so matter of fact and baritone but now I simply love it to bits because nobody does it like Malone.  

6 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said:

I'm hoping the bloke behind me is a bit calmer tomorrow. Normal get covered in spit after he has an outburst at Johnson. I also presume the players won't be grabbing and holding shirts tomorrow, spitting on the floor or clearing their noses onto the pitch.

What a hilarious carry on. 

4 minutes ago, windmillhillred said:

But it is much more dangerous than flu. People can take precautions which will protect themselves and stop elderly and ill  people dying.

Sturney and Red's links illustrate what we are already seeing which is most people recovering after a few days just like flu because it is a flu albeit a new strain. Even though we have an antidote for flu people still die in very large numbers and yet we do not panic do we. The percentages frankly are all over the place and this is very misleading. The fact is people will die of all kinds of things no more and no less harmful than Covid 19 so it is no more dangerous IF you are ordinarily healthy because it is not a killer. 

What whips this up is the media. If there is no story out there they will find one. They always do so they have something to ram home day in day out. Govt's are then forced to act or the population go mad. That's modern society for you.

11 hours ago, BarnzFM said:

Get on with our lives and spread it to the meek? Got a survival of the fittest vibe to you. 

No need to twist what I said or were you unable to comprehend. One or other.

7 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

This sort of thoughtless ambivalence and disregard for the vulnerable is more dangerous than any “overreaction”. Just getting on with our lives and making no adjustments for a virus with a 3% fatality rate will literally kill people.

Like the other chap you have ever so slightly over egged what I said. The fact is there is no antidote but you are not going to die unless you are very weak or very unhealthy in which case of course stay away from a crowd much the same if you have flu which, even with an antidote, killed hundreds of thousands last year and does every year. Get a grip. Hysteria is beyond a joke.

7 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

My 3% is based on the following from the WHO:

“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.“

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020

I appreciate “reported” is a significant word there, but nonetheless it’s a clear statement from the WHO that the risk is substantially greater than ordinary flu.

If you are seriously weak or ill. Otherwise get over it and get back to work. ... Exactly like flu. 

I abhor the over reaction from some governments. Yes this is serious even if in the time it's been around a multiple of 60 have died from flu. A new virus kills the meak until an antidote is found; for the rest of us it's an irritating flu we will recover from. We should all get on with our lives. 

So Villa are basically relegated then Pops? Pretty much are anyway I reckon.

Looks like you chaps may have forced its closure:~

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what a shame!

On 17/01/2020 at 10:33, Port Said Red said:

I didn't realise that he was even at Forest, I thought he had disappeared off into the lower leagues...... From what little I know about him, he always seemed to be more of a ball player type, so what he would be doing at Rovers is anyone's guess.

Playing with them?

4 hours ago, RedRock said:

Bloody Cornish always lose to the bloody The Sags. Useless.

Boris doesn't hang around changing those electoral boundaries does he. 

Very inconsistent are the gas smells.

On 31/08/2019 at 04:39, Northern Red said:

He's talking out of his arse.

I suppose that explains his appalling command of the English language; its garbled and incoherent much like a fart.

On 01/09/2019 at 01:53, BobBobSuperBob said:

Sensible appointment that

Perhaps not for Hill himself though.

On 30/03/2019 at 18:39, ScottishRed said:

I wouldn’t expect this to be resolved anytime soon, which will not help the friends and families of the the two men that sadly lost their lives that evening.

Agreed. One of the most open, if not the most, open countries in the world reporting every agonising detail that comes to light  as far as friends and family are concerned; compare that to where the lad comes from; Argentina has a reputation for hiding the truth or suppressing it for as long as possible. The latter likely to be even more painful. In short, the news, of any kind, has to be aired however much it hurts.

1 hour ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

I think I’m going to let it be known to the fans of Seychelles United that I’ve always been a supporter of theirs and would love to visit their ground. For three weeks. In May. 

I did the same for Manila City. Started well until i was outed and now i am chained to a gas lamp until the money is paid back. Havana was better, i managed to get on a plane just before being nabbed for being a life long fan of Athletico Havana.

He will take one look at Ashton Gate and realise he selected incorrectly.

Next season he will pop up as a life long fan of Rochdale so that he can have a free tour of the northern parts. After that he'll be off to Airdrieonians in 2021.

57 minutes ago, 22A said:

http://gaschat.co.uk/thread/13889/jester-official-sunderland-matchday-thread?page=10                              Reality is striking.

It feels already like we’re down so if we stay up that’s a positive otherwise we’ve got a good vote for next season.

The game on Tuesday was a real battle and imo the players looked exhausted at the end - perhaps that is some of the reason for today?
What is worrying is that we have Sat/Tues matches all through March so the players are going to be tested

 

 

Talks like their fitness levels are not high enough; that is down to the coaching staff and is a big worry if true.