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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It was Connolly so it doesn’t count.

Seriously though, I think that one last night was a bit more grey, because Connolly isn’t caring around whether he hits keeper either.

Play-on!!

I don't think Connolly could see him as he was facing the other way

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yep. It can still be dangerous even if you win the ball first.

Yet in the game last night the Norwich keeper came flying out of the box to head the ball and completely flattened the Hull CF who had to go off with multiple injuries. Result? Free kick to Norwich!

Looking at the league table they have an almost identical record to us, the same at home and only out by one in away games. The only difference is they've conceded quite a few more than we have, obviously when they lose they lose well!

5 hours ago, Bob Binalong said:

I am over 65in the Lansdown Wings.  I have had to pay £20 plus £1.25 fees for a seat that is advertised as £15 in the email from the club.  For the sake of £5 I can't be bothered to wait for hours on the phone to sort it out.  Have I missed something?

I'm over 65 in Lansdown Centre and only got charged £17, you should have been charged £15 as advertised, and didn't get charged the admin either.

I have got my West Ham tickets. I notice that in my account there is an option to "add to mobile wallet", has anybody tried this? I'm a bit worried it might wipe out my Watford ticket. Pity there's no help on the system!

We took a load to Leeds in the '74 cup match, and the '76 league opener at Highbury, don't know the exact figures but def over 9000 at Arsenal

41 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

If you have a fire stick it’s on espn ( USA ) sports net , bein sports connect, bein sports 2 .

The firestick app won't install unless you have a premium VPN - I tried

8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

It's not so much the other non football wages as the other costs tbh.

By which I mean non football costs..events do cost to put on but in 2021-22, 75-80% of wages were football.

Suppliers, outsourcing, energy efficiency maybe to name 3..do we get the best value here...

We maybe could save some money on those items you mentioned but it's not going to put much of a dent in our deficit surely? The major items on the balance sheet are player transfers and player wages.

13 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Moral of the story , give all your money to a bluffer and you are likely to lose it 

Glad you know more about finance than SL, impressive 

3 minutes ago, JAWS said:

That's the bit that SL has failed to do. Can't bring himself to speculate the additional funds needed to get to the promised land and so the model is one of significant loss mitigated by significant player sales. The problem is relying on the latter, and even then the latter is unlikely to cover the loss. NP quite rightly publicly criticised this flawed model in the earlier part of his tenure. Unfortunately those comments weren't lost on the regime but in the wrong way ie. instead of taking heed of NP's comments, they were offended & it was probably one of NP's black marks. Unfortunately SL's ego continues to get the better of him

Surely if he speculates extra funds and the bet doesn't come off the accounts are in an even worse state? Isn't that what he tried with LJ?

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No, firstly, i’d reduce a load of the other costs outside of the playing / coaching staff.  I’d recruit better too.  I’m not suggesting it being run at break even, but do you think it’s acceptable to run at an operational loss of £30m p.a. (£25m ish in a 12 month financial year)?  I don’t.  I think it’s shocking.  I think it’s wasteful.  Especially when the playing budget has been cut already.  What is the rest of the “empire” doing?

Because running at a £25m operational loss, hamstrings your playing capability, which is why we’ve struggled to kick on?

Don’t you have some semblance of critique for the way we e lost, and lost and lost, money?

We're not much different to other Championship clubs, the players wage bill dominates the accounts. It's not going to make much difference making a few admin staff redundant.

15 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t even blame him…it’s collective blame, SL, JL, MA, LJ.

Its not wages / amortisation, it’s the rest of the cost base that does me.

We run a £35m business that costs £65m to run.  Who would Seriousky praise that, it’s effing bonkers.

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FWIW I supported the idea of Bristol Sport - the operational bit (not the brand) - in terms of pooling resources to create operational efficiencies in the running of a multi-sport set-up, but I know from some who work there it is the opposite - inefficient and lacks accountability.

So how would you balance the books? Reduce the squad and wage bill further and risk being relegated? The only way to make money is to get to the Prem.

14 minutes ago, spudski said:

This is some great footage that shows what the ground looked like clearly in 1947. 

https://cutt.ly/vwGQye5B

 

Yes, good shots of the stadium, particularly the old "Cowshed" stand where the Dolman is now. There doesn't appear to be anything down the side where the Williams stand was/ Lansdown is now, was that due to bombing in the war, or was it just like that originally?

Came across this film clip from British Pathe.  It was the Gloucestser Cup Final held at Eastville on April 10th which Rovers won 1-0. The film isn't that good with sections upside down for some reason, I'm surprised it was filmed if it was Gloucester Cup but maybe it was more important in those days?

It didn't help that their floodlights were so poor, there were several dark patches making it difficult for the cameras 

Birmingham have severe injury problems especially in defence yet their fans still expect to win, most thinking along the lines "If we can't beat Bristol at home then we're really in the s***", fans from other teams always look at us as an easy fixture regardless of how we're playing at the time.

20 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

That would be disappointing in some ways because I still doubt JL is up to it medium to long term, Tinnion and him..the dynamic duo.

Views aside, fresh investment is one thing but it can also bring new ideas and impetus. Dynamism.

I know JL and Tins are getting slated by many on here but I can't see they've done much wrong. Regarding the last two managerial appointments most agree NP was a good choice at the time and although Manning is in the early stages of his City career this appointment is looking promising as well. I think it's more they don't come across too well in the media doesn't mean they're not competent though. Tins has also done great work with the Academy.

If we repeat our performance levels against Watford (a big IF given recent performances at St Andrews) we could get Rooney sacked. Owners seem to think losing to us it the lowest of the low, we've caused sackings on a few occasions with good away wins.

Sam Allison will be the first black referee to officiate a Premier League game today for the first time for 15 years. According to media stories he used to play for us, but I can't find anything about it online, I have no memory of him and I doubt he ever appeared for the first team. Can anyone else remember him being here?

37 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

NP seems not to get the luck in football.

Wonder why, minimum of 2 ridiculous sackings, in football reasons at Leicester that's 3.

Yet smarmy tossers like Parker, Martin seem to rise, get plum jobs.

NP tends to fall out with the owners at some stage in nearly all the jobs he's had. His time at City was the second longest he'd survived anywhere (other than his second stint at Leicester) which suggests our owners had more patience than most of the others.

Steve Lansdown is worth £2bn not £20bn , I'm glad the people quoting figures above aren't running the club accounts!

4 hours ago, RedM said:

You got to ask, if it's such a great idea why don't other clubs do the same?

He got the idea from Barcelona who have a similar set up

2 hours ago, Countryfile said:

The guys who saved us from going out of business really put themselves in the spotlight.

I believe one of them remortgaged his only home to put money into the club.

If you offered SL the chance to walk away at break even he’d snatch your hand off.

Anyone seriously believe it hasn’t been a ego thing?
 

Who would appoint their son to be the figurehead of a company who had zero experience, unless you were egotistical? 

Why does it matter if it's an "ego thing" or not? You're judging him as a person rather than a football club owner. How many top business people don't have an ego, I've  certainly never met any. All that matters is he's helping the football club move forward on and off the pitch

1 hour ago, fisherrich said:

A clear, strategic business plan backed up with a defined strategy to help deliver clear and concise objectives would be a good start - after 20 years FFS!

So to go back to my original question, which previous owners do you think have done better than the Lansdowns?

I've been watching City for over 50 years and seen a few owners come and go. There have always been some supporters who moan about the owners whoever's been in charge. I believe the Lansdown family has done more than any others by a mile, so I would ask those complaining who do you think did a better job than the Lansdowns at BCFC in the last 50 years? You might say Harry Dolman, who was the owner when I started watching City, but many fans complained he didn't spend enough on signing players and called him "Scrooge", whoever's been in charge here there have been a few people complaining. I'd be interested to hear what people think about previous owners.