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5 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

It's just not going to happen. We need to move on from this fairy tale that crops up far too regularly. 

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts as to what the blockers are for making this realistic rather than a fairy tale?

8 minutes ago, phantom said:

It does make me laugh how this topic comes up time and time again, lets face it we've basically built to the maximum of our capability, it's one of the stumbling blocks with asking for additional investment into the club

There is no scope to move any stands back, the club recognise this

I both disagree and agree with you.

I don't believe we've built to the maximum of our capability, however I do feel finance to do so would be very high, so in some ways you're both right and wrong.

Nothing is insurmountable with the right ambitions(and money)

Talk of buying the houses for £15million is nothing compared to the parachute payments that relegated clubs get from the premier league, circa ~£90million.

We wouldn't need to redevelop the Atyeo unless we make it to the Premier league - and if we did, I'd like us to follow the model that Burnley did when they first made it to premier, and bank the money for club infrastructure rather than blow the money on players. If we get relegated, so be it, but at least the long term plan is in place then.

Longer term, the Atyeo needs to done properly, and that includes pulling down the houses to build as big as possible (a proper large single tiered identifiable home end).

The Dolman and\or flats are coming close to the end of their lifespan. Maybe a deal could be done for the flats to be relocated as affordable homes\council tenants on the housing project that Steve Lansdown is building in Long Ashton to enable the Dolman to be rebuilt bigger (and in a different style to the Lansdown), and maybe a style that doesn't have roof supports preventing wrap around tiers.

Finally, I thought the South Stand was built with expansion in mind, but they dropped the prospect of executive boxes and an internal mezzanine floor at the last minute, but I thought it was designed with those in mind. And Ultimately, I believe it's only a handful of houses in Raynes road preventing us expanding the South Stand a lot higher and bigger.

Yes, to summarise, money is an issue, but not so much in the Premier, and with SL's backing it's a lot more doable.

I just hope we don't go for a half-baked option, and we look to do it properly.

1 minute ago, CyderInACan said:

Wickes is very much still open 

...does anyone have any idea of when the lease comes to an end?

Is Wickes still operating down there, or is it now a derelict building?

I know Planning Permission is being sought for the basketball arena, so if it's granted then Wickes would need to be knocked down, so I'm wondering if it's not being used now, why don't they pull it down and charge for parking until PP is granted?

On 08/07/2022 at 16:56, Garland-sweden said:

Some Swedes are coming over for the game. Think we will be 12 of us. COYR 

Does that also include Tommy? He seems to have completely dropped off this forum!

Here's another picture I found on my home PC.

15 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said:

Let’s not get carried away. Loooong way to go yet.
 

We’re still shopping in Poundland for bargains and there’s plenty in this division who can nip to Fortnum and Mason when they fancy something a bit special. 

I'm rather hoping that we're shopping in TK Maxx. Cheaper options but quality to be had from time to time.

On 07/06/2022 at 21:04, Sheltons Army said:

But the land was left for an open space , for use by the people of Bath and surrounds , not ‘to the’  council , the council are the trustees to ensure those wishes are kept,  not for a large proportion of it to be handed to the rugby Club to build a ground

 

Sounds remarkably similar to a plot of land in Bristol that I've heard about. Something along the lines of honouring fallen soldiers and having a covenant on it.

Im not a fan of VAR and would scrap it, but if it is to remain I'd like the offside decisions to be relative to the distances involved.

For example, the attacking player may have half of his foot ahead of the defender, but the defender could be three paces to the left\right of the attacker, so that half a foot distance isn't making a difference to the attack as the defender would never be able to reach the attacker anyway.

Which manager was it that consistently picked Liam Fontaine, when week after week Fontaine was costing us goals, making mistakes and was literally crumbling on the pitch?

I really felt for Fontaine as he was a really decent defender, and when he was going through a rough patch he should've been left out, given time to get his head right, but instead was left to almost breakdown in front of our eyes.

^^^ Taken from the OTIB fanzine.

28 minutes ago, Red Shadow said:

Clearly a goal to my eyes as the ball is under the roof netting and the crossbar.

Looks that way to me, but could it be the ball pressing down on the top of the net?

13 hours ago, Edgy Red said:

Apologies if i've missed this in another thread, but does anyone know any more about Bakers situation?

If (and i appreciate it's a big If) he was to join in pre season training and be available for us next season, it would be a massive boost.

A fit Nathan Baker is a very good Champ centre back and personally i would love to see him back next season.

If he did come back again to play for us, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be watching him play. 

Don't get me wrong, prior to his concussion I loved his 100% aggressive nature, but watching that approach wouldn't sit right with me knowing that one more bang to the head could result in severe disability or death. I'm not sure I'd like to watch.

I appreciate it could happen to anyone at any time, but surely the risk is a lot higher in this case?

5 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I may be out of step with others here but I think that Bakinson is a very good player indeed and one who, with the right coaching and guidance, can establish himself at at least championship level.  However I know little about his attitude and temperament and if those are indeed suspect then he needs someone he is prepared to learn from.  I doubt Pearson has the patience to get him on the right track.

No, you're not completely out of step. Bakinson has got something IMO also. When gets on the ball he has the ability to make something happen, whether thats a defence splitting pass or even popping up with a goal. In fact if you do a like for like comparison with Massengo, I'm pretty sure on an attacking front Bakinson would win the stats. However it's the other side of his game where he's lacking. He lets others drift past him too easily. He doesn't bust a gut to get back. If he loses the ball, there isn't any urgency - things that you do get with Massengo.

He's got great skill, he's big, strong, has an athletic build, so could be another poor mans Viera. Similarly Clayton Fortune was the same. Loads of ability but lacked the aggression and desire to take him as far as he could go.

Saying all that, I'd still let Bakinson go as I think too much water has gone under the bridge now.

I'd like to see a stadium clock which is linked to the referee, so that when he\she stops play, you can see the clock stopped also. This will then show EXACTLY how many minutes are left to play.

1 hour ago, The Gasbuster said:

Barton suggesting that if we were to "lend" them A.G. for their game against F.G.R., they would fill it.

As if, and as if.

and once again, one needs to ask why SL would go out of their way to help Rovers when they didn't support us trying to build a new Stadium? Cant have it both ways.

3 hours ago, WessexPest said:

FGR to travel to the Pisspoorial Mound on a rechargeable bus:-

Electricity > Gas

https://stroudtimes.com/forest-green-2-0ldham-athletic-0-rovers-on-the-verge-of-promotion/

...or one for the oldies, Cole > Gas!

5 minutes ago, trickytimes said:

It maybe my ageing eyesight but that save looks like a goal to me!

I thought the same myself

For the money that Warnock spends, he's probably the closest manager City could've afforded that would "almost" guarantee promotion to the top division. I cannot think of any other manager who'd come close for our price range.

The ironic thing is, getting into the Premier league and then getting relegated straight away can set you up longer term to afford other coaches\managers.

City keep complaining that we cannot compete with parachute payments, but we seem to reluctant take the dirty approach to get into the Premier and\or appoint proven managers who have got teams up.

2 hours ago, cidered abroad said:

@HomerRed

In those days, the keepers were only allowed to wear four colours.

GREEN; which was the standard because only one side in the League wore green shirts - Plymouth Argyle.

RED / BLUE / WHITE; White was never seen until Peter Shilton wore it for Leicester City in the early 1970's.

So when any side wearing RED played against Argyle, the only one used was BLUE

Also in those far off times, in FA Cup matches, both sides, in the case of a colour clash, had to change shirt colours. Many teams used white shirts as their second colour, so clubs tossed a coin to be able to use white shirts. The losers had to find another colour.

In the 1950's it happened three times with City.

1954 at home to Rotherham and Accrington Stanley 1958, away and the reply at home. For those games City wore Rovers Blue/White Quarters.

In 1959 against Blackpool home and replay away aginst Blackpool, a set of kit from Cardiff City

Nobody got uptight about City wearing blue shirts. City's change colours were normally White but in the early 1950's they used BLUE as first change for League games. Both City and Rovers had reserve teams in the Football Combination and the Western League. Rovers Western League side wore RED and White quarters. I never saw their First or Combination teams play so don't know if they wore white as a change or the red/white quarters.

Here endeth the Prehistoric history lesson!

Loved reading that, and it's made me think of a couple of questions:

- In the 70's when I was growing up, the keeper shirts always seemed to be green or yellow. Was Yellow another option back then?

- I knew that City borrowed the Rovers kit for a few games, but has it happened the other way around? Have Rovers every played in City's kit?

I remember when LJ joined, he asked for n transfer windows to get the players he needed. Those transfer windows then passed and he then finished one particular season by stating that the club needed to be brave and trust him to take us to the next level - it then proceeded to not work out!!!

When NP joined, he's asked at the beginning for 3 years to sort things out. He's probably realised he doesn't have the wriggle room that LJ had to wheel and deal, and ultimately his hands are tied by long term contracts preventing him spending money. So until those contracts expire and players are moved on, what can he do?

I'm happy to give NP the time required. It doesn't mean I'm happy with the football being played - it's pretty languid and un-exciting, but I do feel for the constraints we're under, and no matter what NP tries to do or say, it's the same players he's having to squeeze some kind of performance out of.

I saw this image on a Facebook group the other day and with inflation shows how much extra we're being asked to pay across ALL of the football clubs in the Country.

36 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Take your £200 government fuel loan, add in your £150 Council tax rebate and BINGO! South Stand season ticket is just twenty five quid.

And under the bright lights of Ashton Gate you could read a book using SLs 'leccy and keep yourself warm using a hand dryer.

What a ridiculous thing to say..............................everyone knows the hand dryers aren't warm !!

3 minutes ago, East Londoner said:

Mine too

Im stuck between choosing that, and the Benarous kicking the boot away incident