NickJ

13 hours ago, spudski said:

If it's not broke...why change it?

Why change it to attract a younger audience?

Sue Barker didn't want to retire, she wanted to continue. 

Some programmes are like a pair of old slippers, they are comforting and something that feels ' traditional '. 

Lots of older people watched, both my mum and dad did, and mum didn't really like sport. 

Some programmes and presenters just go together. 

There are plenty of programmes that attract a more youthful audience...are they going to change them to get older people on board?

They've probably got it right with Strictly, as that seems to attract all ages. 

When David Attenborough passes ...nature programmes will never be the same. 

I also miss Peter Allis with the Golf. Sadly passed. 

 

John Arlott

2 hours ago, Bainsey said:

Don't see anything wrong with that quote myself.

Yeah, I can really see Brian Clough or Alex Ferguson or Bob Paisley saying that. 

Good old fashoned plain speaking English isnt good enough these days, you have to appear clever.

14 hours ago, maxjak said:

I didn't want NP to go..........but he has.   So Are u then suggesting that our new manager retains exactly the same players that we have now?..........and somehow turns them into a top six side?  Personally i believe we are four players short of a reasonable team, if u don't regard that as an overhaul, then OK?

It was Jon Lansdown that said the current players were currently capable of being a top 6 side, just needed a better head coach.
 

in Jon Lansdown we trust.

11 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Just checked and every club in the Championship has a CEO apart from:

Norwich Board & Executive - Norwich City (canaries.co.uk) - but they have an actual proper board and sporting director.

Stoke Stoke City FC - Directory - they also have an actual proper board and sporting director.

Sheff Weds - Can't find any details, COO Liam Dooley left in October, but run by a madman.

Rotherham United - only have a COO and no DoF. An anomaly.

 

So basically us and bottom-of-the-table Rotherham are the division's outliers in terms of internal structure. Brilliant.

Impressive piece of research that mate.

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

Nor have I Phants.

Wild suggestions like this never happen.

Anyway - what is there to protest about? and before anyone mentions the Lansdowns ownership, be careful what you wish for. We could be a lot worse off with some kind of huxter taking over. 

At least we know what to expect.

We certainly do.

I’m not. Encouraged.

Sorry Harry mate.

The asylum is being run by the lunatic, and it’s tragic.

2 hours ago, maxjak said:

Try Anal?...................Whoops?    So sorry....... I misread it?

Not so sure it needed spelling out

4 hours ago, CliftonCliff said:

Away days an extreme rarity for me these days (I’m getting into my late 70s) and it’s been that way for a long time, but I was keen when much younger and clocked up a few. Without getting bogged down in the nitpicking about what counts and what doesn’t, my total’s in the low forties.
 

Totting them up and reading the nostalgia trips of others brought back some good old memories. I think we should give ourselves a pat on the back: we’ve all put our shift in at some point in our history and God knows it hasn’t always been a bed of roses.

If I had to pick the outstanding moments, they would have to include the first ever appearance at Wembley under dear old Coops, the unforgettable (and controversial ) evening at Highfield Road, when City & Coventry effectively stopped playing to ensure both teams stayed up with a draw, and perhaps the sweetest moment of all, a victory at Chester, again under TC, to ensure promotion back to the third tier after the most catastrophic few years in the club’s history. What a day that was!

Agree with those 3 and would add the famous 1-0 victory at Elland Road in 1974, the 1-0 promotion night home to Portsmouth 1976, and 6-1 at Bradford in 2014 to gain promotion under Cotts.

On 20/03/2022 at 17:39, Red DNA said:

Years ago I worked for a long time at The Smyth Arms, every Sunday we put chunks of cheese and crisps in bowls along the bar. Good for business to get people in early before the free food was gone and the salted crisps made them drink more . 
As an alternative to cheeses and crisps I also recall having chitterlings on offer for free at The Queens Arms (?) in Chew Magnawl), loverly jubbly . 

Don’t know of any pubs who offer these freebies these days. 

Stumbled across your old post skimming through this thread.

I should declare an interest, but anyway, although the Queens in Chew Magna no longer has chitterling on the bar (sometimes roast potatoes though), we have amazing chefs producing amazing food (and drinks, we are a great pub serving great food, real ales, lagers, ciders, wines and cocktails, not a gastropub).

https://www.thequeenschewmagna.co.uk/

No need to take my word for it, the reviews:

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1869005-d23659747-Reviews-The_Queen_s_Chew_Magna-Chew_Magna_Somerset_England.html

https://dishcult.com/restaurant/theponytrap?sortOrder=0&page=1&bookingDate=2023-11-14&covers=2&promotionId=0&bookingTime=19%3A30

How about:

Good Xmas present - Alan Dicks autobiography 

Currently on 80 different teams out of the current 92, plus about 16 now in National league and downwards. Some of the 80 seen at old and new stadiums (3 Rovers) plus a load of small clubs in friendlies.

But nowhere near 176, fair play @Miah Dennehy

15 hours ago, Spud21 said:

@NickJ agree with mist of that, and you are correct you cannot ignore the outcome, and there should be some periods where you look back and reflect and where an outcome was not satisfactory you review the processes, it can be thst you tweak the process to impact the outcome or you find that an external or other factor influenced yhr outcome you may not change the process because you are happy thst the outcome will change if that external factor goes away, if it continues then you may have to adjust for that factor.

Both approaches have merit and pitfalls, probably fir me the two most extreme examples in football are Pep and Jose, both are incredibly successful in their own way, Jose is all about results, he will do everything to win, he will almost break his players in the petsuit of success, and it works, until it doesnt and it then it all falls apart to some degree. Whereas pep is more about the process and giving the players the tools to do it themselves to a degree and thus he can build long term success, not saying he's nit an absolutely ruthless bastard when he needs to be though. 

As a club we are a perfect example of the pitfalls you identified in your first post, "oohhhh, look how good Brentford are, if we just implement a small part of their process (data led recruitment) we will obviously suceed like them" and repeat picking different clubs. 

Think you meant to refer to a different Nick.

But with my attention drawn to this thread, the differences I'm expecting are:

No cliches, David Brentisms, measuring grass, or throwing players under the bus from LM, I'd imagine.

10 minutes ago, Harry said:

I don’t think any of the fans will have been judging the new appointment on promotion. 
It’s Jon & Brian who have set that target. Quite clearly. 
As I’ve said, I will be 100% behind the new manager, whoever it may be. I’ll happily see us progress and if we finish top 10 I’ll think we’ve had a good year. 
I won’t be judging the new manager on achieving promotion this season. I will be judging Jon, Brian, Sean, Gavin & Tom on this. And if we do not achieve promotion this season I will be expecting them to front up and tell us what went wrong - was it budget, was it recruitment, was it injuries, was it their processes, was it that the players couldn’t fulfil the style that the club wanted, was it that their choice of head coach wasn’t able to implement the style of play the club want etc. 

Whatever happens this season, I will absolutely NOT be judging the new manager on this. 

Based on JL”s justification for sacking Nige, that’s a very fair analysis.

Pressure on crayon boy then.

9 hours ago, Fatknacker said:

I wonder why anyone bothers with football club ownership when halfwitted idiots like you make up a significant proportion of the supporters . Why don’t you and a few of the rest of the millionaire morons pool your life savings and buy the club and then you can run it, invest in it, write off its annual losses and ship the s**t the Lansdown do. 
if not, shut TF up and show a bit more gratitude to the best owners this club has had since Harry Dolman.

35 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said:

Read this on waking this morning. I trust you felt better after posting this quite unnecessarily abusive rant. I doubtless have many faults, but being a halfwitted idiot isn’t one of them.

For the record, and for a bit of balance, I have on a fair few occasions in the past posted in defence of Lansdown when he’s been the subject of disproportionate or unwarranted criticism and, like the vast majority of supporters, I remain enormously grateful for what he’s contributed to the club, not least the stadium rebuild and the hugely improved training facilities.

None of which renders him immune to negative comment if and when he gets things wrong, which he plainly has, numerous times. There is a pretty stark contrast between his business acumen and his ability to judge and manage people, as has been pointed out countless times by many others besides me.

It isn’t just a question of money. Anyone who hasn’t detected a decline in the stewardship of the club over the last few years simply hasn’t been paying attention. What’s happened this week is fundamentally wrongheaded on so many levels it’s hard to know where to start. There’s a reason why there’s such an overwhelming consensus on a forum that is usually deeply divided on such issues. You are very much in a tiny minority in trying to defend the indefensible and your arguments are not made any more credible by personal attacks on individual posters.

This club now has a serious problem with a deeply dysfunctional ownership and you appear to be one of a very small number of people who don’t recognise that. 

 

Great reply to a moronic rant.

13 hours ago, NickJ said:

Fair play to him if that’s the case mate the test will be if he gives the idiotic crayon boy a hard time or just sucks up 

Suck up it was then.

No disrespect to Joe, dont know him but where were the challenging follow up questions, there weren't any.

JOE:  Question

JON:  Answer

JOE: Oh right. Next question.

A few points:

JL moaned about the effect of covid, like we were the only team affected

JL said they had no one else lined up due to their morals - except that isnt true as theyve done it before

Could go on but the interview just reinforces my opinion of the so called leadership.

5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Piss off. I've stood on the away terrace at Burton with Joe. Absolutely no doubt he is a diehard City fan who was asking the right questions in that clip.

Let's see what the responses are... 

Fair play to him if that’s the case mate the test will be if he gives the idiotic crayon boy a hard time or just sucks up 

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Son of the late Ray, appointed as the new Gillingham manager today.

Don’t worry, I’m not suggesting him, more intrigued by a comment made by their American chairman today that they were looking for someone to play “brave, front foot football”.

Sound familiar?

There’s clearly a textbook for chairmen that him & JL have both read, isn’t there?

Meaningless dribble, isn’t it?

It’s an expression the cliche king,  nepo boy, uses a lot as well. 

1 hour ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Cheers, missed this earlier

Didn't deliberately ignore anything, was a nice compare and contrast given the OP appears to be one and done 

Absolutely been loads of strategy and direction for sometime, too. sadly some fans don't want to see it, don't trust it or actively rebel against it.

Been some cracking discussion from Dave and a few others in one of the tins/Eustace threads about set up and progression 

"Loads of strategy", that literally means there has been more than one strategy.

Therein lies some, but not all, of the problem.

Whatever did become of the Five Pillars.

3 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Really long and interesting and somewhat bizarre post seeing as it's 3 years old 

The academy stuff is miles off, given what's happened over the last 3 years , I get the call for Cat1 but in terms of costs and difference unless we were in the Prem it would be worse for us. I seem to recall Dave or someone else having that discussion a while back.

In terms of being on the pitch we're now in our 8th/9th season (I forget which) at this level. This is our longest run at this level since the 1960s to 1970s where we had 10 seasons before promotion.

Roughly 15 of our last 18 seasons have been in this league have been in the champ and we've progressed from being a Div2 (League One) team historically to being a sustained Championship team. For us this is our best run at our highest near continuous level, ever 

There's been progress off the pitch too with ground and hpc and everything else changing.

If you've gotta go, then that's your decision to make.

Thanks for making the post

You choose to ignore that he acknowledges in his opening sentence that some aspects of the original post have aged better than others.

Everything he thinks is encapsulated in his most recent post, not the 3 year old one.

As follows, I couldn't agree more and I think the majority on this forum would too:

Just reposting what I felt 3 years ago in August 2020, it got a lot of abuse. Some of it has aged ok, other aspects not. I did stop following the club, and only at the end of last season and this, started engaging again due to Nigel Pearson. 

Recent events only reinforce  the key points of what I felt back then. A few more might now agree. The substance is the same, the club use incompetent people to achieve a dream that requires extensive professional ability. There has not been any strategy or direction, and in the last months, Luton Town have now become the latest fad of the day. I mentioned a detachement between the fam base and club, again some said I was wrong, what I now read suggests I was closer to the truth. The biggest change that happened in the last 3 years, is that the club finally did emply someone who understood the needs required to become a Prem side. They also had a CEO who had similar experiences. In the space of 3 months, both were dispensed with as the the owner and his son are unable to accept professional criticism, and have reverted to type, by surrounding themselves with nepotism and cronyism. My base view 3 years aho was that Mr Lansdown did not know what he is doing. That remains, probably reinforced.

My next post in 3 years, I hope less,  I anticipate will be with new owners at the helm . BCFC is going nowhere with Mr Lansdown. 

Goodbye again and enjoy the season. 

9 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Well I see the hysteria hasn't abated this morning.

This was always going to be a hiding to nothing interview unless things were saidin exactly the way the baying mob wanted

Some of the abuse is completely unwarranted .

Give your collective heads a wobble

Some of the 'fans' behaviour is unreal 

All this because the club decided to change a manager FFS.

It was always going to be a hiding to nothing interview because Crayon Boy is out of his depth and completely unqualified to be managing people and Chairman of a Championship football club.

10 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Total capacity would have been 30k. Funding was supposedly in place - I still have the “Gatepost” with all the details. 

Could you post that on here or send me a DM plesae?

53 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Ahhh the club PR machine is oiled up and ready to go

He's boasting about a £50m development but when Lansdown first got involved there were plans passed by Bristol City Council for a 12,000 wrap around the Williams and East End. It was scrapped. Why?

My numbers are a bit hazy after these years but lets say it was someting like £10m budgeted cost AND half of that would have been paid for by the FOOTBALL TRUST, who at that time were tasked with encouraging clubs to upgrade facilities.

I never understood why that didn't go ahead, can anyone with a better memory than me add to that?

I was very vocal on here many years ago regarding Aston Vale etc and the motives behind transferring the stadium. I was proved right in many respects. For example, SL claimed AG wasnt financially viable, but after AV didn't go ahead, guess what, he developed AG - leaving him with personal ownership of AV which had been purchased off the back of BCFC.

You lose the energy to keep on about it after a while.

But with what's going on now with Crayon Boy I'm considering cranking it up again.

EDITED for CrayonBoyEsque spelling mistakes.

18 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

It's a completely fair question, @NickJ. It's something I've spoken to a couple of people at the SC&T about.

I've offered to help on the communication side of things if wanted because I know that's an area I could add something, but also my family and working circumstances (and the fact I very rarely get to see us play live anymore) mean I can't really be involved as heavily as I'd like to be as it stands. I'd feel a fraud if I tried to actively stick my oar in because I couldn't dedicate the time it merits. And, while I've been critical, that doesn't mean I don't appreciate how hard they all work on a voluntary basis!

So yeah, hopefully in the future I can get stuck in (if welcome) - I'd love to help properly. I completely appreciate there's nothing worse than someone standing on the sidelines criticising but then not doing their bit. But also, as I've said before, I'm always on DM if I can ever help with messaging and communicating (although this statement is bob on, so not sure how much help is needed!).

(Sorry to everyone else if this comes over all self-important, just answering the question!)

Tried to like that but none left - fair reply.

The funny thing is it’s been edited to leave what they think are Crayon Boys best bits.

Think about what the unedited version is like.

7 hours ago, Chris Bluebirds said:

I'm Cardiff city supporter. I have also put following on our forum page. Already had nearly 200 applauding your team.

Bristol city stayed in local Cardiff hotel prior to game. After evening meal they took remaining food to local homeless centre.

Well done Bristol that's class

6 hours ago, phantom said:

We do the same thing at every away game

I believe it has been going since around covid times

4 hours ago, Olé said:

Thanks, it's a regular thing. One of the staff that does it in the photo left the club 36 hours later. 

 

Didn't know about this, and it really it is class, and class from @Chris Bluebirds to acknowledge.

After the past couple of days, restores your faith in football fans. And so called football fans. Crayonboy.