Marina's Rolls Royce

I'm tired- let it be.

So- if we get on a firm financial footing in the immediate future as a result of the sale of current players who were developed or signed under the MA years- does that still mean that there's another 18 months of whatever bad that happens is down to MA ( or LJ for some)? Time to move on. See above. Let it be, Dave. Yep- I guess that will be the case for some. If we start winning consistently and look like we can seriously challenge towards the play offs then that's entirely 100% down to NP with the reverse also being true.

I once went to Home Park years ago midweek in winter as I was working in Cornwall. The home fans chanting at us BCFC fans: "You dirty Northern Bastards"- I loved them ever since!

The 'jumped' presumably?

Blimey

Thank you- an honest answer at least. We can move on from the blame of MA/LJ when it feels right! Football is so simple- if we start winning or better it's gonna be despite MA/LJ and if we get relegated or carry on as a bottom feeder it's because of them!

Ok- so when can we on OTIB move on from the MA/LJ era? The never ending blame game? And , by the way and IMO, if we end up with a new manager who is no better than Nige has been- it ain't gonna be Nige's fault that results are just as bad- it's because SL chooses another lemon.

Don't start a different conversation- this is about WHEN MA is no longer responsible for the mess we're in. It's a very simple question yet nobody seems to be able to answer it. (Browhill Reid Flint Bryan also sold at immense profit- you do the math).

Ok- but the losses were there pre MA and were significant. One year under MA was a profit. So , just to clarify and so I completely understand your points- when exactly can we move on from MA ( and LJ) being responsible for all our ongoing and future problems? Is it the end of this current window ( particularly if we sell someone signed or developed when MA was here) or the end of this season or next or the one after??? At what point? It's not a trick question.

Why would this make you a rover's fan? At least Ipswich have a history- one of their former players was even in Escape to Victory with Pele The thread we are on is "TONIGHT'S GAMES" by OP @Lanterne Rouge Oh dear- how awkward @slartibartfast

Fair enough. I dont have a problem with Ipswich fans to the point I wish them ill purely because a former employee works for their club. The idea that any future manager is going to be hamstrung by MA is, IMO, ridiculous. Out of interest- please can you specify that at what point we can move on from MA? Is it after Jan transfer window or next season? The one after? Never? Please be specific in your answer.

@Oléalways good and gives crucial insight to matches I cant always get to @Davefevs - excellent ( but I'm pretending I understand his stats)- Dave already knows this of me. @Jerseybean- IMO, has taken the mantel from Havantopia and made it his own yet totally and utterly has honoured his memory. As with Havantopia, I really look forward to his MDT. I love the trivia even down to which pubs or restaurants are relevant. I hope he continues for as long as he can find the time. Respect.

Also not your strong point ?

Irony not your strong point?

I think you'll find we have our own squirming issues to deal with atm. Ipswich are less than irrelevant.

OK- got it now. I couldn't give a toss about MA or Ipswich or is it the case that until BCFC see success again anything to the contrary is purely down to MA and by extension- Ipswich? Perhaps we should organise a march to get our club back?

Why? What on earth have Ipswich got to do with BCFC?

Is it available on ketchup?

They probably think he's just a tosser

Probably just a spin ache

Expecting a good committed performance today , considering the celery they're on.

LDDDDLLLLLLLL - make it a big one

Cardiff lose so that's LDDDDL and exactly the form we need from them.

Cardiff looking as they should- 10 mins more.