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34 minutes ago, petehinton said:

@Davefevs are you saying what the OSIB moles have said or am I

Come on then, spill the beans.

6 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I’m sorry but it do find this sort of argument to be, for want of a better word, total horseshit.

Football careers are short and plenty of players who do commit to a club - let’s say Taylor Moore, Chris Martin or James Morton to take a range of examples - find the club has no loyalty to them when their form drops off or we find better players.

Any footballer would be a fool to think a club would be loyal to them so why would they show loyalty? We all know how the transfer market works and anyone signing an 18 year old on a four year contract has to expect that it may take two years to find their feet so the last two years at the club are when the interest will be highest. 

You can quite easily say the club screwed up by not taking the cash last January and it certainly unfortunate both club and player clearly expected offers that did not come.

But Massengo has not refused to move to a club we have accepted an offer for and is utterly in his rights to not sign a contract. The error, so far as there is one, is the club failing to judge that he would not sign and move him on in time. I think criticism of the player for that is naive and absurd.

 

You not agreeing with a point of view doesn't make it horseshit. My point is, Taylor Moore did his absolute best to make a career at AG, even taking a reduced contract. I would happily applaud him if he returns to AG.

HNM otoh, as is totally his right, spent the last year of his contract trying to leave. What the rights and wrongs of it are I don't know but if he returns it would be a meh from me. 

7 minutes ago, Fontaineofallknowledge said:

Sorry what has he done wrong? Just made it clear he isn't going to sign a new contract which is his prerogative. 

As someone whose priority is bcfc, not HNM, that is exactly what is wrong about his decision imo. I certainly won't be wishing him well when he has cost us a fair chunk of money and shown no desire to commit to the club, which is my priority.

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

You are right, assuming we have offered an equivalent contract then assuming he’s heading abroad we will get compo under FIFA RSTP scheme…and probably something in the region of €300k.

When you say 'equivalent' does that mean at least the current salary? As most players are being offered reduced terms, maybe we wouldn't actually meet that condition? 300k is way below his market value but better than nowt.

Would it be a free transfer if he leaves in the summer (as stated in the article) or is any compensation involved? I would guess compo only comes into it if you offer a new contract, but we did. 

Great cup game that.

1 hour ago, M.D said:

I have a feeling its contractual reasons with Martin and HNM, Martin is a contract extension with appearances and with HNM, a fee to Monaco after 100 games.

NP said in one of his pressers that he didn't know anything about him being on 99 games. So either he was telling porkies or this isn't right. To be clear, I see no reason why he would deny it, even if it was true as he is pretty open about most things.

2 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Ok. I’ve just woken up and I’m a bit confused. Has Semenyo signed for Bournemouth? The fact this thread is still in the transfer forum suggests not? If he hasn’t do we know why and is there another club?

I hear it takes two days for Bournemouth to do a medical so maybe that's the delay . At least that was the story with the french player they were looking to sign.

24 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Everyone knows our best signing was 1.2m and after that 150k. 

But 300k sure was the funniest. 

Don't think either Superbob or Andy Cole cost £1.2m or 150k did they?

I'd be sorry to see Semenyo go as he is a player who can be exciting to watch on a good day. However, I am also keen to see NP get a bit of money to spend and see what he might be able to achieve given the chance.

7 minutes ago, Fammyfan said:

 AS has been out of form most of the season

He wasn't fit, then when he was, NP decided to keep him on the bench. I don't think it is any coincidence that after a run of games where he started he has got his mojo back. I do struggle to understand why he wasn't given a run of games earlier. Similar questions about why Cam Pring wasn't in the team. I question some of Nige's selection decisions, while accepting I don't know what goes on off the pitch.

Khadra, had to be.

How did JD get picked over Pring for so long? 

Just now, petehinton said:

By far the better team, by some distance. Be a travesty to not win this 

Where have I heard that before......

On 11/01/2023 at 17:49, NcnsBcfc said:

If Wolves want a deal, I think there is one to be done. It'll just be around future considerations (£17-18 m up front with possible £10m add ons?). Who knows, but maybe we stretch the fee to make any future FFP issues less pressing (Lloyd Kelly anyone).

I agree. I think £20-25m for Scott seems over-ambitious based on his contribution right now. He doesn't get enough goals/assists and isn't a Kante-type MF who justifies that fee with other attributes imo.

What they are paying for really is potential. So a lower up-front fee of say £15m but with lots of add ons in case he reaches the potential he seems to have seems more realistic to me. But what do I know. 

Just now, old_eastender said:

half chance for AW but volleyed well over, seems to have lost all his confidence with goal attempts

 

Playing wing back for weeks on end probably not helping.

Just now, Jerseybean said:

 

We have essentially been given a footballing lesson by a team who create space, options and overloads for fun, retain the ball and make quick/correct decisions, which in essence is the polar opposite to us!

 

So this is the key question for me. Is that because their players are better than ours;is it because our confidence at home is low, or is it that Swansea are being coached better than our side? Probably a combo of all three but I do feel we lack a cohesive style of play that points toward the coaching as at least a contributing factor. NP says he isn't a coach but he chose the coaches and I am not convinced they are delivering.

I'm fed up with having no midfield. Feels like we've been saying we need a decent defensive MF ever since we got back into this league. God knows how many midfielders we've gone through and we're still being over-run, as is the case today according to RB commentary.

£20m is probably not unrealistic for post-Covid championship valuations. As long as it included a good chunk of any future profit it might be worth considering. 

Boro really showing the benefit of the new manager bounce. Made me wonder whether SL ever managed to change manager and get that kind of effect. Cotterill maybe but that was only really after a good transfer window. We probably have had a good bounce on changing boss at some point and I've just forgotten it.

9 minutes ago, Spike said:

What's frustrating is that many corners and for the best part we're doing nothing with them. 

I think the problem is we aren't good in the air. So straight corners are likely to be cleared by a CB. We miss having a Flint or Fam on corners 

1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Next Sky question: How do you get it to full screen and not have the table running down one side?

Return button worked for me.

2 minutes ago, DolmanGaz said:

I have an older sky box. 403 has now finally turned on ree button options when the 8pm shiw began just now. Faff

Been watching since 7:40 on sky Q. It was a different menu than usual but no problem finding it.

I know Antoine hasn't done much recently but it can't be easy just coming on for 15-20 mins every game. I'd like to give him a run of starts and hope he can play himself back into some form.

Having watched Cotts team wallop Dean Smith's Walsall on multiple occasions I was always dubious of his ability. He was lucky to manage Brentford who recruited class players for his side. Wouldn't want him here.