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He’s playing in a struggling side. He’s a wide man originally who’s seriously bulked up and now plays predominantly central and is a handful. Quick too. 6 in 18 starts, is reasonable enough he’s the type of player we should be looking at in the market we are RoI International too, few goals for them.

Do you not think he would? What do you know of his game / style?

The answer is: Tom Ince ???

In fairness SL (and JL to a much lesser extent) have communicated to us fabs much of what is “speculated in this thread.

We aren’t in for anyone officially at this point!!! ? i do know he’s a player we have looked at previously. OOC this summer, no current intention to sign a new deal, I guess because of Rotherham’s position. Whether he’d jump out if the frying pan into another frying pan I don’t know. But I’m encouraged that this type of player is on our radar. As for Semenyo fee, no idea, but from the rumours it appears Bournemouth want him, so that strengthens our position on fee. My guesswork is we will get an initial fee of at least £10m…add ons who knows…a sell-on percentage at least. Semenyo or Ogbene? ?

Good article here re Cardiff:

https://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php

If true, perfectly fine practice to do that…as long as City authorised it.

Boom ?

The first question you have to ask is why the last two years have been like this? You need to look at underlying cause not current symptom. I agree we can’t survive doing “this” for five years. But don’t you think “we” are trying to do something about it, at least on the football side so that we start to move forward? Because I think we are / have. It’s called a rebuild, it takes time, it’s quite painful at times. A transfer window is when the reality hits for fans. Other team’s strengthening their squads, ours looking weaker through transfer speculation and / injuries. It is quite possible we sit here on 1st Feb with no new players! That’s pretty crap. But what can we do about it if there’s no money? For me it’s get behind the team, try to create an atmosphere that helps our players, put off the opposition, not the other way around. It might make a difference. Do you think “welcoming the players off the bus” whilst shouting #pearsonout is gonna help the players, because that is the underlying message of Forzaeastenders protest, that they want the manager out and it’s the owners that control that.

Just to add in my 2p re lost revenues, need to be mindful that tv rights are split into two main brackets: football league pool - circa £3.5m (the EFL TV Deal) solidarity payments - circa £4.5m (from the PL TV Deal) Lg1 clubs get around £3m

Very early on, keeper went over the top studs up, caught O’Dowda. Right on the edge of the box, red card or penalty.

Erratic keeper. Brilliant some days, not so others.

The QPR was, Dunne was on a yellow too.

That might be exactly what we do (being prudent)….but we don’t have to. That was the question I answered - how much could we spend. We could probably spend the lot as per my stupid initial scenario! ?

We don’t know…like Senenyo’s £12m, I don’t think the likes of Alex Crook know the exact amount nor the maje-up of any deal…because no deal has been structured yet. Picture this: WW - we are interested in Alex Scott, how much are you after BC - £25m WW - oh, bye i don’t believe we go in and say “£20m + £5m add-ons”. That comes as you start to enter negotiations.

Me and MrP will differ here. Here’s my stab…lots of caveats though! As it stands I think with the forecast spend for the rest of the season we are just inside FFP boundaries (with covid allowances of an unknown amount spread over the 3 impacted seasons). So, if we did nothing in this window we’d just about be okay. That’s my starting point. This is where it gets a bit more complicated, or rather than complicated, you have to understand what happens to the cost of a signing when they sign and the period of their contract. Let’s say we get £20m and assume we owe Guernsey Sweet FA. That’s £20m transfer profit in this year’s accounts. That means we are now £20m inside the FFP Limits for the cycle ending summer 2023. It also means that the cycle ending next season (summer 2024) we are miles inside too. We could go out and buy a £15m player on a 6 month deal and pay them £200k p.w for the rest of this season. That would eat up the £20m in 6 months and leave us inside FFP still. But what we would more sensibly do is: get in a few really strong loans at say £20k p.w. each / loan fee £0.5m. Would cost us £3m. Whilst we sit on the rest of the money until the summer, keeping our powder dry until we know for sure we are still in this division. buy a few players, say 3 x £3.5m on £15k p.w. On 3.5 Yr deals. Costs of £0.375m wages each and £0.5m each in amortisation this season. £2.625m in total this season, but the next 3 years we’d be committed to £0.75m wages x 3 and £1m amortisation x 3…total £5.25m. Over the 3.5 yrs those 3 would cost us circa £18m or bit of a mix of the above etc etc This is why I chuckle a bit when someone says “if we sell Scott for £20m he can spend half of it” (or whatever). It just doesn’t work like Football Manager led you to believe it did in their game 15 years ago! It’s all about looking at the total cost of players against projected incomes and budgets over a 3-5 year plan / forecast. I have some basic spreadsheets that attempt (poorly) to look at the player costs over a period of time. The football club will have much more complex stuff and ability to do “what-if” scenarios. So the real answer is - somewhere between some of it and all of it! Hope the above helps?

He appears not to have been involved in the process of recruiting the new CEO either…that was RG and Gavin Marshall’s responsibility. I very much suspect Fever Pitch is the “thing” he really likes doing and would happily just do that.

There was no mention when he exercised his own option last season that there was a further trigger this season…but that’s not to say there isn’t / wasn’t! From looking at the timing last season, it would seem to have been around the 30 appearance mark. As it stands he’s made 19 apps (5+14), so if it’s on round numbers, then he’s very close to 20. My gut feel is that 20 is too low. But I know nothing. As above…it could be the trigger of another year (not a payment to Derby).

My gut feel is that his rehab included whatever he needed (call it a mini-pre-season if necessary) to be ready to join back in with “proper” first team training, i.e. he won’t now be doing a pre-season. His readiness for selection in the first team is unknown, he’s certainly not going to be match sharp. Nige said ideally some minutes in u21s would be ideal, but who knows, he might need to go straight back in. That approach didn’t work last time, but in the past he’s come straight back in following injury, albeit not 9 months out in the past. edit: just re-read your post, think we are saying pretty much the same ?

Nobody is suggesting that. Nobody (certainly not Nige) is suggesting playing him in a different position just to “give him a game”, they are saying he might play in a particular position for the benefit of the team overall, because of injuries.

The big dilemma for OTIB: - is playing Naismith as a winger a case of square peg in round hole Answer: - if we win it won’t get mentioned - if we lose it will be a ridiculous decision. (obviously ignoring the fact that most if his career was as a wide man)

Just for clarity, yes they did have an FA Youth Cup tie yesterday (u18s), but their team had quite a bit of experience in it for an u21s, bar the 16 year old keeper (who was excellent) and Mafico. Ive added each player age to their line-up. We are regularly playing 16/17 year olds, e.g. Morrison, Knight-Lebel, Meerholz, etc in our u21s. Nige also says today that it was about getting minutes into some players legs.