Davefevs

Just now, petehinton said:

Sorry, was quite vague, don’t understand why (or how!) anyone can do it full time. 
 

Free lance or flexi, it must be the dream, like your situation sounds!

Predominately a young person’s game.

1 hour ago, TDarwall said:

Maybe we should crowd fund Fevs so he can do it but still afford to eat!

Announce Cauley Woodrow!

26 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

I known Man Utd’s head scout for the south west and south wales ‘ he’s on minimum wage plus expenses’ sounds glamorous but the hrs are shit and most of the lads he’s recommended utd haven’t even bothered to have a look at .

Yep, I’m pretty sure I know who you’re on about.

10 minutes ago, BigTone said:

What's on the menu ?

All I know is that when my son Joe went he stuffed himself silly!

25 minutes ago, Mattredrobin said:

Don't know if this has been asked anywhere...can Weimann play for West Brom in the play offs? 

Assume his loan was until 31.05

32 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I honestly don’t know why anyone would work in one of those roles in football. Or indeed any ops/media role in football, full time. 
 

The pay is absolutely horrendous, the hours are very unsociable, and you’re near enough working every day of the week. If you whittled down the terrible pay into hours actually worked, I wouldn’t bet against it being below living wage. 

Don’t forget…

• Breakfast & lunch on all training days via a personal contribution scheme
• Discount in the Bristol Sport store

Just now, BigTone said:

My floppy will remain private thank you very much !!

I heard it’s a condensed version!

1 minute ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Want to stand out? Take a box of 5 1/4 " floppies with you to your interview.

You bragging!

Just now, TV Tom said:

19 !!!!! That's nuts, can't remember him being a penalty taker, that would of been Denis Irein at the time

Yep, he was a pen taker….i based by pens on his style.  Place the ball, decide where I’m putting it, walk back facing away from the keeper, turn, run, shoot, no stopping first.

6 minutes ago, mozo said:

You sound like Tommy Conway 

Post of the day.

8 minutes ago, Hamdon Mart said:

Think you hit the nail on the head there. A little like scouting, you'd imagine every man and his dog fancies themselves as a scout but can they really do it at a professional club when stuff gets real?

Asking for too much on your CV will put a lot of people off. 

Exactly

7 minutes ago, Unan said:

I’m back doing a Computer Science bachelors at the big age of 29, Data Science is the field I’m looking to work in, this would be a dream job, but for the wages football pays, I’d never work in it!

Good on you mate.  Way too clever that stuff for me.  Good luck with it too.

I think you make a pertinent point - Data Science versus Football Analyst.  They are poles apart in skillset, activities and expectations...and therefore salary should align accordingly.  Yet, they seem to want Data Scientists for Football Analyst roles.  What City appear to need is people with a good football understanding who can film a match / training session and then pick out the key bits.

Recruitment analyst is different again.

1 hour ago, Fjmcity said:

?? Seems your reply is either trying to embarrass robbored or highlight a failing by the club (what a shock) robbored mostly likely heard that in the press conference but took note of the word “hope” and has then also noted that it is nearly the end of the week so takes a not unreasonable leap to suggest it will now be next week

Im Sure this is another lansdown failing should a restrospective press conference not be be called to clarify these comments and finally tell us the truth about when this list will be produced

Embarrass @Robbored, as he doesn’t like to speculate, but does exactly that.  He knows it, and we all play along with him.

Nothing to do with club, hierarchy, Manning, Pearson, Alan Dicks, Harry Dolman, purely a cheap dig at Mr “I always rely on the OS” Robinson.

Don’t be so sensitive / precious about your beloved BCFC / Hierarchy!

Just now, GrahamC said:

“Competitive”, my arse.

My team (of circa 100) pays around £27k as a starting salary to the most junior grade with this year’s pay award (due last month, but not settled with the unions yet) to come on top.

This amount isn’t competitive at all, it just strikes me as another attempt to do something important on the cheap.

Not forgetting they’ll probably bring in a couple of interns too.

10 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

They ask for quite a lot but then doesn't everyone these days!

This isn't the Lead Analyst but the one below.

Exactly the point I made above.  They ask a helluva lot for what circa 90% of the role will be filming, coding, saving to a database (admin tasks) and presenting to seniors.  Liam Manning does that whilst sat on an exercise bike!!!

1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said:

True - I noted salary was “competitive” which in recruiter speak normally means “not very much”. It’ll be probably in the 20ks tops which is madness - if you could get someone in the building on £50-£60k who was experienced and good, it’s a drop in the football finances ocean and has massive potential upside benefit for us.

Yeah, often amazes me what they see as “competitive”.  Someone on the inside said these are a £25-30k (ish) jobs.

When I look at the role specs and ditto at other clubs, I think they are looking for a multi-skilled person, but most of the things the person would do are more “junior” type activities with a smaller percentage “specialist”.  And that’s not to diss those junior activities either.  And from chatting to a ex-City analyst, he said that most of the stuff he did is trainable on the job, so why ask for the skills and qualifications they do.  I guess to filter out applicants.  But I think most clubs run small “analysis” departments and they are trying to cover too broad a range in a single job.

I was chatting to a Data Scientist who was working short-term at a local club back in March, and he was talking serious data stuff (way over my head)…that’s where the money is, basically bringing in consultant, modelling skills, etc.

It is probably the bigger clubs who can have a department big enough to have jobs specific for the task in hand…and therefore pay appropriately.

Its fascinating how the analysis focus has grown though.

5 minutes ago, Harry said:

In a normal world I’m sure @Davefevs would be an ideal candidate. But I’d imagine it pays minimum wage so would rule out anyone who’s not just left school. 
 

If only these jobs were available when I’d just finished studying Maths and Stats….30+years ago.  Then again, computers weren’t even that big a thing back then!

The salary will probably be in line with 30+ years ago too!

Great opportunities though for the right person(s).

4 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Manning explained at his last presser that the staff at AG ‘still have a lot to do’ and that includes finalising and releasing the retained list. 

I’m guessing but early next week?

Did you miss that he also said that he hoped to have retained list out by the end of this week???

4 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

RTV/BCFC don't set the price for RTV. It's set by the EFL so we don't undercut iFollow. 

So yes the price should reduce, but it's not up to BCFC.

Yep, I know that.

3 hours ago, old_eastender said:

So the EFL says:

"EFL clubs will be able to continue international streaming services direct to fans overseas, where matches are not being broadcast exclusively, enabling those based abroad the chance to watch their team's matches throughout the whole season"

 

I read that as meaning games shown on Sky, or Sky+, will NOT be able to be streamed for overseas. Which means at least 24 games which would not be available. IF that is correct then the price of an annual pass has to come down by about 50% surely...

 

My take on it is International viewers will not be able to watch games chosen for international broadcast.

and I’m assuming that the 155 exclusive Champ games mentioned above are the same 155 that get chosen by Sky (5 out of 12 each weekend / 31 weekends).  They could of course be a different 155???

If you have an RTV overseas subscription (whether genuinely abroad or via vpn), I imagine you won’t be able to watch them (the 155) on RTV…they’re expecting you to watch via a Tv channel in the country you live in, assume for many that will be a paid-tv sub, equivalent to sky here.

So, my gut feel is there will be less games on RTV next season.  Potentially 18/31 will still be shown on Saturday at 3pm and viewable via RTV as will the other 15 dates.  13 won’t!

Maths might be a bit dodgy, but that’s my reading of it.

Anyone any other thoughts

6 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

Spot on. Its even more annoying that anyone whose paid any attention to the way we are "governed" could have easily predicted that SL would not ultimately like the cut of NP's jib & it would end in tears.

If we were super ruthless you could say we used NP to get us out of a hole & jettisoned him ASAP after, however that infers a certain level of strategy & planning that I'm not sure we possess.

Too many are still making Nige v Liam.

Its two things:

1. The competence level of the hierarchy / board
2. Liam’s performance

These are two separate things.

Re 1. I can’t be arsed to go over the same ground!

Re 2. There is 30+ games of evidence for the debate to be a Liam debate.  There will undoubtedly be the odd cross-reference back to Nige, but in a league where the average manager tenor is a little over 12 months, you’ve got to be able to hit the ground running to some extent.  The recent run has got him to next season.  He gets his preseason, he gets his second transfer window.  The ups and downs, the changes in style mean that I go into the summer unclear as to how we come out of the summer into 2024/25 season.

The summer recruitment ranges from a simple - get a no9 and no10 in, everyone else we want remains / stays, to a complex summer if certain key players leave and need replacing, or they can’t get in the no9 and no10 they want.

14 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Manning isn't really the problem, or the cause of problems. The problem was/is he was supposed to be a continuity , someone who fitted the profile, who fitted the ideas and who would provide a seamless next step. 

Sadly the men charged with the task of spotting the next Coach , which we are told is an ongoing process so not to get caught out, don't have a clue. Then they double down with mistruths and made up stories trying to rewrite history.

Manning ideas were different from how we were playing, very different . 
Pearson had spoken about wanting to play more possession based football , the problem is he wasn't finished with the job so the hand over would never be seamless. 

Any Coach coming in would, pretty much be in the same situation. This is totally down to The Lansdowns' and Tinnion . If they had waited until the summer and Manning had a Pre-season it might not have been so messy a hand over, there wouldn't have been to split with fans opinion and it may have worked better. 

The only way out of this is either the owners have a massive reality check and employ people who not only know what they are doing, but are experienced and fit for purpose. 
Unlikely.

There is another way , but that involves them selling up and that is unlikely too. After 20 whatever years where time after time owner interference has stopped progression , you would think they would realise. From a real leader as Manager and a real CEO leading the Club, we now have a young Chairman completely out of his depth and with out a board to question and help , and a DoF who jumps petulantly on and off of Twitter to disclose things he never should.

Be interesting to know what proper Clubs think of us now.

Good summary.

The danger of soundbites without understanding what’s meant to underpin them.

6 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Thanks Dave so I’ll need RTV + a Sky subscription whereas previously I got by with just RTV 

It looks that way.  Can’t see RTV justifying the current price, but that’s not to say the price will reduce.

5 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Trying to figure out what this means for those of us with an annual RTV subscription.

The OS says, ‘This will effectively replace the EFL’s domestic streaming option provided via iFollow and club streaming services such as Robins TV.

Our audio-only commentary service will remain domestically through Robins TV, as well as audio and video streaming for overseas supporters.’

Assume the only video streaming available on RTV will be for non Sky games, in which case to continue to be able to watch all games from overseas will require a Sky subscription and a RTV subscription, is that correct?

Here you go:

Assuming those 155 are Saturday games (31 Saturdays), then 5 each Saturday will be live on tv.  Are these the ones that we normally see not available on RTV abroad?

1 hour ago, Leveller said:

Morrell not offered a new contrac by Pompey and seems to be on his way out.

Was in negotiations according to their retained list.  Has there been an update?

Just now, ExiledAjax said:

Hopefully now Sky have done their launch there can be some Comms from the EFL or the Club.

EFL and City have both posted stuff today.

16 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Hopefully so, as under the new Sky deal they are only obligated to show at least 28 games for each championship club, so that could be 18 not shown. Also if they are like 'red button' coverage with no replays and a single high-up camera, it's poor compared to RTV.

Already been confirmed it will be multi-camera…better than this season’s iFollow and therefore tonnes better than red button.