Natchfever

1 minute ago, chinapig said:

My comparison was with Phil Gartside, very

Fair do's mate

Not one of my favourite football people, and I recall with fondness when Martin Samuel ripped him a new one when he started promoting the idea of ringfencing.

2 minutes ago, chinapig said:

My mistake, apologies.

Derby are a bit of an unknown, depending on what players they bring in, having lost their loanees.

Morris has been gambling on promotion for more than the one season mind you. It is the cumulative effect of that that led to the ground sale to get them out of a hole of his making. If he gambles again and fails he doesn't have that fall back any more. It will be interesting to see how it pans out this year.

You could well be right about Morris but I would be pleased to finish above them next season personally.

15 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

You say that, but it was only last week people were saying we should spend 12 million on a striker

£12m isn't mental for a champ striker nowadays i'm afraid for any team aspiring to reach the promised land.

Not saying he should spend that, but if he wanted to he most certainly could. Comparing Bury and Bolton owners to ours was plain daft in my opinion.

29 minutes ago, chinapig said:

I'm afraid not, FFP is designed to prevent  owners simply pouring their money directly into fees and wages.

Steve has done that in the past and it ended in relegation. Phil Gartside did the same at Bolton and look at the state they are in. If you were a Bolton fan would you have been cheering him on?

Morris isn't a good example as he gambled and failed. Not a role model for anybody I would think.

Of course if you aren't bothered if we get into financial trouble again and have to sell assets to pay the bills that's a different matter. Personally I prefer a more responsible approach that doesn't put the club at risk.

Silly response you should read posts more carefully

I said Steve could spend if he wanted to but I wasn't one of those asking for it.

He most certainly did not spend big in the past just allowed a succession of crap managers to spend badly.

I suspect Derby will finish above us next season incidentally and Morris is in for the long haul so missing promotion in May 19 isn't a disaster.

8 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Will those of our fans who demand that we spend money we don't have and accuse Steve of using FFP as an excuse take note I wonder?

The club is owned by Steve who has shedloads of money unlike the people involved at either Bury or Bolton. Mel Morris has stuck two fingers up at FFP legally it appears.and whilst I don't see many demanding that Steve splashes the cash (i'm certainly not), the fact is whether you like it or not, he could if he really wanted to.

1 hour ago, Gert Mare said:

I’ve done it before...leave it with me....

My hero.

3 hours ago, Gert Mare said:

Does it have the Altrincham game on it!? Extended highlights of the ‘back of the net’ player punching at Braintree? Singing “Come on Eileen” in the rain during a 1-0 defeat away to the mighty Forest Green? Footage of the thousands of locked out fans at Woking? What about the “gas are staying up” celebrations at Wycombe? 

Surely the title should be “Blue Few - Journey back to the basement”. 

Arrrghhhh SNAKE! 

 

C'mon tecchies, someone must be out there who can edit that DVD cover to take in Gert's suggestions !

1 hour ago, Gert Mare said:

They were not in the video because as we know they are racists who attack horses, and they refused point blank to be involved in anything where there were ‘Gert Ted’s’ and ‘Anyone wearing red’. They would have ended up causing trouble followed by playing the victim. So they ended up in their own Neanderthal circle on a different planet. 

Oh I don't know, they were massively supportive of Bristol's World Cup bid.. oh hold on...

11 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

Inevitably!

 

"Good to be playing against Bristol Rovers today, on my way down. Proper club #brfc are, #gasheads are proper top notch folk. As for #BristolCity...their fans are proper sad, strange folks desperate to relegate us a couple of years ago. Ashton Gate smells like poo as well."

mangogas15

Read more: http://gasheads.org/thread/8308/bcfc-sellout#ixzz5uRWPJnMX

Well this bogus Brummie must have cherished his two visits to play the famous quarterz in the past 20 years then unless he's neighbours with a load on a caravan site down Brean.

I expect they are on the Brum forum asking if they like them more than us too.

2 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Bracing themselves?  Give me strength......

Be fair. They are skint and the cost of dentistry is significant so not surprising they would go down the DIY route..

13 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

And then string them along for a bit letting them think they have a chance of using the site before saying `Nah. **** it, I`m building student flats on it`

I actually wish SL would buy them via some third party then sell the ground to get the purchase price back and send them to Twerton "whilst projects are being explored"

Then **** off into the sunset.

5 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said:

Go on Steve, you know you want to.

Steve should buy the Fruit Market thats what some are pinning their hopes on. Now that would be funny as ****.

10 hours ago, redsquirrel said:

isn't it something to do with them having a percentage of citys catchment area due to them being partially surrounded by the sea?

seem to recall this being discussed not too long ago and must have been on here as I don't go on other forums

 

This was certainly the case in the late 90's. To be fair they didn't get the all of the cream though as City's age groups would regularly spank them.

17 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Inside the peanut brain of the average Saghead it probably seems totally believable that a children’s party would be held inside a Wine Bar? I’ve got kids and I can think of better places for a 10th birthday party 

I wasn’t present but I thought it was the Forest fans who ran in there after realising they’d bitten off more than they could chew? 

Pretty sure no City fans were targeting kids, that’s more of a Gas thing to do.

In a nutshell correct.

1 minute ago, BCFC11 said:

Another day, another lie........

 

Don’t forget attacking our players and attacking a childrens party in Nottingham - just a vile lot

This is the Amici incident I presume. Of course they line up to get autographs of Boatsy Clarke when he's in Bristol so they would believe any such shite wouldn't they.

50 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

Here's another saggie on facebook, telling anyone who will listen, how special their support is. It's now 46,000 that went to the Millenium Stadium! Is it just me, or does that number creep up every year? How long before it's 50k?

And how many went to Wembley for their non league final? Any official figures given anywhere, because I'm almost certain it was quite a bit less than 30k.

59,000 attended the Donny game in Cardiff so did the real Rovers only bring 13,000 fans ??

47 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

I would be interested to know just how wide your social circle would need to be to meet three people that moved to Bristol for work, decided to go to both Bristol clubs before choosing one to follow and then all chose the ramshackle bunch.

That Henbury bloke must meet a lot of people!

The comment was ridiculed and challenged by a few of them to be fair.

16 hours ago, Judda said:

I know. Got a Bolton fan pal. Feel for them all... not like the Glory days of Jay Jay Ocotcha (so good they named him twice) etc...

I bet all Bolton fans were protesting about the way the club was run when they were in the Prem though..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1226177/MARTIN-SAMUEL-One-problem-franchise-idea-Phil-Gartside-No-place-Bolton.html

5 hours ago, Miah Dennehy said:

Why not? Ryanair is probably the best option to get to Ireland flying from Bristol. If it was City would you prefer that they hired a private jet?

No but Aer Lingus less likely to cancel on you aren't they.

43 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Sounds like you know a fair bit about this stuff, valuation, methodology etc.

Intrigued to know your take on £81.1m for Pride Park and especially in an RPT such as that.

I haven't undertaken asset valuations for donkeys years Mr P, I deal with commercial property acquisitions, disposals and everything in between i'm afraid so can't comment on the valuation, particularly as I have no idea whether it was the stadium solely or associated leisure outlets etc, but I would say that the oft quoted figure of £1m per 1,000 seats is woefully outdated and fails to properly account for facilities within stadia,anyone putting their name to a valuation of £81m would have to be qualified to do so, and further, when you consider the costs of stadia coming out of the ground elsewhere recently, I think it would probably be very difficult to challenge the sale price.

Interesting stuff about Aberdeen's 20,000 capacity stadium https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/aberdeen-fc/donsnews/cost-of-stadium-to-rise-to-45-50m/

On 01/07/2019 at 14:42, downendcity said:

Ive said previously that with Derby and Villa it seems to me that the valuation figures were just what the club wanted ( and needed) them to be.

Football stadia are not like residential properties, in that there is no established and active market in sales of stadia so no market comparable exist. This being the case it would be tricky for a valuer to be challenged about the accuracy of his/her valuation, which is why I suspect Villa and Derby have been so financially "successful" with the sale of their grounds. 

I studied professional valuation in my younger days, but never got into practice. There are a few valuation principles I can recall but don't want to quote them on here in case my memory is a bit hazy or if valuation practices are different these days. 

 

 

Depreciated replacement cost.

"The DRC method is a form of cost approach that is defined in the RICS Valuation – Global Standards 2017 (RB Global) Glossary as: ‘The current cost of replacing an asset with its modern equivalent asset less deductions for physical deterioration and all relevant forms of obsolescence and optimisation. The DRC method is based on the economic theory of substitution. Like the other forms of valuation it involves comparing the asset being valued with another. However, DRC is normally used in situations where there is no directly comparable alternative"

The DRC method may be used for the valuation of specialised property, which is defined in the RB Global Glossary as: ‘A property that is rarely, if ever, sold in the market, except by way of a sale of the business or entity of which it is part, due to the uniqueness arising from its specialised nature and design, its configuration, size, location or otherwise.’ 

This is the RICS approach so gospel and often applied to public buildings.

1 hour ago, hodge said:

And the 23's/18's....

To be fair you can see the link between 1st team and U23s and 18s

35 minutes ago, EnderMB said:

It makes total sense. In the same way that a boxing card between Fury and Wilder will have an undercard, I don't see why Bristol City matches don't have an undercard.

Let the fans into the stadium early, let them watch the women play. Have a break for a while for people to get a drink, take a dump, etc - then start the men's game. If you don't give a shit about women's football, then it's easy to avoid - come a bit later.

The only issue I can see with this, and it's the kind of thing that I think would be overlooked, is whether this causes issues with the pitch. Will 90 minutes of football before another 90 minutes damage the pitch?

Rather watch the under 18's.

Better quality and more relevant as hopefully be watching future first teamers.

Swansea have short memories to be fair.

12 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

One of my T-shirts has arrived for my holiday with my family Gashead member.....

Iconic