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Just now, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

Says who? 
you? 
you can’t please everybody so if only a handful of people complain but the vast majority couldn’t give to shits and this includes the players and staff in the video why is being made into such a big deal?

Ah, the great “I’m alright jack” attitude.

Racism only affects a small portion of the UK population, does that not matter either? 

Covid only kills a small % does that not matter? 

There’s a massive list of what only affects a small %, that many don’t care about, that doesn’t mean it’s ok.

What a wonderful outlook you have. 

8 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Probably because someone proposed a meeting in the toilets just across the road from AG:

https://twitter.com/00BAR2/status/1455192364855742473

Do you really think that you're going to get a club response on here? If you've got an issue, make a formal complaint - you're being beyond naive if you expect some kind of disciplinary trial to take place on here with an audience/baying mob.

Fair enough, didn’t see the toilet comment. 

A lot of you are completely failing to see the point, why does a formal complaint have to be made? It’s clearly not acceptable. 

He’s even replied to one comment with

”I don’t meet men in toilets, it’s not my style”

@JerrySLO I’ve seen you have been online since I tagged you, is this honestly the professional level Bristol sport expects? I’m genuinely bemused they think it’s acceptable for an employee to be like this on social media. 

9 minutes ago, HitchinRed said:

I’m still confused who is supposed to be offended by this:

a) the rugby team for having a video of them topless circulated on twitter

b) the ruby team for having someone leer and comment at their semi naked bodies

c) the rest of the world for having it brought to their attention than a homosexual man might like the look of another man’s muscular body?

if it were to happen the other way around, with a video circulated from the Ladies changing rooms, I’m sure the comments on Twitter would have been a lot more direct.

So it’s fine for an employee of Bristol sport, to sexualise in public other employees of Bristol sport? Or anyone else for that matter.

Just as it’s male on male shouldn't matter, it’s exactly the same. 

45 minutes ago, Taz said:

I couldn't care less to be honest, whether it's about his sexuality or the actual post/tweet.

There's a lot of people getting offended on behalf of other people, but in this day and age I can't say I'm overly surprised.

Is it really that different though to a video of a promotion winning team celebrating in the dressing rooms afterwards? The times we've seen that through the years with players running around in their pants, there is no comparison really.

The suggestive comments from Downsy however, probably in hindsight shouldn't have been included. If it weren't for those, I doubt much would be being mentioned about it.

Your last part, of course it wouldn’t be, as he wouldn’t be sexualising other employees/humans. 

You are basically saying, it’s fine for a male to do that on other males, but not males on other females etc. 

12 minutes ago, CheddarReds said:

The emoji is often used to communicate that you think someone is attractive. So in the context it seems that Downsey is saying that about the rugby players. 

I think some people are frustrated because they feel that if a straight male employee did the same thing about female Bristol Sport athlete's the straight employee's post would be challenged on it more seriously. 

However, I doubt many men are actually offended by Downsy being attracted to the rugby players, as I think @Fordy62 is saying. 

Hasn’t this hit the nail on the head though, how does/did he know it’s offensive to the players or other people will find it offensive? 

Its the same as joey with his holocaust comments, its pretty clear he didn’t mean it in that context but he shouldn’t of said it to begin with. 

5 minutes ago, Super said:

Why are you so offended by this? Genuine question.

Offended isn’t the correct word, how can any employee (free lancing or not), openly sexualise other employees or anyone for that matter to be suitable? 

If you did the same to female employees (or male if you are that way inclined) at your work, how would that go down? 

3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

It’s undoubtedly inappropriate, but I’m not offended by it. 

If it were semi naked women in the same scenario there would be outrage.

Why should it make any difference is it’s a men or women in the video? 

What Leveller has said is completely correct, is a tweet like that on as downsy is a gay male? 

If the presenter of robins tv during home games, I can’t remember his name, tweeted a picture of a female player with emojis that wouldn’t be ok, would it?

Guys it’s pretty obvious what Henry was saying, and that tweet isn’t suitable for someone employed by Bristol sport.

Downsy homosexuality doesn’t come into play here in the context really, if he tweeted unsuitable emojis for women players it still wouldn’t be suitable. 

Or is this ok as they are male, so sexual harassment etc doesn’t count?  

Or is it ok, as downsy is a homosexual male and they are male also? 

Looking at one of his replies to his tweet when someone put “deary me downsy”,

he put 

“sorry babes. You’re just not my type” . 

@JerrySLO Is this really suitable from a Bristol sport employee to be sexualising other employees? 

27 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I think the voucher code (2 4 1)  offer may have had an effect, and perhaps shows there is an audience out there at a particular price point.

 

Yes to be fair my comments (apart from the "how shit must you be" stuff) was more of a response to the annoying negativity from other posters. The stuff about shouting down other chants was more about previous seasons so I take that back. I am right on the edge of the singing section but even from there, myself or others around us have prompted some chants. It's something I have often found fascinating, why sometimes an individual shout will become a chant and yet often it can just fall on deaf ears. I'll bet there is a paper somewhere that someone has done for their dissertation sometime on just that phenomena.  

Port Said, I am in s25 and have been since fans were allowed back there as a “singing area”, I can honestly say I’ve heard other chants no more than about 10 times. 

I don’t think it’s people not Joining in, it’s more people aren’t aware of any songs. 

It’s a bit like myself saying, the away fans are awful you rarely hear them. It’s clear they are singing, I can physically see it, but from where I stand you never hear them, yet according to others they are louder than city fans etc. 

1 hour ago, Pezo said:

aspKsAs someone relatively new to the "new" EE having moved there this season it's quite an interesting place and not what it seems from the outside. There's no shouting down of others chants, you can't hear any of them TBH - there seems to be about 5 different places songs start from in the corner and at any one time the EE might have 3 different songs going at the same time, it's really only the drum or megaphone that brings it all together. If your outside you would only hear the ones that get to 3 or more of these smaller groups.

I don't think anyone in there thinks of themselves as superfan, that would be something others project on to them because they are the noisy singers, from what I have seen they mostly like having fun, want to create/enjoy the atmosphere and want to enjoy the football (mostly in that order).

Booing other parts of the ground is stupid but it's very much part of the type of humour I think - tongue in cheek, self depreciation, gallows humour much like the "how shit must you be" song but in the context of the order of preference of fun, atmosphere then football it kind of makes sense if a bit counter productive, same as the same Joey Barton songs 5 mins into the game.

Having moved there from the middle of the SS I certainly prefer it to having some obnoxious moaning old bloke sat behind me that thought he was the next next Andy Gray but knew **** all about football. Despite the results this season I have always walked away having enjoyed myself more if also a little horse.

Pezo, you sum it all up perfectly for that area, it’s the same now as it was when the east end was reopened with that “image”. 

In reality it’s nothing like what people assume, even the booing people take seriously for some reason.

1 hour ago, VT05763 said:

Looked a better side than us, with a game plan and minus the talented individuals.

Which has ended up in getting him the sack, after winning 6% of his games? 

5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

What’s the point though in a way? After selling players Barnsley are a poor outfit on a very tight budget, will very likely get relegated whoever is in charge and all you are doing is paying another manager to get them relegated plus gardening leave to the one you should have left in place to get them relegated.

He had a win percentage of 6% , I’m pretty sure I could win 6 out of every 100 games as a championship manager. 

7 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Well it certainly made a change that all the crowd joined in with them, rather than the East End shouting them down with their own chants like kids throwing their toys out of the pram. 

While we're at it, it pisses me off when they ask other parts of the ground to bounce around, and then boo them no matter how well they respond. ******* "superfans".

Oh and while I am on a roll, I think they have been responsible for this bad run of results by tempting fate every time we have been winning. You all know what I mean........

"How shit must you be we're winning at home" ..........

Cue the equaliser/winner from the opposition. 

Shock horror, atmosphere improves when everyone makes an effort. 

Well I’ll be damned. 

Not exactly rocket science is it, a handful of lads trying in a corner of the ground most games, as you have proven if others make an effort too, instead of being sat in complete silence most games the difference is massive.

Not really anything to do with super fans is it, it’s always been the same. 

2 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

I was quite emotional, there seemed to be a real belief that we could win just through sheer force of will, it's worth noting that some of the chants were being started by the South Stand section behind the goal rather than the "East End", The One Step Beyond moment as we were leaving was excellent, I had a little dance with one of the stewards, it was a such a feeling of relief more than anything else.

Blimey, other people starting chants.

shall we get the medals out?

7 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

This is dreadful. Imagine losing 1-0 to this shower of shit and having their fans take the piss 

 

It’s what our fans want, how many posts has their been about a couple of people slapping each other after a game. 

Our fans are quite literally happy for away teams to come here, and take the piss on and off the pitch. 

39 minutes ago, hollydog said:

I love Loftus Road. Proper ground bang in the community. My view is that the Council should do all they can to help relocate them locally. Other Councils do much to support their club eg Exeter City Council bought St James Park to keep the club afloat. Councils have a duty to support the culture in their area. 

Comparing Exeter city, with QPR, laughable.

8 minutes ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

So you’re saying because they’ve had better recent histories it’s ok they’ve almost bust?

I’m pretty sure the majority of fans would take their recent history over ours, even with their money issues. Most of those clubs are not too far off us, and everyone of them still have a club to support.

6 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Fact is, even trying to stick to the rules, without SL we actually would be bust now. 

We wouldn’t though would we.

3 minutes ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

Portsmouth, Bolton, Wigan and notts County? For starters Cardiff got problems forest had them too? 

Wigan , Portsmouth, Bolton, Cardiff, 

All Clubs who have had much much better recent history than us the last 20 years. 

Ill give notts county although their admin was years ago. 

Forest have been failures really for years much like us

1 minute ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

Exactly you want us to chuck even more money at it with no guarantee of success, you’ve named 2 clubs who gambled and got lucky, what about the countless others who aren’t so lucky?

How many haven’t been so lucky? 

Bury? The list is pretty short really

1 minute ago, 54-46 said:

I did enjoy myself “in my day”. Still do tbh. 

No problem with “the youth” either. 

Guilty - wife, kids the lot.  

Not entirely sure wtf any of that has to do with taking exception to an annoying ***** who thinks he can sit / stand where he wants when I’ve bothered to organise a booking for a group of me and my mates to be located together at a match though?  

My point being, transport yourself back to their age, I imagine you might had been like them. 

Then transport them to your age now, and they will be saying the same.

6 minutes ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

You’re the one advocating breaking FFP like Wednesday and Derby so we can make it to the Premier league! I’d rather build an sustainable based and grow steadily towards!  

Sustainable, have you see the losses we have? The losses every club have?

Break FFP such as , QPR, Bournemouth etc. 

Bournemouth, a team that basically ripped us apart recently, a team many would had classed as tinpot compared to us, one we used to easily take 40% of the crowd to. A team that has simply walked past us like so many others.

Im glad our sustainable method has only taken 30+ years to get top flight football. 

At this rate I might see it before retirement 

10 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said:

Sorry everyone should just sit in there hands all game like you then . Never known a clubs fan base like it ,must be something in the water down here .

Yet the same people wonder why we keep failing as a club, get battered on and off the pitch by everyone. 

3 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

All would be so much easier if City sold two classes of ticket.

One for the block directly behind the goal, unreserved, stand when you've paid to sit, don't worry if you can't see half the game because you're pi**ed up on your phone, apparently would rather be anywhere but at the match. Let's call it the 'Fu*kWit ticket'.

The outer blocks, for fans who enjoy and understand football, who would like to be there given the time and expense already incurred in doing so, the type of folks who not only might recognise a library when they see one but have historically entered one or more in their time. Let's call that the 'Here For The Football Ticket'.

It's pretty much what happens already.

Ah, the good old super fan mentality.

You tell others how they should watch a football game. 

#superfan

1 hour ago, 54-46 said:

If I’m attending a match with a group of 8-10 of us I expect to be able sit together in the seats I bothered to book together

Not be told by some Stone Thailand wearing, coked up little **** on his only big day out of the season “sit where you want mate innit”

Being serious, what were you like in your youth? 

Nearly every generation bar the ones the last 20 years had someone to attach themselves too, kids don’t anymore. 

Skins, mods, rockers, punks, casuals etc. 

You genuinely sound like one of the blokes who enjoyed themselves in their day, now are getting older and resent the youth.

The Same as “the atmosphere and football isn’t like it was in my day” 

In reality, life has got in the way, you got a wife at home, kids, a mortgage and you don’t enjoy it as much anymore, your no longer 17 with no pressures in life.