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33 minutes ago, Glen hump said:

If it sells out that doesn’t make it right, I understand your logic but the prices are shitting on the average punter 

What's an average punter nowadays?

The game has completely changed and the average punter imo wants tens of millions spent on players and then a boat load more on a Stadium, and usually without wanting it to be paid for out of their own pocket.

And yes those prices do seem extortionate to us, but no more than our prices to many lower league clubs I doubt.

46 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said:

I believe he used to be the Jordanian Jigsaw Champion so this makes sense ...

 

 

 

 

He's just telling them that they are not getting a new Stadium, and this is the best plan ever... 

36 minutes ago, ukneil said:

Anybody have a stream...

 

To somewhere in the multiverse where City win at home?

Thanks in advance. 

https://sports-10.com/bristol-city-v-plymouth/

10 minutes ago, petehinton said:

So R Joe refuses to do a press conference if anyone from Bristol Live is in attendance, meaning all media miss out…. what a shallow little man

The post should turn up to every single one on that basis, then let their fans moan they don't get anything without paying their own manager for information about their club.

He's like a little petulant child.

Neville talking about equality, after he happily took a shed load of cash from the Qataris.....

Twitter is a cesspit full of absolute morons who just need/want attention.

How anyone even thinks it is representative of society in general is beyond me.

11 minutes ago, GeoTheCiderHead said:

One of the best comments ever - and not from an excited fan, an actual employee. It's as if he expected nobody to be able to actually see what they done.... Yet they still listen to this bloke as a truth teller who would never lie to the bestest fans in the World.

8 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:

Wally has provided an update on all of the recent cock ups.

There is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to take.....

 

 

Everyone knows he was telling porkies back then and surely a huge red flag as he mentioned "as soon as we have something concrete people will know".

He's only ever purchased plastic and canvas since he has been there.

I'm wondering if Wally has done a bit of a brown envelope business deal with the developers, he then sells the majority of his shares to some gullible bloke on the "nearly completed stadium deal" that will bring them untold fortunes, and then bang, "sorry pal, I cannot believe it's fell through".

47 minutes ago, thatcham red said:

 

Yep, I was there. my mate got hit in the head with a coin. Cracking atmosphere. And that Motson commentary.......

Still some tickets available on our site by the way.

I'm sure that was where we got off the train and collared by the old bill and taken to an away pub, atmosphere in there was amazing though and the floor was actually bouncing. they must have taken an absolute fortune in a few hours. 

9 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Really?  And there’s Swansea thinking they should have had a point if penalty given (by same Ref)

And there are City fans thinking they should have had a man advantage long before that even happened, therefore it wouldn't have happened with some competent refereeing in the first place....

Just saying...

3 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said:

Not expecting us to produce a shot on target today let alone any goals judging by what we've seen so far this season.  I guess the sheep are going to have more excitement than we are.

Close prediction.

9 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

I stand by my criticism of fans blaming the Ref etc.  So 1950s don’t you feel ? Other more balanced views on Otib do not support the view Ref was wrong on our discounted goals.

For goodness sake smell the coffee.  We don’t have a striker in the fit squad, unless Yeboah turns out to be a teenage prodigy.  I bet Nige would have brought one in if the owner was showing the slightest interest in the club.  That is where people’s frustration truly lies not with a Ref.

Plenty are not moaning about the goals being disallowed FFS.

Are you actually watching it?

12 hours ago, alexukhc said:

21 out of contract and about to retire, the youngsters they have get sent away on loan and never return

I wonder what their wage bill is versus last season? They must be losing even more money and no other revenue streams, and they're not even really investing in any players for the future with resale value.

Imagine them going up and needing another new squad, and also on Championship wages, how will they get the players in, and how will FFP work with them. Their top earner must be around 3-4k now.
 

Just now, Davefevs said:

Blige!

A few will be fuming reading that....

5 minutes ago, ChrisBW said:

Where did I say that we didn’t create our own chances? 

You have constantly said Hull had best chances (they really never), could've won it TWICE (they really couldn't have), listed their chances to tell us all how apparently great they were etc etc. If you are a City fan then I would be actually shocked how anyone can be so negative after that overall very decent performance. If you really are a City fan and are this negative after a performance like that then I suggest you get another hobby.

I'll tap out now.

2 minutes ago, ChrisBW said:

-they scored, they hit the post, twine free kick, Connolly missed 1-1 and max save from him on the angle. Pretty clear and obvious.

Wells just offside for an equaliser, Williams should've scored, Sykes, Knight header, Wells overhead kick, Cornick (probably should've passed imo).

I guess they don't count and we should've just conceded all of your examples. Jeez.

I've never seen anyone post so negatively after an overall decent performance, come from a goal down away from home, and one where if one of the teams deserved to get the 3 points it was us.
 

1 minute ago, ChrisBW said:

You seem to be getting previous games confused with tonight’s fixture.

Are you really a City fan?

I mean we have some negative posters on here, but **** me you seem to be on another level. Could've conceded 4 or 5, Hull missed best chances, Hull could've won it twice. 

Did you watch the game looking at the radio?

17 hours ago, italian dave said:

I think it will, as others have said, royally piss off the planning officers and councillors. But ultimately I don't believe that the planners can do otherwise than consider the application on its merit. In other words, they can't refuse something that would otherwise get consent, just because it's already built. 

Not least because they'd only lose on appeal.

 

They should refuse the planning and make them go to appeal just for the attitude they have shown towards everyone involved from the residents to the planners.

Plus it would be funny.

34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

This is a “safer bet” than George Thomason.  We even get to give him back if it doesn’t work out.

What’s not to like?

I love this type of deal, you get to know what he's like on and off the pitch, what he brings or doesn't bring, and can send him back and option to buy with an already agreed fee. As long as he isn't a Tomlin (and nothing to show he is), then it's a great deal imo. 

2 minutes ago, Spike said:

You mean the guy that came on and arguably helped us create so much better and then supplied the long throw that led to the goal?

Also made an important block at 0-0 last week before our winner. 

Other than that though, some very sad people need to have someone they can direct their anger at, it seems they want that person to be Cornick regardless of his contribution.

19 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

GDPR (as enshrined via the Data Protection Act 2008) also contains public interest exemptions including where the data is shared for the prevention or detection of unlawful acts.

So how do bookies get away with passing personal information to other bookies of punters that are simply beating them but doing nothing unlawful?

The same with photos being passed around, albeit only within that company, I guess this is actually legal?

3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

For all I know this lad might be a decent player but like before he’s the fourth youngster to join on loan from a Prem club (2 from Brentford, 1 from Chelsea) to go with a collection of Dad’s Army signings in Friend (36 in October), Wilson (34), Hunt (33 before the year is out) & Sinclair (34).

I know some above are arguing that the hatred that exists (& I do hate them) is blinding judgement on here but trying to be dispassionate does this really seem like a recipe for success? A load of here today, gone tomorrow kids & a collection of veterans who Wilson aside weren’t playing at their previous clubs.

It does look a weaker league this season & Stevenage doing so well emphasises that, but whilst they probably will be top ten (no achievement based on the money they are committing to compared to many in their league), I just can’t see them going up.

That’s also before we get to the elephant in the room of infrastructure, no club at our level plays in a ground as ramshackle & embarrassing as theirs, new “stand” in 2024 or not, as the case may be.

Let's just say they do manage to get up this season, then where do they stand?

They will have hardly any players as you have stated, old ones will be gone, young ones will be gone back. They then have to try and buy players capable or even get some freebies, do they even know what the wage costs are for the Championship? They will not be getting any more revenue this season than last season, they have no other revenue streams in that effort of a stadium, so how do they pay for a promotion and just one season in the Championship? They will end up with even more debt and the cycle continues the year after. Add in the fact they don't really have any players worth a fortune so not really got anything to trade, and no youngsters from the academy going through their ranks.

They may well have a good season, they may even surprise and get promoted, but whatever happens they will be getting into a hell of a lot more debt, and how much more will the owners keep ploughing in?

2 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

For this to come out in the way it has, surely Betway would have to be pretty certain of dodgy dealings?

I would say he probably is screwed as naming him from their point of view is surely a bit of a risk, but I was  just pointing out that the same thing happens all the time with the bookies claiming all sorts of stuff, and doing what they can to void bets. I mean how do they know the people betting are connected to the player, how would they? Unless they all have the same surname, family name, agent name - if they have then they really are dumb? They may well have all the evidence they need, I'm certainly not saying they haven't.

1 hour ago, prankerd said:

I know for footballers its against the rules to bet on football but surely these betting companies must have gdpr rules in place?  Like with ivan toney, surely his betting history is his private data? 

Seems it benefits them i guess to get their money back from scams like paqueta but seems like they shouldnt be sponsering football in the first place surely?

I work in a bookies and the government seem to be working on killing all shops to help safer gambling, yet dont seem bothered about the online side because it makes so much profit and tax for them.

I don't know how they stand with GDPR rules in general, because they will happily pass on customers information between different firms and will send cctv photos around their own shops of people they don't want betting with them (assume the internal photo sending is legal though).

Bookies want it all one way, I struggle to get £10. £20 on a horse race but how much can I have on the slots, roulette, blackjack etc - as much as I want. Plenty of stories out there where they wait until the result of a race, football match etc and then they void them for "betting patterns". Betfred and the Accrington Stanley game from a few years ago spring to mind as .

We are also at the point where you try to withdraw winnings and then they want you to take selfies with your passport etc or they won't pay you, It's all for verification purposes, yet they don't ask when you are giving them the money in the first place. I have no issue with identification of everyone before they take a bet but not after, now some have to prove where the income comes from and it makes no sense with the actual rules they use.

I don't think the sponsorship is the worst thing, it's the adverts before, during and after the games that rake in the money and gets people hooked and people betting in the pubs whilst drinking.

Initial analysis showed that on that day several new accounts were created at Betway, account linked with people close to Paqueta, with users depositing the maximum amount allowed. These accounts made a married bet to increase the winnings: the authors would only receive the money if Paquetá took yellow against Villa and if the striker Luiz Henrique, from Betis, received the card against Villarreal, on the same day on March 12.

As a betting man who has had some fairly decent wagers over the years, that statement is just something all betting firms would use, and it looks worse to someone looking in. How does Betway even know these people are close to the player - same Country, agents, friends names, social media? As for the maximum stakes allowed, I would say with a new account the limits would be tiny, nobody would be getting on tens of thousands, be lucky to get a couple of hundred on. It could easily be someone who had a view on a bet and to get anything fairly decent on, multiple accounts are used (but still only one punter). I used to bet the same horses with about 25 different accounts, nothing dodgy on the betting front so to speak, just to try and get the money on. 

Not to say he isn't guilty mind, but Betway would have systems in place to pick up any strange betting activity and could easily void the bets before they even start, I would guess they let them all run hoping they would either lose and keep the money, or wait and if they won then they void the bets and not payout any winnings.