Tim Monaghan

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Absolute legend. Thanks for everything you have done for us, Steve.

32 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

It stands for "Expected Goals".

In brief - each shot taken by a team is given a score of between 0 and 1. The closer to 1 it is, the more likely it is to result in a goal. The score a shot is given is derived from analysis of thousands of historical games at all levels.

For example a penalty will get an xG score of about 0.78 because history shows that about 78% of penalties are scored. A speculative long range shot might only register 0.01 because only about 1% of that type of shot ever goes in.

Essentially it's a refinement of just looking at how many shots or shots on target a team takes, so allowing us to pick out anomalies. Preston are a great example right now. They've been recording 0-0 results with alarming frequency, but their xG scores are pretty normal. That suggests that it's not an impotency of attack that is depriving them of goals but bad luck, good goalkeeping, or a combination of those factors.

Thanks for this, that was a really interesting read. 

5 minutes ago, harrys said:

Too answer your question, no he is not one of the most over-rated players we’ve had (for that I give you Marlon Pack) on his day he reminds me of the one and only Gerry Gow, there is no greater compliment than that

Gerry Gow. That's a big call @harrys

36 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

"Woke gone mad" is it really? Don't be silly. 

I would suggest to @Ghost Rider that he wants a stimulating debate rather a slanging match, then perhaps avoid using emotive terms like "most overrated player in Bristol City history", the use of absolutes like "never" or "always" and resorting to comments on a players looks rather than his ability.

Thank you for your suggestion @Port Said Red. I'll try and change my writing style in the future to try and create a more stimulating debate, although I think I'll stick to reading in the future though as the welcome I've had so far from fellow fans has been a bit unnecessarily aggressive.

7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Are you sure? You're style and use of terminology seems very familiar and doesn't strike me as a newcomer.

I'm not sure what a newcomer should sound like? I've been supporting Bristol City for 30 years and reading the forum since covid, so yeah. Not sure what else to say really 

8 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said:

Massengo might not play 10/10 every game (he wouldn't be here if he did) but his ability to to hurry teams to play the ball because he chases them down is very underrated. He forces errors especially against teams who don't like quick passing moves.

Yeah, he is like a Jack Russell chasing a ball at times. I don't mean that in a horrible way, as like you've pointed out some teams / players dont like to be pressed so it can be effectively. 

1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

And yet other young players are allowed and even expected to be inconsistent, I think some forget his age because he has been around so long. He also could have been carrying a knock in the last couple of games, none of us know. 

As long as Pearson keeps picking him, despite his contract situation, that suggests to me that he values him more than some and definitely more than the OP.

Exactly, and that's why it's an interesting debate and why I like having them. At the end of the day, I trust Pearsons more than I do my own and I will go with that. 

It's just interesting to hear people's views, and that's what I love about the game. It's just a shame some people get so angry about it. 

Just now, P'head Red said:

Think it's more the fact that this debate had been done to death, with people having valid points on both sides of the argument. 

That's fair enough. I've not been on the forum for long. Feel free to shut the thread down mods, I don't want to upset people. 

4 minutes ago, Shuffle said:

I personally like HNM and feel that he is mobile, technically very good and has the ability to go go far in the game. However, the number 1 issue that will always cause this debate is lack of consistency. His performances against Luton and Cardiff were very good & then he follows that with anonymous displays against Wycombe and Blackpool. Whilst young in age, he has enough match experience  for us to expect a higher level of consistency.

Would personally always have him in my starting 11 but can understand the frustration. 

 

 

He is definitely mobile, and technically can be good at times, but like you've said it's the consistency. I think his decision making is wrong more often than not which is a concern. 

All about opinions though I guess and I'm certainly not saying mine is right.

7 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Yes resurrect one of the previous HNM threads and use that, rather than starting a new one.

I didn't realise you could do that. So please accept my apologies. 

I'm a bit confused as to why you're being so rude though. Are you okay? 

1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said:

Let's compare him to Semenyo, who is 18 years older.

In 2019-20, Semenyo really struggled to make an impact on this level.

By 2020-21, he was playing reasonably regularly and producing moments of excitement but was wildly inconsistent, many thought he was not good enough and he struggled to score goals.

It's a massive change in a short space of time. Massengo is now around the age that Semenyo was mid-way through 20-21. He needs to be more consistent, he needs to get more goals and assists and he needs to start realising his potential but it is far too early to write him off. 

I can see what you're saying, but you could always see with Semenyo that he was only a small percentage away.  And again, AS and TC have hit the ground running. 

3 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Just what we need....another HNM thread.

Glad I could help then @Sir Geoff. 

Have you got an option, or are you just here for the sarcasm? 

3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Not controversial at all, there have been many threads on here denigrating the abilities of someone who has been a developing teenager for most of his career here. You are not alone.

I would say that if he was Bristolian and had come through the whole if the academy, most of those who castigate him would be excited about how he has done.

That is a good point, he has been here a long time, and was very young when he joined us. The arguing point is, when you compare him the the likes of AS, AS and TC who are also of a similar age, they're all producing the goods. 

This is going to be pretty controversial, or is it? Han-Noah Massengo, in my humble opinion is one of the most overated Bristol City players in history!  Can someone actually explain to me what he brings to the table? 

I don't want this to turn into a slagging match, as maybe I just need to be educated. This is how I view it. He has 1 good game in every 10. He doesn't score goals, he doesn't assist. He doesn't want to be here and is refusing to sign a contract. Granted, he runs around a lot, but he also constantly loses his man. I just don't get him as a player and why the fans love him.

If his name was Paul Smith, had a short back and sides haircut, and we'd signed him from Doncaster, the fans would be screaming blue murder. 

@DavefevsHave you got any stats on him and how he ranks against other midfielders in the league? I'd bet bottom dollar that even Bakinson has better stats for City. 

Am I missing something? 

3 hours ago, Garland-sweden said:

He now will be Playing for AEK Athen. Last season he scored seven and had seven assists for Nimes. With another manager then LJ or Holden he could have done it here. Its history but I thinks its interesting to se whats happen with former Cityplayers.

Eliasson is one of my favourite City players of recent times. To this day I'm baffled as to why he wasn't used more. There was a £10m player in there IMO. I'm amazed another Championship side didn't pick up on him concidering his assist stats. 

@headhunter Thanks for another great Pod! I've got to say, Ian absolutely grates on me, but I kinda like that he does . Like you've said in the past, he's like Piers Morgan, I hate everything he says but I can't help but listen to him. He's like the Andrew Tate of the Bristol City pod world. 

The FBC pod is fast becoming my favourite City related pod, but can you PLEASE sort out Marks audio? It almost makes the pod unlistenable at times. I'll be suing you for the arthritis I'm getting in my wrists turning the volume up and down. 

If you could sort the audio issues out and tell the person to stop clicking that pen, you'd have the best pod out there.

On 25/08/2022 at 08:11, 2015 said:

I think the disrespect towards Martin from our fanbase is a total injustice. The man scored 12 goals last season. 1 goal shy of Fam's best season for us. Martin at this level has been consistent for years, he's not a prolific goalscorer, but he's a battering ram and does all the ugly work and is not easy on the eye. He was perfect foil for Weimann and Semenyo last season.

I'm confused with our fans sometimes. It wasn't long ago that the fans were doing the same to Weimann, yet, Massengo who has literally done nothing and doesn't want to be here, is lorded about. Why? Because he has big hair! It's really bizarre how he gets away with it (granted he's picked up the past few games). 

Let's be honest, nobody who supports city can be classed as a glory hunter, put it that way

Am I the only one who is overly excited about tonight? 

17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Just watched the most recent Uncut video, thought this for a while but this reinforced it- definitely seems a happy camp.

I though exactly the same thing. Wells looks happy too! 

34 minutes ago, HappyClapper said:

I’m a big fan of his EFL cup efforts.

Genuinely think this is a cup we can go far in this year.