One Team In Keynsham

Just now, mozo said:

Nice one! I ran Amsterdam in 2018 too. 3:33 PB. Nice and flat but I didn't enjoy the city part of the course.

What have you got on your list for the future?

That's a handy time, well done.

4 minutes ago, terpin said:

Cheers. I did the first three without any link between them, but then realised I was averaging one a year and it so happened that they had been in different countries. That was when the idea came about.

So far the 12 are:

2008 - Stockholm
2009 - London
2010 - New York
2011 - Berlin
2012 - Rome
2013 - Dublin
2014 - Oslo
2015 - Brussels
2016 - Valencia
2017 - Paris
2018 - Amsterdam
2019 - Vienna

I've done 5 of those. Have heard good things about Stockholm. Istanbul is a surprisingly good race, if you were looking for possibles: has the quirk of running through 2 continents.

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Back when we could, I ran with a mate round Bristol. Stride for stride. I did mine through the Strava phone app, he did his on a Garmin watch and then synced to Strava. His distance was greater and his segments were quicker than mine - even though we ran the same distance in the same time.

I think that tells me that all of them are *wrong*. Add in that I’ve done formal 10k’s which various apps have logged at 9.8k and 10.1k and that backs that theory up.

Strava itself I find the main issues are the “pickup” at the start (my first k is always slower than anything else) and where there are things overhead (Two Tunnels in Bath is great for random times!)

Summary - none of them are perfect but I think they’re all broadly in the same incorrectness range

I find that my Garmin 935 will record a distance, say 2.00 miles even: to then get it to sync to Strava as 2.00 miles I have to run 2.03 on my Garmin. Never been able to fathom why.

9 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Anyone know if you can have two apps running at once? 

Wouldn't mind joining you on Strava as long as I can have my usual running app running at the same time for my interval running. 

My Garmin watch syncs to my phone via the Garmin Connect app. Then within Garmin Connect it uploads to Strava. I.e. you may be able to keep your normal app and then just to Strava. Obviously depends on the particular device.

4 hours ago, Harry said:

Hey folks. Only just recently discovered this thread. 
I’ve just sent a request to the otib strava group. 
I don’t use strava - I’m a Map My Run guy, but I’ve just loaded it up and will give it a go tomorrow. 
 

To catch up on my running history. 
Always used to play football so didn’t really focus on actual running. After a back injury at 37 stopped me playing I started running more. 
 

Haven’t done too many ‘official’ races. My first proper one was the Bristol Half in 2013 where I clocked 1:50. 
Then did the Bristol 10k in 2015 at 46:54. 
My next proper one was Forest of Dean half in 2017, clicking bang on 1:55. 
 

Every time I’ve done a race, I’ve trained well for it and then lost motivation after and ended up back at square 1! 
Having kids severely hampered my running too - having to do the school run has prevented me from running in the morning so for the last couple of years I’ve mainly been restricted to Saturday & Sunday mornings. 
 

Lockdown (and no school) has allowed me to up my game. Did 100k in March, and then 135k in April. I’m already on 87k for May. My Map My Run screenie below of month to date (plus a 5 Thursday and a 10 sat morning). 
@CyderInACan god knows how you did over 200k last month. You’ve spurred me on son! 
 

So, signed up to the club, will try Strava tomorrow morning. Planning on a 10k, so hopefully it works well. 
 

Good to be in the club - good extra motivation. 

Welcome aboard 

39 minutes ago, SuperDziek said:

Does it give you accurate feedback about calories burned? I have to say that is one thing I want to keep an eye on, and not sure how accurate Strada etc are when tracking runs

I have no idea as to the accuracy to be honest.

The watch does do everything I need, and covers multiple activities. 

19 minutes ago, SuperDziek said:

Evening fellow ‘athletes’!

Do any of you wear a heart rate monitor like a Myzone MZ3? Thinking of getting one and have had positive feedback about them from a mate, but wondered if any of you have one and/or whether you’d recommend?

I have a Garmin 935 running watch, which includes a heart rate monitor.

I must confess, I pay little attention to my heart rate, or tracking zones, when I run: if I have to run 9 min miles for a sub 4 marathon, the heart rate will be whatever it will be. I don't promote this as a particularly responsible approach.

3 hours ago, mozo said:

Don't know if we've covered this, but particularly relevant in lockdown: running books!

I've just read Running With The Kenyans, and now moving onto Finn's 2nd book, The Way of the Runner, with his 3rd book about ultra running lines up.

They're an easy read. A combo of travel writing and running story.

I've also got Dean Karnazes Ultramarathon Man lined up which is supposed to be good.

Any others of note?

 

 

I enjoyed John Hanc's The Coolest Race On Earth, about one of the Antarctica marathons.

27 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Anyone got any recommendations on running shoes? I suppose I probably need to go and get an assessment done and get some correctly fitted shoes if I'm going to be covering such big distances but while shops are shut I need another pair in the meantime. Anything in particular I should look for or consider?

Few bits of advice I picked up and followed over the years. I realise that all of these bits are not possible in a lockdown world.

- stick to "proper" running shoe brands (Brooks, Saucony, Asics) and avoid Nike and Adidas and the like: this has worked for me, but it may well be different for you.

- get your running gait analysed and pick a type of shoe appropriate: for me, I pronate so wear a stability shoe

- go into the store with an open mind and get the best shoe within your budget regardless of brand and colour: I basically would try anything based on my requirements, and only asked I didn't get offered pairs in pink. 

- try a sample of shoes on a treadmill or running about the store, and whittle down: for now, get a few pairs with ability for hassle free returns and keep the one that works.

After all this, and trial and error, I have ended up with Brooks Adrenaline GTS. They tweak the style each year, but the fitting is unchanged so I buy online.

Only other advice is to also invest in good running socks. After working through various brands I ended up with Balega. 

Although hampered now by non-running issues, I use to run marathons, and Brooks and Balega got me through a lot of those with minimal, if any, injury and blister issues.

7 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

600 km per pair of shoes is about right I reckon, given some of the advice I’ve seen in running mags mind 

I tended to replace mine after 250 miles or so. I pronate and needed the cushioning from newer soles due to my lumbering gait.

Generally kept a few pairs in rotation.

36 minutes ago, BS2 Red said:

Liverpool not being champions and Leeds and Swindon missing out on promotion?

 

2 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

The 'grossly overpaid 'was in reference to someone saying the club will need help to get through this too when I said about fans being refunded season ticket money  .

If the club didn't offer refunds (hypothetically) but continued to pay Kalas 20k a week I think we would all agree that would be outrageous. 

It's highly unlikely such a scenario would ever occur(the club WILL offer us all refunds and Kalas will likely not be paid his full 20k every week with deferrals etc) but hopefully that helps with the context the original quote was said in

 

Fair dos. I didn't read back the whole thread to source.

18 minutes ago, S25loyal said:

Surely you don’t think 20k plus for Kalas a week isn’t grossly overpaid?

Depends on what scale you are comparing him to.

If you compare to other people in his industry, then there are people on 10+ multiples of his salary.

If you compare to people in other industries, then take your pick, and you can make a point either way. But that doesn't seem to be a fair argument to me. I can't think there is a person in this country who wouldn't want, for example, to pay nurses more than they currently get. But you resolve that by increasing funding to the NHS and paying nurses more, not by attacking footballers' salary arrangements.

For me? I don't begrudge Kalas 20k/week: the club presumably were happy to offer it. Why would he refuse that and take a lower wage? Whether the club should be paying salaries beyond its financial means is a separate argument.

9 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Not sure if this been posted already....https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11382128/premier-league-tv-event-wembley-behind-closed-doors/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook120420&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586700629

 

Please don't post links to that shite rag.

16 years ago today. 

16 hours ago, pongo88 said:

 

City’s treatment of his injury was scandalous. Nobody seemed to know what the problem was with his knee, so he was just told to spend weeks on his own running up and down the Dolman to try and strengthen the knee. Although he injured his knee in August the first X-Ray wasn’t until October. Then the specialist told him that running up and down the stands had made the injury worse. To compound matters he was valued at £250k (a lot in those days) but the club had only insured him for £50k which meant he only received £10k

I was in hospitality for the West Brom game last season and was fortunate to be sat next to Cheese for the meal and HT. This is pretty much word for word what he told us.

3 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

But it's ok, he'll have the US open for business by Easter.......for rapid contagion and death.

Who does his make-up btw?!

I think it's Stevie Wonder.

Just settling down to watch Contagion on ITV2. I love those far-fetched disaster movies, they are a great break from the mundane reality of day-to-day life.

9 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Glad you managed to get your wife off the island. To be honest it's not been too bad here really. I've been fairly impressed with McLaughlin's leadership (for probably the first time sine moving here) - and he seemed embarrassed and exasperated at the number of "essential" applications the other day. Have to say I am glad I don't have a pet right now. 

Having dealt with CI Gov for 20+ years I'm surprised they even had an email inbox for the curfew exemptions.

Stay safe and good luck. Not expecting the airport to open anytime soon.

2 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Makes you wonder when this is all over, if any of the airlines are still standing/flying, whether the age of low cost fights will be temporarily forgotten as Ryanair, EasyJet etc hike their fares up as people book like crazy....

I was chatting to my boss yesterday about holidays, and it came up that even if you picked a place open for business for tourism, would there actually be a carrier able to take you there. In assessing the possible long term fall-out of this situation, the only limitation is one's imagination.

9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have to say, until scientists have been able to do more analysis, we don't know who or what caused the virus. We may never know. The causes of many great pandemics, including "Spanish flu", are just conjecture.

The dominant theory is that it began in Wuhan in November/December and may have some connection to the city's "wet market" and either bats or pangolins.

But there are problems with this: the form of bat coronavirus found in the kind of bats eaten in central China is only 96% a DNA match with Covid-19. That isn't normally close enough for a mutated virus to "jump species". As for pangolins, it's the scales that are ground up and used in (already banned) traditional medicine. These would be very unlikely to carry the virus, and pangolins only have a 90.3%match with the genetic material carried by Covid-19. Unlikely that they are either its direct source or even the "bridge" to forest bats. They are critically endangered for one thing.

Also, multiple reports suggest that neither bats or pangolins were sold in the wet market in Wuhan. Bat-eating being much more of a rural thing; something that is dying out in modern China.

You don't need to blame the peculiar eating habits of some Chinese for these zoonotic diseases. They are much more likely to come from everyday farm animals that everyone eats: chickens (SARS/MERS); pigs (Swine Fever), etc.

Moreover, research on many virus outbreaks has suggested they may have circulated for decades at a low-level before a mutation made them more dangerous and a "super-spreader" burst them into an epidemic. Although AIDS was first identified in New York in 1981, evidence now shows it was present in the Congo basin area in the 1930s and had reached the US by the 1960s. Deaths from it were chalked up to different causes.

So I personally wouldn't "blame China" for a virus mutation over which they would've had no control, and which may not even have originated there.

If there's blame to be attributed, we need to await the "inquest" on all this: and that may be years away.

I've told you before @Red-Robbo don't be bringing facts and logic into debates on here.

7 minutes ago, BanburyRed said:

Never been but looks a beautiful city.  Plenty more in and around Europe looking much the same methinks.

It is stunning. Worth a visit when all this shite is behind us.

Having visited Lyon for Euro 2016 and then for the 2018 Europa League final, with the obvious crowds both times, it is mad seeing the city like this.

31 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Well we are now 14 hours into a full 58 hour curfew in the Cayman Islands. (7pm Wednesday night until 5am Saturday) No one is allowed out of their house (except into your private garden/balcony). all shops closed, only people on the streets are emergency services and medical/government staff. All because when the Gov announced a partial closedown of all non-essential business they were inundated by 20,000 applications form people/business who believed themselves to be "essential". This full curfew is to buy the Gov some time to sort out how the island will functional under a "new normal". We also, as a British Overseas Territory, need to keep a lid on our own infection (8 cases, 1 death) until such time as the UK has it's own house in order and can start supporting the vestiges of the Empire.

I saw a pic this morning from a friend who lives at Laguna Del Mar: some idiot was paddle-boarding up 7MB, clearly part of the "rules don't apply to me" camp.

I saw the reports of the 20k+ applications for waiver: not bad from a workforce that can't be much over 30k.

My wife got over to England the day before the airport closed, but our dogs are still there, enjoying foster lockdown life at various places across the island.

Latest story on the Guardian feed. Utter c>nts if proven.

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