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12 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

Crowds up every year since COVID 

season ticket sales UP every year 

squad numbers reduced for last 3 seasons 

squad wages also reduced 

hospitality at its highest ever at AG 

BALANCE ON BUY AND SELL IN LAST 7 years £50 million plus 

but WERE STILL LOSING MONEY SOMETHING NOT RIGHT THEN 

It's called football (or, more specifically, EFL Championship football).  No one makes any money.

1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

I lost respect for the owner when he did the Tinnion and Millen mistake again with Holden. Still getting over it now! He’s been great for the infrastructure of the club but football decisions on the whole have been poor. Cotterill another who was let go too soon and not backed. Someone else who inherited a mess. LJ was given so much backing it was unreal! He should have been sacked for finishing 11th after being 2nd in the January. 

But there's no magic recipe for a successful manager.  Sometimes rookie appointments work, other times they don't.  Equally, sometimes experienced appointments work and other times they don't.  Holden seems to have found other jobs quite easily, so there must be others out there who see something in him.  Many people on this board were crying out for Hughton, but he bombed at Forest and perhaps we dodged a bullet there?  Eddie Howe's appointment at Burnley didn't work out, but his replacement by a journeyman lower league defender with a single year's managerial experience certainly did.  Hindsight is wonderful.

33 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

This is my huge worry. With Lansdowns track record of hiring managers i have little to no faith that whoever Nige’s successor will be is going to be the answer.

I think the next couple of weeks will pretty much tell us what the owner thinks of Pearson. He has to be backed 100% IMO.

Here we go again.  Sorry to pick on you, but my heart sinks so much when I read this kind of thing.  Have you noticed all the other chairs in the Championship making successful appointment after successful appointment?  Perhaps not.  Or have you noticed that only three current Championship managers have been in post for two years or more (and, yes, Nigel is one of them).  Lee Johnson is Marmite on steroids on this board, but I still maintain he was a pretty good appointment (especially considering the state we were in when he took over).  Dean Holden wasn't successful, but was replaced quite quickly and other clubs have gone on to hire him.  We are now an established Championship club, which is huge progress over not that long ago.  And while not all of SL's appointments have succeeded, he hasn't wrecked the club in the way that, say, Southampton's owners have after deciding that Nathan Jones was the man to take them forward .

There is no easy recipe for appointing a successful manager.  I contend that, actually, our record isn't that bad at all.  For every Mark Robins there are many other disasters.

8 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

The only ambition any of you have is to be in the same  league as us . You might find this ironic as you’re on a city forum taking the piss out of you 15ers. However , what is true & I know this because I have quite a few of you cuckoos as mates is that you obsess over us . You hate us , not because of sporting rivalry but because we’re something that you’ll never become. You’ve been mismanaged for decades & in you’re twisted logic you all blame us for this . I suppose it’s easier to do that than look closer to home. 
we've always challenged our owners no matter who they’ve been over the years. We’ve protested in the 80’s when Terry cooper was sacked & we’ve questioned the club over many things over the years. The reason being is that we won’t just put up with any old crap the club comes out with. 
 

you lot on the other hand just put your heads in the sand & say , it’s not my fault or what can we do . You just put up with any old crap they say. As a fanbase your weak & cowards . 

Bit embarrassing this, to be honest.  Let's choose our battles wisely.  There are so many easy targets, no need to reinvent history

This thread has got embarrassing.  So what if he's gone to Bournemouth?  They are an established PL club, he's more likely to get game time than if he went to a "bigger" club, and he gets to show everyone what he can do against the best clubs in the country.  Very best of luck to Alex on the next stage of a hopefully glittering career

Many of us are greatly amused by the comic goings on elsewhere. If it was a TV drama we'd probably conclude that the writers had gone too far and no-one could be that tinpot. If you're not interested, then perhaps stay off this thread? Simples

1 hour ago, Grey Fox said:

As to the personal stuff, I’ll ignore that, it doesn’t bother me, and I know the schools go back in September.

Manchester United sell when it is in their interest, not as a matter of policy.

According to Mr Pop , this forums financial guru, we do not need to sell this summer, therefore retain Scott, try for promotion, and review In January or next summer when we will have a clearer idea as to our chances, or not, of going up. 
 Really is a straight forward proposal, which doesn’t need some of the rather ridiculous responses from those desperate to sell to the first suitor that comes along..

Looking forward to going to the Gate on Saturday, suggest some of you turn off your calculators and join me.

COYRs

Even if we don't "need" to sell, do we really want to be a club that denies promising young players the opportunity to move to a higher league?  Players have very short careers, and opportunities come and go.  For me the crucial question is what Alex wants, and if he wants to move to somewhere like Wolves or Bournemouth (which could be the stepping stone to a further move if things go well), and they offer a reasonable fee, then we absolutely shouldn't stand in his way

28 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Lee could make a killer pass - but let's face it, only when he was in space, and unthreatened by an advancing opponent and the grass was the right height.

You don't have to be big, but you do have to be strong and confident. LJ had neither those attributes when we first played him, although TBF to the man, he had got a bit more robust towards the end of his spell on the pitch for us. 

7 minutes ago, Agard Days Night said:

Don’t mute him, he’s got all the inside info 

Do you realise how boring this is? 

35 minutes ago, The Coach said:

Thanks Dave. Knew you would

Does not read well does it? If you were to split green as successful and red as unsuccessful. You would have enough red lines to paint the major roads as a no stop zone.

And enough green for all the cycle lanes in Bristol, with lots to spare. Honestly, there are quite a few gems on that list

45 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

You can tick off Wimbledon too - they were in the premier league for eight seasons from 1992 to 2000 - your graphic seems a bit flawed ...

And MK Dons as well - two for the price of one 

Just now, old_eastender said:

Weimann miscontrols - he had been poor today.

Apart from setting up the goal

Get those sprinklers ready in case we're losing at half time

Seems to be based mainly on the auditors' "material uncertainty" statement, which is pretty standard

Sorry if someone's said this already - Man City to be relegated as punishment for lying, overspending, being really annoying etc

Oh when the Saints, oh when the Saints, oh when the Saints go Marsching down

On OS before Twitter.  Old school 

"Penalty decision overruled because you are Bristol City. End of." 

18 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Oh that's lovely from Scott. Nutmeg and then run forward. Direct. This is great.

15 minutes ago, Ecko said:

Scott is having a great game

13 minutes ago, Vidal said:

Another £5mil being added to Scott’s value as we speak.

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Scott off his game today 

Got to love OTIB

So easy for Max to clear rather than putting Atkinson under pressure 

Ralph Milne

Oops, I might have blown my cover 

1 hour ago, Vidal said:

Have to be honest I’ve never wanted a manager to go as much as I did LJ, should never have been given as long as he was.

I assume you are young and were not around for the Pulis era?

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

OK- got it now.

Do you really expect us to believe that you didn't already know the reason?

1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I couldn't give a toss about MA or Ipswich or is it the case that until BCFC see success again anything to the contrary is purely down to MA and by extension- Ipswich?

A little bit of schadenfreude doesn't mean that everyone thinks that MA is responsible for everything that's gone wrong.

And has anyone really blamed Ipswich??  Rather than blaming Ipswich, many of us are very grateful that they took MA off our hands.

Good post Captain Hindsight.

Most managerial appointments are huge gambles, and many that look great on paper don't work out. NP could prove one of those, yet many (most?) of us were ecstatic when he joined. Wilder and Hughton were names banded around here with lots of enthusiasm but they both failed in their most recent posts. Many clubs oscillate between experienced managers and up and coming younger ones, and the vast majority of both types of appointment fail.

Please, please, please let's not kid ourselves that there are lots of owners out there making successful managerial appointments and SL is some kind of exception. Two thirds of  current championship managers have been in post for less than seven months. Almost everyone is getting it wrong. That's football. 

13 hours ago, Davefevs said:

We certainly looked at other higher calibre managers…the story is they “turned us down” after they’d got into the true interview stages.

”Turned us down” is being loosely used here because if we take Hughton (a higher calibre manager) as an example, he might’ve been demanding too much, and it might’ve been us who realised he was the wrong fit.

Ashton and JL spoke to over 10 candidates and had multiple interviews with 4.  We are led to believe that that Holden, Hughton and Cook were three.  The fourth is always a bit of a mystery…Ryan Lowe is one theory.

Think we probably dodged a bullet there?