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Good God, has it hit that low?

One of the factors is that when players have had highs they have all been together, similarly like yesterday too many have had lows at the same time as well.

I think if Pearson had stepped down, sited ill health and the whole thing was handled totally differently, and then Manning was appointed fans would be feeling a bit different. It's not Manning's fault those above him put such pressure and expectation on him. We may still be going through the same results, who knows, but the feeling wouldn't be so toxic towards the wrong person as it is now? But that said, playing unfit players is pretty inexcusable.

I agree. Obviously in most things it's either who you trust or who you can manipulate. It's telling though how some 'outsiders' quickly depart.

Just a bit of fun really I guess. I rarely vote but am interested in viewing the results to some extent.

Obviously it was quite a while ago now when he was manager. He seemed quite easy to get info from, he enjoyed sharing stuff, I don't think that's changed.

Whatever the answer is I don't know. I haven't voted yet but am thinking along the lines of the Board put Manning in charge and now they have to justify this by backing him. They thought he was the right appointment, so prove it or lose the faith of the fans. In a couple of weeks I expect the club to be pushing Season Tickets. It's going to be a hard sell for sure.

There is a lot of 'jobs for mates' throughout the whole lot. Bristol Sport, the football, the rugby, the foundation, community trust, stewards, in fact every department. Not necessarily the right people with the right experience but who knows who. There are some 'outsiders' who try to do a good job but they really are swimming against the tide. I was in a situation where I was able to have a long chat with Tinnion when he was manager. He was a hero of mine having been at Liverpool and witnessed THAT moment. But after my chat with him he gave me the impression he was a bit dim, or to be even blunter a bit thick. But hell what do I know, seems he is cleverer than I thought getting in with the right people and working his way right up.

I'm probably going to get battered for this...but I think on the whole Max has looked a lot more confident since Manning. Yes he has some errors in him, he's a keeper and mistakes really show, but his shot stopping and confidence has much improved, the reaction stuff. It seems when he has time to think he isn't at his best.

Great write up as ever @Olé, but I think you were quite generous with your marks like the poster quoted above. If 5 is Championship average, I assume, then my belief that there were quite a few below that standard today. If I am totally honest, I'm not sure if you could find 11 players who played worse across the whole Championship today. It's not acceptable that after a week of preparation they produce that.

I can't get my head around how we were so up for Southampton and so opposite for QPR and Weds. Fair enough we raised our game for the cup games but to go from Southampton to this is a shambles.

Luckily for our players when they came over at the end that Weds cranked up the music and were celebrating like they had won promotion, they didn't hear the boos.

The pitch doesn't look that great, to my untrained eyes of course.

Those were my thoughts too. Gutted for him as he had just put that match behind him and was ready to get more experience for the rest of the season. Small consolation too is that he will have the full support from his parents, Mickey must have come through a fair few injuries and will have first hand experience of the months ahead for Sam.

I'm struggling too

That's why for me it was so refreshing to see Twine, even if it was only for one match. It really made me realise how predictable and stale our fk and corner routines are.

I would take that to mean he has lacked in time to do 'basic/standard' training and has had to focus on pre match prep as we've had so many Sat/Sun and Tues/Weds/Fri games for the past few weeks. As we all know 2 Cup replays, extra time etc are all additional. Add into that away travel and that's a day less out of his coaching week. I just think this maybe what he is alluding to?

That's got to be a security concern at the very least

I've seen it every time I've sat (legitimately) in the Lansdown. A bit of a giveaway are those that place themselves in the spare hospitality seats then don't go in at half time. True there are no really bad views in the ground but a prime place side view is always going to be better than behind the goal and is priced at a premium. Similarly Dolman wings are cheaper than centre etc. People do buy cheap tickets and sit in expensive seats. If the club are stupid enough not to close the loophole then people will do it.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the club will review it some day. At the moment they have given out a shirt for a cheap ticket. I thought the shirts were to prevent kids wearing ManU/Chelsea etc shirts in our city and to catch them young, fans for the future etc. Well if the child isn't attending and the parent isn't spending on sweets, burgers, soft drinks etc for them that already money lost? The kid might be happy with the shirt, but if there is no real connection with the club as they don't attend then are they likely to pester for additional shirts or kit? Again money lost perhaps? Meanwhile the adult has plenty of space next to them, the option to upgrade or sneak a mate in on a child's ticket, and most importantly the guarantee of an option to buy for a big name cup tie or playoff game. That said the club aren't going to bust a gut and make loads of SS seats for POTD by a buy back scheme for example, they probably think that if a casual fan wants to attend badly enough they will pay for a dearer ticket.

That's why I made a point of checking when I took the photos and stating the timings. I guessed that with an 8pm KO them most people would be in their seats as in reality it's 20 mins later than normal. Same with after HT. If your not back in your seat 15 mins after the restart why attend games!