formerly known as ivan

The more you think about the pre season excuse, the more ridiculous it sounds. Doing a pre season which will then see him through to the end of the season, at which point he will go off and come back needing to do a pre season! Does anyone recall the real reason we didn’t sign him last summer? I thought it was due to a failed medical, but then he continued to play for St Pats for the remainder of their season? Presumably this could make any medical issue worse. But then who done the medical in January and gave the thumbs up? I don’t get why the club couldn’t say he arrived with an injury. We will work on that this season so that he comes back ready for next season.

I agree 100%, this pre season excuse doesn’t make sense as to why he has not featured at any level. Much has been made of Tinnion’s comments recently and the plan for the U18’s. You would have thought Murphy could even slot straight into there for fitness levels, unless there is a rule stating otherwise?

The easy answer is playing in the championship vs league 1. But I agree, been with us since January. If two months of a “pre season” isn’t even enough to make the bench for the U21’s, let alone the first team, then surely questions need to be asked. I would have thought 30 min cameos for the U21’s would do him the world of good.

Regarding Seb PH, Semenyo showed it is doable. Not just to step up to the championship, but become a decent premier league player. It might be asking a lot, but they wouldn’t have given him a contract without thinking he was capable. Despite all his flaws we are now seeing, the one thing it is hard to criticise Tinnion for his development of young players.

Bravo sir!

Having not listened and taking what has been summarised on here, it sounds like young players have been held back/not been given the opportunity with the first team based on the youth cup. If you think keeping Alex Scott in the U18’s 2/3 years ago would have been better for his development rather than being introduced to the first team, I have no words for you.

What Tinnion failed to acknowledge was Pearson had us top 6 before a ball was even kicked this season! I was planning on listening to this predictable nonsense at some point but it’s been so well summarised by many on here I no longer have to put myself through it. Thanks anyone who took one for the team! Those of you who will continue to show blind faith in this shambles of a club, I hope you enjoy the ride. I’m getting off on this stop. Hoping to be back on when it passes back through, minus those pulling the strings currently. Any recommendations for proper local football to watch on Saturday afternoons?

What do we think “Travis” motive is then? Fanboy of Manning, here to protect him at all cost? Former scared poster out for revenge? It is was this surely their knowledge of city would be better?

I just find it interesting how vocal a new member can be in support of an underperforming manager, especially when they have supported the club for so long. Never during the good times of Cotterill, being one game away from the promised land under Gary Johnson, the tenure of Johnson Jnr. Yet now is the time to join and defend Manning who is clear doing a poor job so far.

Funny you should say a better group of players in 22-23, seeing as our own board see the current squad as capable of achieving promotion

Based on no loyalty in any way to Manning?

Consistency is an issue, you are right about that. However, the issue under Manning is they are consistently crap! Exceptions being Watford away, Southampton home and a couple of cup games. In answer to the original question, fair targets for Manning, this is quite simple to me… play the type of football we were told to expect, whilst picking up points along the way. Show progression is being made, not regression. No one realistically expected promotion. That only came from the board. However, they will mostly be judge on this now, not necessarily Manning. If Manning is not delivering on this front, it is down to the board to act on this.

Just out of interest, please don’t take this as judgement or criticism, what made you suddenly want to start engaging on this forum if you had supported City for that long?

About 30 years and a majority of them have been much more enjoyable. We aren’t talking about one off games though, it’s the whole package. You never expect success with City, we know that. But a few hours every other Saturday has never felt as much of a chore as it doesn’t currently.

Another example of a player who has regressed under the Manning regime…

Ok Liam

You said we didn’t allow them a shot on target. That’s completely different to allowing them a chance and them missing the target. You are suggesting we were throwing our bodies on the line the stop them having a chance which wasn’t the case!

Well positioned = stood on his line?

No they didn’t, but you said we didn’t allow them a shot on target. It wasn’t that we didn’t allow them a shot on target, they just missed the target. Surely you know the difference? I’ve put my reasons as to why I am not happy. Not sure how much clearer I can make it?

Didn’t allow them a shot on target? Assume you are joking? They had a couple of clear chances, one particularly in the second half. They just badly missed the target. It had nothing to do with us!

Didn’t want to go, decided not to. Last minute phone call saying we’re on our way to pick you up changed that. Wish I hadn’t bothered. Glad to see fans showing their feelings with a half empty ground. I will follow this as stated in another post. It’s a shame we never get ‘bums on seats’ numbers when it comes to attendances. Would be amazed if there were more than 16k inside that ground today.

I’m not gonna lie, I wouldn’t say it sank but I certainly didn’t celebrate or get remotely excited. Hence my decision not to go again this season. I can’t get behind this brand of football. I can’t get excited with an undeserved 1-0 win at home where we’ve had 23% possession (based on bbc website). Like I said to someone else, if you enjoyed that this afternoon then good luck to you.

If you are happy spending your weekends watching that then good luck to you! I don’t think there is any risk to worrying about them doing well.

That was bloody terrible. Literally the worse performance of the season. Unfortunately all it’s done is give Manning breathing space. Making that my last visit to the gate this season. Can no longer sit through it and cant celebrate even when they win.

Perfect result.., now Joshua can believe in his own hype again before getting another beating from Usyk or Fury