Pezo

I don't like doing our players down and I like Vyner but you know in the same situation Vyner would just cede possession and invite the attack hoping the break it down later.

Minor hamstring I think, couple weeks hopefully.

2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

There are other similar quotes which refer to leaving nothing on the field rather than ‘everything’ but either way, professional, very well-paid athletes representing our club giving everything they’ve got in every game - that should be a given, the first line on their job description - these guys are earning upwards of £500k a year - giving their all in every game is the minimum we should expect - although I totally respect your decision to “****ing love them for it” ... 

I think the point is there is nothing more they can do which is all we can ask and hasn't been the feeling we have had from the squad in the last few years.

What would it take for you to "****ing love them"?

We had a team that knew had to sell -sell players, sell a method, sell us down the river - basically they were selling snake oil because they didn't know how to buy. They thought that if they bought enough players then competition would create quality and that's simply not reality of how people work.

12 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Why is it ludicrous?  Wouldn’t you like City playing like Fulham did today?    

They were excellent throughout the game and City did well to escape with a point. I’m hoping that Nige will get City performing regularly as Fulham did during his stay at AG

I think what Graham means it's ludicrous untill we have parachute payments.

As much as we would all like city playing like Fulham that's not really possible at the moment. It would probably be like Palace comparing themselves to Man C.

Can't ask more and I will get behind that every day of the week even if we lose.

Having moved to the corner this season I think it's an excellent atmosphere in there and the view is much better than I expected having come from the top middle of the SS

To some that say the atmosphere isn't good enough are you sat elsewhere in the stadium? If so why not move? Go where you enjoy the match day experience the most.

You obviously can't can't have previously enjoyed the EE atmosphere and then move to the middle of the Dolman, spend your time having a nice chat with your friends and expect the same atmosphere to somehow be around you.

1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said:

The club did say in April that this area of the stadium would no longer operate on an unreserved basis so it's not exactly a surprise revelation. 

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/price-freeze-202122-season-cards/

They said it when renewing STs for 20/21 we just didn't get the opportunity to have it enforced upon us.

40 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

I,ll happily relocate to the Lower Lansdown , for the same price.

The club are under no obligation to do that and we all know wouldn't, people do seem to get attached to "their seat" - it's not their seat it's the clubs seat they just rent for a combined roughly 46 hours a year.

You might as well be saying I would happily relocate to the directors box for half the price of my current season ticket because you have about as much chance of getting what you want .

45 minutes ago, bris red said:

You say ‘’not again’’ but something needs to be done. AG is like a library most home games, its painfully clear having the singing ‘’section’’ shoved in a corner does nothing for the atmosphere.

Having singers spread across the back of the SS would be the ideal solution. The back 4 or 5 rows would be sufficient IMO. Okay some season ticket holders may have to be moved but if it is for the greater good of the overall atmosphere improving then so be it. 

Wouldn't spreading the singers across the back 5 rows kill the little atmosphere there is, wouldn't that make it like it used to be at Wolves away where famously pretty much no one could ever get an atmosphere going in the bottom tier because it was so few rows.

40 minutes ago, asfred said:

But what do you do with the current season ticket holders in those blocks, who have no desire to stand for the whole match, and like having the same seat each game? You can't just turf them out of their seats.

You can. They have done it to singing sections ove the years.

13 minutes ago, bris red said:

I still think that area needs to be expanded along the south stand, 3 blocks is nowhere near big enough for the demand IMO

They must be able to tell from the amount of people requesting to go in there at ST renewal.

1 minute ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

In defence of some of the stewards in that area, they have been working there a long time and know a lot of us by name. It's great to have that familiarity, they ask how you are, friendly and don't check our tickets because there is no need. 

Yeah seemed to be different stewards at the last game - one of them was more like a bouncer.

They are usually good.

Just now, Calculus said:

Maybe it's a Covid thing. Knowing who was sitting next to who for 2 hours just in case someone turned out to be affected might be the reason. Who knows?

No, it was announced before COVID.

1 minute ago, David Brent said:

Do stewards check tickets in there? I suspect people without tickets for that area are trying to get in. Makes sense that it must be 1 space per person

Yes sometimes 3 times.

3 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Did I miss something here, when did it become, you must sit in your seat

For the season that no one turned up to.

When they said they would install the posts essentially.

No one will pay any attention to this although I'm sure they will have a go at enforcing this tomorrow.

1 hour ago, maxjak said:

Well what a surprise?  i was Tempted in, to read a piece by Hollowhead on today's Bristol Post website with regard to the new initiative to re introduce standing at soccer grounds, I should have known better?  Given the opportunity to make some serious points and insight into the issue....Hollowhead, given so many choices as examples, decides to regurgitate May 1990 at a Bath building site.?    Quite probably my worst ever experience at an away match, and i have been to a lot, standing on a ramshackle terrace on crutches, due to a broken leg suffered playing football a few weeks before, it started badly, and then got worse.   It was just the most horrendous capitulation to a pumped up Gas side, who just blew us away with route one football that we just couldn't cope with.  i spent a depressing 90 minutes teetering on my wooden props, trying to stay upright,   hating every minute, and wishing i'd   stayed home.  I have just rewatched the video through gritted teeth, made even worse by Malone's wittering monstrosity of a commentary, and it is still the horrible mess I have tried to forget.  .

So thanks a lot Hollowhead for stirring up a memory i have tried to suppress, you just couldn't help yourself could you FFS?   Apparently you got a great Buzz from the game?, well you know where you can stick that Buzz don't you?          Anyway time is a great healer, and as we gradually move onwards and upwards under Uncle Nige, I take great solace in seeing our sad neighbours slow decline towards Non-league    football as some kind of reward for my worst ever 90 minutes   at an away game.   Any other away game horror stories out there?               

So your on the fence about Holloway then? 

11 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said:

@Mr Popodopolous

We had a few good chats on the FFP thread with regards to Reading.

I think of all the clubs that have fallen foul so far; they are the most contemptuous.

At each stage, they have knownthey are in the wrong over the last few seasons. But have continually thought stuff it, we'll push it a little bit more.

Cue last month's transfer window, and the signings of Holliett, Drinkwater, Baba, Hallovic, Dann and others. They knew they were going to get penalised anyway. I can't believe the EFL let them get away with it for so long.

That's the bit that bugs me the most, they must of known last month they were heading for administration.

If you look at those players and how much they must be on and think how much the loan club must be funding the wage you have to wonder if anything dodgy is going on - it doesn't seem right that Chelsea turn around to a loan request and say "oh and don't worry we'll cover 90% of Drinkwater wages while he plays for you".

54 minutes ago, Southend Blue said:

Ashton is just trying to endear himself to a new fan base.   Kind of like when you go to a job interview or start new employment (which he is), you need to show the right character.  I have a feeling this 'reach the fans' or whatever it is, won't have a happy ending but I've got to think for the better and remember the absolute shit that was involved while Marcus Evans and his staff were on board.     Don't forget he's relocated from one end of the country to another, pack up your troubles maybe and hope for a fresh start.

We did OK yesterday, maybe on another day the goal shouldn't have been given but we've had more than our share of wrongful rulings and decisions not go our way.     Nothing fancy out there, just get ahead and keep focus.    Lincoln did well in parts but didn't seem fully committed.

We could be playing Derby and Nottingham Forest next season it looks like.    This league is tough enough already and my concern is, if we don't make it out this season what with new players / manager / owners and expectation, it could be some time before a promotion occurs.    Its been a poor start but the win yesterday was crucial.    Hope it inspires the players and Cook to do a bit better and believe in themselves in the weeks ahead.  

I remember when we used to think a single result would turn our season around or change our fortunes and we were up and down like a yoyo, mainly up the first half of the season and down the second. 

Now we've moved on to wanting steady performances knowing that they will give steady results which at the moment are great away but poor at home (a trait from our Ashton era) still waiting to see if it can be maintained over season and if we can turn out home form around but we will see.

Hope he doesn't screw up your club like he screwed up ours but he has form over a long period of time and at multiple clubs, I was a supporter of his for the first few seasons and dismissed dissenting voices as people that don't like suits or due process or any other list of reasons that people seemed to pinpoint as a character trait of his, it all fell apart for me at the appointment of Holden when I realised there was nothing behind what he was saying - there wasn't any due process he just knew how to say the word. 

One word of warning from a fans perspective it does all seem to make sense at the time, when we were selling our players for more than ever before and signing what some were telling us was the best lower league and European players that could be available to championship clubs it sounds great, you only find out you've got 10% talent and 70% average league 1 players and 20% journeyman types on there way down once it's too late. I still stand by the observation that I made that Lee Johnson seemed to have a bigger role in most of our better signings than he did in the mediocre ones so logically Ashton was more involved in the mediocre ones. 

3 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

I had to watch that twice, just to be sure my eyes were not playing tricks on me.

I am actually concerned about his mental health, that is simply not normal behavior for a CEO of a football club.

I had to watch it twice as well and then sent it to people that needed to watch it a few time, it's going to end up trending at this rate! 

5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Personally I take no pleasure in news like this. The fans aren’t at fault at all and it’s them that suffers the most. 

I agree its rough on the fans the only thing is most of there fans didn't seem to have a problem with it and even now seem to be in complete denial. 

7 hours ago, RobintheRed Red said:

Exactly johnson ripped the team apart signed mostly crap and weve been suffering ever since.

I would say it looks more like Ashton sold the silver and signed most of the crap, sometimes LJ put his foot down and demanded players like Brownhill and Webster that didn't really suit Ashtons agenda but yeah bit of a side point - they were both in there.

7 minutes ago, Lydered said:

http://www.skysports.com/share/12406942

https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news/2021/september/Club-Statement/

Expected after the start to the season, what is people's general feeling now, still wish we'd gone for him or pleased with what we have?

I would have still have had him over Holden as those were the options as far as can tell.

I wouldn't swapped now as I believe Pearson is an equally good manager although has a very different style. 

9 hours ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Looked at a couple flats in Luton this week, the estate agent took me to one blind, what a ******* dump.

 

Being Luton I assume that's the nice one. 

6 hours ago, richwwtk said:

People have complained about atmosphere at AG for as long as I remember. The truth is that the ground is capable of generating a great atmosphere, but it only really happens for the bigger games or when we are dominating an opposition.

From my experience in the SS it can be quite decent, and is certainly no worse than it was for the last few years before the rebuild, though it is never going to reach the heights of the old terrace days.

This season there has been some improvements, the dropping of Seven Nation Army and Downsy no longer regales us with "the players are in the tunnel....." bullshit immediately before the players come out for a start.

S82 do their best, but are not ideally situated for the rest of the ground to hear them, not sure it's called the singing section any more? It certainly is a bit of a tinpot name for it.

As one final thing, there is a fairly new song, to a tune you hear at a lot of sporting events these days, which contains a line something like "if you're not red and white stay out of town tonight" or something (I forget) but nobody around me has a clue what it is apart from that line - could anyone from S82 enlighten me please?

To the tune of bad moon rising. 

I see the east end rising, 

I see there's trouble on the way, 

Don't go out tonight, 

Unless you're red and white

There's the east end on the rise.