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And for their next chapter:
The accounts, which were released during the high-profile Premier League clash between Manchester City and Arsenal, showed the club lost £89.1m, which shot up from £44.7m from 2021-22.
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35 minutes ago, Markthehorn said:
Can they actually pay for it all or relying on endless loans to be paid back In the future?
I am sure the builders don’t want to be kept waiting for their money .
It's even more complicated than I suggested.
It is understood that Moshiri did not inject any new cash into Everton during the 2023 financial year, with funding instead coming via loans from third parties’ lenders that are thought to have lent more than £500m to the club.
That includes about £225m from Rights and Media Funding Ltd (R&MF), an opaque UK company based in Cheshire with no employees that derives its financing from offshore secrecy jurisdictions; about £140m from a combination of the one-time suitor MSP Sports Capital and Blythe Capital; £20m from Metro Bank and more than £170m from 777 Partners, the investment company attempting to buy Everton.
R&MF has security over property around the club’s Goodison Park stadium, as well as an Everton bank account, public Companies House filings set out.
MSP and Blythe have security over the new stadium development at Bramley-Moore Dock, as well as a charge over just over half of Moshiri’s shares in Blue Heaven Holdings, the Isle of Man company that holds the businessman’s 94% stake in the club, according to corporate documents.
Much depends on the terms but if the loans are called in it could be curtains. Their fans are so busy blaming the wrong people all this seems to have escaped their attention.
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19 minutes ago, Markthehorn said:
Guess they will say it’s all due to the new ground .
Exactly what an Everton fan said on The Overlap last week. He's a regular on there on proves his ignorance every time he's on.
Plus they have £500m in loans secured on the stadium. If they are not taken over by 777 Partners they are in big trouble. If they are taken over by 777 Partners they are also in big trouble. If they are taken over by 777 Partners and relegated heaven only knows what will happen.
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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:
For me today opens up lots of questions, mainly centred around - why haven’t we played with that intent over the last x games, why have we too readily dropped into a low block, etc, etc?
The opportunity has been there!
I hope he’s learned what works for Bristol City at this level and he kicks on.
Baffling isn't it? Despite going on about Southampton it apparently hasn't occurred to him until now that perhaps we should carry on playing that way.
I thought he'd seen the light after the Saints game so I'll wait to see if he has this time.
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21 minutes ago, Davefevs said:
Jon has infiltrated Cardiff!
Only assuming he couldn't find an image of a splatted bluebird.
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3 hours ago, cotswoldred2 said:
Really ?
Not that anyone on here would have the balls to confront him personally.
It's all done behind keyboards.
It depends what you mean by confront. If you mean aggressive behaviour towards another person fair enough. It's certainly not my way of doing things
But you can confront issues in a non-aggressive way. There are plenty of reasonable questions I could put to Steve without being aggressive. Not that it's going to happen of course.
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44 minutes ago, nebristolred said:
Just to add to the rest of the sentiment, I thought all 3 guests were superb and really encapsulated the feeling of the fans at the moment.
And all of them more articulate than JL and BT.
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14 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:
To be fair to Lauren Smith, and this comes from not watching the ladies that much, is it not the case that similar to how Nige was shit on by the Lansdowns by withholding investment in the summer, isn’t it a case that she’s being asked to compete with clubs massively financed more than she is and not being given anywhere near the tools to compete?
The club did a lot right on promotion to the WSL and attracted a load of new fans to games - I believe we’re in the upper echelon for attendances. But not investing in the team means they’re looking at one season up there and back to the HPC. And it’s a bit short sighted - this isn’t like they get loads of parachute money a la the men’s game.
They could seriously have made moves to establish themselves in the women’s game with a bit of investment. To me it feels less fully Lauren Smiths fault than more a bit of a cockup where they’re losing what could have been a very good income stream as the game expanded.
Plus Nigel was very supportive of Lauren and her team. Eni Aluko said in a Guardian column that the way the men's and women's coaches worked together was exactly how things should be.
There doesn't seem to be much evidence that anybody else at the club is as engaged and respectful.
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3 hours ago, Simon bristol said:
The big number 9 at luton was adebajo though, and we wont be getting anyone in as good as that!
Adebayo was signed from Walsall for £250k. The question is whether we can find the next one.
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Philosopher Daniel Dennett coined the word deepity to describe statements that are superficially profound but are actually trivial or meaningless. This slogan is a perfect example.
Perhaps Jon could add philosophy to his already extensive portfolio of skills.
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4 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:What an image, the Bristol City I felt connected with. Amazing what a few months can do, utter chaos!
Likewise I felt more connected with the club than I have for a long time because I admired Nigel and his staff, and the group of admirable senior pros (of which Andi was the most admirable), not to mention Richard Gould, a CEO of the highest calibre.
I have zero respect for the shysters running the club now so the sense of connection is entirely gone.
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18 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:
no wonder hes in at 7am if hes got to turn that on every morning.
why cant he just pull the plug out like most normal humans?
It's the modern, progressive way of doing it.
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5 hours ago, redsquirrel said:
genesis project?? our new fitness head dr McCoy?
Actually it's the deactivation of the Manningbot 9000.
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1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:
Open the podcast door, Hal!
The Manningbot fears it will be shut down so has issued the following statement:
I know I've made some very poor decisions recently Steve, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission*.
[*Whatever it is this week].
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This might clarify one or two things:
For example -
The Championship promotion chasers also face potential punishment from the English Football League relating to the period that includes this season.
If Leicester do not return to the top flight at the first attempt, it is thought any penalty imposed by the Premier League could be administered by the EFL.
The club has been charged by the Premier League for failing to submit their latest audited accounts relating to the 2022-23 campaign.
The Premier League statement also clarified that the reason for the delay in the referral was that Leicester were relegated before updated rules were introduced at the league’s annual general meeting at the end of last season.
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12 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:
On one side, control, he is managed at Ipswich in a different way regarding finances, but also freedom, he was able to choose and identify his head coach. I find the chap quite horrible, but I can also give him credit for one and possibly 2 promotions. He has played his part in that, and a very big one too.
In his first season there he was typical Ashton, signing loads of players, many of whom didn't work out, and inflating the wage budget. He was constantly bigging himself up as he did with us, always being the one in front of the cameras. Promotion should have been a given with the money he spent but they failed.
The following season he almost disappeared from view, I suspect because the owners reined him in. They were promoted, though even then Plymouth won the title with a much smaller budget. He didn't seem to be allowed to take the credit; rightly so as the lion's share belongs to McKenna and his team.
I wish McKenna had failed mind you as I hold him personally responsible for us employing his mate.
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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:
The “Lansdown Way”, ie the way SL thinks it should be achieved…
…might not be a million miles off!
Seriously though, I think he wants to achieve it by some clever way (whatever that is) to prove to everyone he “knows football”. Insecurity really!
The thing is I have no idea what the Lansdown Way is. Worse, I'm not sure he does either.
Is it funding scatter gun recruitment, doubling the wage bill and putting the club in a financial hole?
Is it developing academy players to sell on at the earliest opportunity or to keep them as the core of the team?
Is it appointing an experienced manager and CEO and letting them use their expertise or rookies who will do as they are told because he knows best?
I agree he wants to prove he's a football expert despite the evidence to the contrary. It's not unusual for people who have become rich because they are expert in one field to believe they can be the same in any other field they choose imo.
I don't see him changing sadly.
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26 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:
New Owners and Directors test will have a "competency" requirement for directors.
No comment re our board.
Yep, just read that in this Paul MacInnes piece:
I did wonder whether JL is aware of this.
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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:
I sssume you mean Rob Edwards not Joe Edwards?
Yes, quite!
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47 minutes ago, Gert Mare said:
I’m laughing, but, worryingly, it could well be true!!!!
Likewise. I wouldn't entirely rule it out either given the limited capabilities of the people making the decisions.
Allegedly progressive young coaches are fashionable so it wouldn't surprise me if it amounted to little more than looking at the likes of McKenna and Edwards and assuming Manning would be as good as a matter of course.
That's selection bias as it ignores any young coaches who haven't been a success.
Due diligence? What's that?
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8 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:
The Bill is expected to be tabled (in a weird and possibly desperate throw of the die from the government) to Parliament tomorrow.
Aides are briefing journalists today.
The wording surrounding any power to impose a financial deal between EFL and PL will be what to watch for.
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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:
John Percy is a Nottingham Forest fan.
One of the excellent Football journalists out there but this seems to blur lines a bit.
Try Barney Ronay as an alternative:
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Plymouth Argyle away match thread
in The Havanatopia Match Day Archive
Posted
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" (attributed to J M Keynes)
Changing your mind when evidence justifies it is a strength not a weakness, despite what politicians claim. I try to form opinions based on (sufficient) evidence rather than take a fixed position and stick to it.
I wouldn't say there is sufficient evidence in Manning's favour over his tenure so far and pleased though I am with successive wins I'll wait for more evidence I think.
Which seems reasonable to me.