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Some of you might be interested in today's Tifo Football podcast on developing young players:

https://theathletic.com/podcast/197-the-tifo-football-podcast/

Lots of informative stuff but I was struck by the section where they discuss the problems with training young players in only one tactical system in the light of our aim to have all our teams playing the same way.

In my experience organisations come up with statements of values as bolierplating and rarely actually live by them.

I wonder if the club ever reviews how it's doing against those alleged values. The discussion around integrity and honesty would be an interesting one for sure.

As to innovative, I'm not sure "we should copy Brighton/Brentford/Luton..." qualifies. Nor does "ooh, look, that club over there has a fashionable, modern young coach, let's get one of those".

Still, learning on the job and all that.

Be fair, they're all learning on the job. I'm sure in time they will learn not to lie to fans. These things take time.

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

Some I agree with.

Some I disagree with.

Some I agree with the basic fact but feel you've embellished a little.

But, the end of it all is that at times I quite envy fans of a club like say - Grimsby - who have a well run outfit that makes rational decisions. They aren't always the correct decisions when hindsight is applied, but Stockwood respects his fanbase enough to explain them clearly and openly.

It says a lot that at times I'd much rather be in the League 2 relegation battle than where we are.

I'm with you on Stockwood. He comes across well in his occasional columns for the Guardian. I can't imagine anybody from our club writing such intelligent and thought provoking stuff.

What I like most about him though are the admirable values he has, a rare thing among football club owners. An important element for me to be proud of my club is its values. That was a key reason why I liked Gould, Pearson and his coaches and Rennie.

I don't see positive values in the club now, which is deeply depressing.

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

There are 10 clubs who have scuppered this New Deal..and they're reportedly threatening legal action etc if forced to partake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html

And the Government is not impressed.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/government-angry-premier-league-reject-efl-support-plan

47 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t think he is learning. I think he wants to take us down the path he’s set, no deviation.

He's like a politician who has their dogmatic policies and won't change them regardless of whether they work.

OMG Liam Manning is our very own Liz Truss!

13 minutes ago, Nomad said:

Who is the fella in the last screen saying 'unbelievable'?

It's a welcome return for Squires' emo Mourinho.

11 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

Learning is a life-long process. Pep's still learning, everyone should be. I'm still learning after doing my job for 23 years. The world changes, you need to change with it. I don't see a problem in this.

Agreed but Tinnion has been learning about football for 30 years (my estimate as he doesn't like to talk about it) but I don't see much evidence that he has learned the skills for the job.

6 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I bet he’s wishing he’d done that due diligence.

The question he should have asked after meeting JL and BT:

10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Can’t believe Tins is giving out undisclosed transfer fees on air! Jeez.  Bet QPR are delighted that’s been divulged.

Not the first time he has been so unprofessional. In most businesses he'd be out in his ear for revealing confidential information.

Anyway he should go through the proper channels and tell Ian Gay first.

21 minutes ago, Travis said:

Your hire em fire em is laughable don't be frightened of Sunderland it is a great fit for you  

One club sacks an experienced, respected and popular manager doing a good job under difficult circumstances because it wanted what it thought was a modern, progressive coach. Having realised their mistake they got rid.

Another club sacks an experienced, respected and popular manager doing a good job under difficult circumstances because it wanted what it thought was a modern, progressive coach. But the people who run that club never admit to getting things wrong so keep him on to save face regardless of performances and results.

Strong leaders are comfortable admitting mistakes. Weak ones aren't so they plough on regardless.

28 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

Nobody can understand what Manning is trying to do because frankly it’s baffling. Unless it’s turning good players into useless ones. He’s clearly good at doing that!

Perhaps he's had too much time on the grass?

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

If we are gonna play Knight there for his pressing, then then him press.

Block, block, block, block.

Imagine having a ”derby” and letting settle into their patterns from the first minute and build confidence?

I’m not suggesting pressing rashly as individuals, but we saw last 20-mins how a bit of bravery in positioning can help turn the tide in your favour.  Last 20 was so much better.  Seemed like fun again.

 

 "Ok lads, Swansea like to hog possession so on no account should you press them. There, I've given you the information so if it doesn't work it's your fault."

39 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Knight is a midfielder, Gardner-Hickman has been totally anonymous for weeks, so drop him, play Knight alongside Williams & try Conway & Wells as a pair.

All very well but not what a modern, progressive coach like Manning does. Just not funky enough I'm afraid.

We mortals can't possibly understand the subtlety of his tactical brain. Unfortunately neither can the players.

2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Jesus even Toby on RobinsTV is asking whether too many teams meetings is too much information.

If he's lost Toby Osborne then that's it. 

How else can Liam "give them the information"? The wrong information admittedly but it's a start.

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

He would have always picked Ipswich above us, bit of a non-starter...

Yep, and he turned down his old club Cardiff. We had no chance of getting him.

I thought Cardiff got far too emotional towards the end of the game. Not the right kind of behaviours.

2 hours ago, Galley is our king said:

He used Pring as an example of a player constantly on loan and not feeling part of BCFC.

To be fair to Tinnion, he said Cam was ready for the first team but was ignored in favour of sending him on yet another loan.

29 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

He keeps talking about us going in the right direction? 

A case of "The operation was a great success but the patient died"?

14 minutes ago, George Rs said:

What the **** are you doing then? 

Hardly seems worth him turning up on match days does it?

Mind you the same could be said of the fans!

1 hour ago, Selred said:

Such an interview answer. 

But he forgot to say his greatest weakness is being a perfectionist.

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

 Most winning managers tell a few white-lies.

You mean Arteta wasn't being sincere when he said Sheff Utd were a tough team to play? How disappointing.

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Manning and Hogg are too similar in their thoughts.  You need your no2 to challenge you, not agree with you and be telepathic.

Which is what Nigel did with his coaches and Dave Rennie. The best leaders are open to disagreement and prepared to change their mind.

14 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Amidst our detractors it is morale boosting to read the more positive posts like this one from @RedRock.

Our Ipswich review will be LIVE & recorded at 9.00 AM Wednesday and will feature, amongst others @Davefevs & @TomSutton . 

I'm very much in favour of differing views being debated whether on a pod, on here or anywhere else. I'm happy to give a like to somebody I disagree with if I think they have made their point well.

But opinions should be presented rationally and with respect for those you disagree with. If a mature adult can't do that I for one not going to listen to them.

43 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yeah, think those clubs had THEIR plan for THEIR reasons.  Without understanding how they hit upon their plan, you cannot emulate.

And assuming you have the right plan, if there is such a thing, you need to appoint the best, most suitable people you can to key roles to implement it.

I can't see that JL/BT/LM are those people so the plan is neither here nor there.