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2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I’m on Wednesday morning (after Ipswich).  I wish I’d been on this morning.  Especially having my name called out “on air” re my position that I’d sack Manning.  I’d like to have explained myself.  Not that I’m not comfortable with my reasons.

I’m on SOTC tomorrow evening, I’ve no idea what questions will be thrown at me, or what opportunity I’ll get to expand my reasons.

The problem is you can't have a rational discussion with an irrational person. The more you set out your opinion based on evidence and intelligent analysis the angrier they get.

Anyway, I'll hold yer coat.

25 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

These are not his players. They don’t suit his style. His one ‘big’ signing in his mould is injured (an ongoing issue here that long precedes LM). He will need the summer.

So we replace the players rather than play in a way that suits them? That seems rather expensive though no doubt he will have money thrown at him in an attempt to rescue JL and BT from their own lies and incompetence.

At least you didn't say 3 transfer windows.

27 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

It's so frustrating. 

A few weeks ago we were playing with pace, high press and passion, to the extent that we beat a Prem team, held another for 120 minutes and stuffed the 'unbeatable' Southampton.

So the squad has it in them but why has it disappeared? 

In the presser before QPR it was put to him how good we were in pressing and transition against Saints.

He bristled and said "Yes but we had control at times". I found that revealing as it suggested he doesn't want to play in a way that best suits our players even if it works. Seems we're going to play his way regardless.

Reminds me of the fictional civil servant who says "It may work in practice but does it work in theory?" That's increasingly how Manning comes across for me.

Presumably when you know who has received his script from Tinnion.

It's easy, just ensure that the 3 people in the most important positions are out of their depth. I can do that.

Yes, but he's done it in a modern, progressive way apparently.

21 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

What a pathway..

Seems like we've installed bollards and a no entry sign to block access.

40 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Bloody hell, if you’ve got a flaw in your comms style, I might have to stop posting!

Not just you Dave, we'd have to shut the forum down! Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.

37 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

You say that - I had to listen to it twice so I could scribe the 1 in 20 quote and confirm the context!

Thank you for your service from a grateful nation.

5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

He did say, when questioned by Piercy , that he has, or will adapt . Says it would be wrong not to.

I like Piercy , asks questions I want to know the answer to.

Point taken though that seems to contradict him saying he wouldn't change the way he works. There could be a subtle difference I suppose.

Agreed on Piercy, he's excellent.

7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Wouldn’t change any of his processes or the way he works

This mindset bothers me. It implies he's right regardless of the outcome. Not encouraging to be as rigid in your approach as he seems to be. Good leaders in any context are open to the possibility that they may be wrong.

7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Can give all the information to the players but they need to step up on pitch

He keeps saying this but it comes across as he's doing fine it's the players' fault.

These sort of things don't come across to me as 'good behaviours'.

All very well but how are his behaviours?

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Thanks, myths being debunked is good.

Who has it coming more do you think China? I was going to make a separate post but Everton or Nottingham Forest? Realistically a minimum of two compliant clubs will drop so Burnley, Sheffield United seem gone..but deductions could assist with relegation for one or the other.

Unless they're huge deductions of course.

Hard to say without knowing the detail of the Forest case. And of course they have a lower limit. Tribunals don't set precedents but I can see them getting 6 points deducted if mitigation is factored in.

Who knows if Everton's double jeopardy argument will work? A 4 point deduction would be amusing though!

4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Matt Slater is excellent, I shall look forward to this.

The best there is on football finance matters for me. Apart from his excellent summary he goes on to demolish many of the claims made by Everton fans and others.

I recommend today's Athletic Football podcast. Matt Slater in particular gives an excellent summary. Henry Winter and the many other journalists who seem not to understand the process would do well to listen.

https://theathletic.com/podcast/144-athletic-football-podcast/

8 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Clearly mates with someone high up now

From Wikipedia:

A useful idiot is a person perceived as propagandising for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders.

Seems a good fit to me 

1 hour ago, chowie said:

I noticed that earlier, appeared on my feed today, I thought he locked his account?

Anyway, I remember on the POD he said he would give Manning 10-15 games before judging him, so now he's saying he needs a pre-season before judging him, bet the next one will be "The new players need time to gel"

Then it'll be "He needs 3 transfer windows". Etc, etc ad infinitum or until BT realises he's perfectly capable of embarrassing himself and doesn't need a shill to do it for him.

8 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

I think it's the guy who is the CFO who is fulfilling most of the roles that a CEO would do, but again, without experience in that field and it's a penny-wise-pound-foolish move to try to get two executives for the price of one.

You are correct of course, though Jon did say BT was growing into the role as well. Not a professional way to operate imo.

4 minutes ago, hinsleburg said:

In my opinion the club governance and structure is a shambles

A point that passes most fans by as it may seem boring and not relevant to what happens on the field.

So, we do not have a Board in any meaningful sense. We sacked an award winning CEO because, well, why would a business need a CEO? Anyway Tinnion can fulfil that role, presumably because he has hitherto hidden expertise.

There's nothing like following best practice and this is nothing like following best practice.

20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Seems unduly generous on the face of it.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3912574

Written Reasons will be interesting to see.

6 points was what I expected the original penalty to be, for what it's worth, given the size of the breach.

If Everton had admitted the breach up front I can't help but think a 6 point deduction could have been agreed with the Premier League.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

And yet Conway’s chance last week at QPR was inter-play between him and Wells.  And then he said they’d worked on that in training in the build-up to the match.  So he must see something in a pairing of some shape or form, surely?

You'd think so wouldn't you? But he didn't persist with it. Certainly TC benefited from playing with NW under Nigel so you might expect Liam to know that and apply it himself. But he seems to have his preferences regardless of the evidence.

2 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Conway looks like a shadow of the player he was. He doesn’t see the bloody ball anywhere where he can hurt the opposition. Yes his chances of the Euros have all but gone playing for this ****. If I was him I would hand in a transfer request the day the season ends. 

Liam has said more than once "I play with one striker". Whether that suits the strikers he has doesn't seem to come into it. Having fixed ideas you won't deviate from tends not to be good practice in any line of work.

Done. Hope it goes well for you.

10 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

 

Milton Keynes local news, Dec 2022, post LM sacking. Sound familiar?

"This season's crop of players has not looked at home in the system they have been playing in, and the dogged, unmoving approach to the style of play has not helped."

 

Thanks for this. I'm afraid it reinforces the concern in my post above. It's hard to be optimistic for sure.

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

SL wants a return.  Some people say “and why shouldn’t he?”, but it’s his running of the club that has meant it’s worth less than he wants.

West Brom, admittedly a somewhat distressed asset but a bigger club than us, have been sold for a reported £60m. Steve is not likely to get the multiples of that he seems to want. Stalemate then.