Bris Red

9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Really like Toney. Seems more at home than Watkins. He’d be my second choice forward behind Kane. 

Toney is the better footballer for me. It feels as if a team isn't built exactly to play to Watkins strengths he seems fairly ineffective, you need to be more versatile than that at international level IMO.

Add to that Toney's fairly incredible penalty taking record which could prove invaluable in tournament football i totally agree with you that he should be second choice behind Kane.

Hahahah Welsh *****

Class from Jude. Overall a decent performance, we were the better team overall IMO!

It's a shame as going forward when we have everyone fit i don't think there is a better team in the world with the options we have.

Unfortunately defensively and at goalkeeper we just aren't good enough IMO. When was the last time we had a genuine world class keeper??

Why Tomori never gets a shout a centre half is a baffling one..

Awful from Pickford. 

13 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

If you were around then (& I was), not really.

This was the year of Heysel, the Millwall riot at Luton on TV. Pretty sure our one at Reading was the year before.

Football was seen as violent, an almost exclusively male pursuit in crumbling, dangerous stadia. Definitely not cool.

A lot of the 80s was like this.

Whatever any of us think about the Premiership, Sky’s influence & the rest, the rose tinted nostalgia for that time is to a great extent, misplaced.

 

Gone far too much the other way now though IMO, of course we all want to go to a safe and inclusive environment when we go to football but the whole match day experience at 99% of football clubs in this country has become far too sanitised.

11 hours ago, StefanDimz said:

As per title - Vizeh's take on City

 

Certainly an accurate assessment, can't argue with much of that. The scary thing is i genuinely feel the Lansdowns are fairly happy with treading water at this level.

We are still averaging well over 20,000 each week at home and we have the brand new stadium and training ground that they have always wanted, plodding in mid-table and the occasional cup run suits them fine IMO.

The problem is as Ipswich showed a few years back, you cannot just keep treading water at this level and will eventually have a poor season and go down. It feels like we are just sleep walking into a relegation sooner or later.

1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

As if to prove that the cross has been simply been used artistically as part of a consistent colour palette and brand identity, here is the England shirt on the official twitter account today.

Note the same stripes on the arm and use of the same colours again in the background graphics.

It’s a graphic design and artistic choice, nothing more. The debate is utterly bonkers.

Indeed. Nothing more than a graphic design/artistic choice as you said. For balance the st george cross they have put on the socks is the traditional red cross. The traditional 3 lions crest on the shirts also hasn't been altered! 

1 hour ago, Super said:

Think they are pretty good tbh.

 

 

Huge improvement on the current shirts. That away one is unbelievable

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Hold yourselves back.

Liam Manning: “We play to win, we exist to inspire, we always believe”

 

They can **** off. Won't be getting another penny out of me anytime soon.

15 minutes ago, Show Me The Money! said:

No chance is he being sacked anytime soon after them making such a big thing of getting rid of Nige and bringing in there self described super coach who can manage this top 6 squad.

Would be far too much egg on JL and BT’s faces for them to sack Captain Mannering so soon. They’ll double down in the summer and pray to the footballing gods for a miracle turnaround.

This for me unfortunately sounds the most plausible way that i can see it going. We have seen them double down before and blindly just think that throwing money at it will help the situation, rarely does in football.

The only other way i feel the trigger could be pulled is if we get an absolute thumping by somebody especially if it's at home. Without ever wanting to see City get beat if Leicester pumping us on Friday is the catalyst to make SL act then i wouldn't be against it - as horrendous as that is to admitt..

Time to act now IMO, if the Lansdowns and the Geordie had any shred of credibility they would hand their collective hands up and admitt they have got it horrendously wrong with this appointment.

22 minutes ago, phantom said:

******* state of him. 

Just seen the score, no surprise is it. Manning out followed by Tinnion and the Lansdown's. We are an absolute shambles top to bottom.

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Probably fair. But the problem with a “petition” asking to move is that it very much frames things as a one sided issue - ie “we’re section 82, let us move” without seeing the side that means of “we’re a family of 4 that have had the same seats for 15 years, now you’re making us move”

Whether they don’t view themselves as such, it does then come across as superior.

Been done to death on here but the locating of fans after the renovation was handled extremely poorly by the club.

That was the golden opportunity to really make the South stand a proper home end. The middle two or three blocks should have been made unreserved seating like the old EE was and familys and people who want to sit in silence (seems like the vast majority in the SS from what i've seen) should never have been located there in the first place. 

2 hours ago, lenred said:

May be a surprise to some but people do sing in the South Stand already and try to get an atmosphere going in there.   Plenty of them.  Moving a few people into the back rows when there are already singers there is going to make no difference whatsoever to the atmosphere.  There is no silver bullet here. 

 Certainly would help to extend the standing area across the South Stand . Standing and a better atmosphere go hand in hand IMO, nobody i know or myself included want to sit and watch football.

10 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

I don't care if I get shot down, that's fine, but I am sick of the negativity towards Tinnion.

I love the guy.  Pure and simple, he's a city legend and was in the team for my first four years as a fan and had a left peg I absolutely worshipped.

Anyway, I'm not here to talk about his football legacy, I think it's cruel and unfair the way he's treated on here, quite often as a figure of fun and with his intelligence and communication skills being mocked and belittled, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

He's not our enemy, he's our ambassador, he's a man who's gave most of his working career to our club, even though being a Geordie and having no previous affinity to the club.

We know he's not the best fit for the job he currently has, but he had the ambition to go for it, the same as his stint as a manager, he wasn't up to speed, but he had the ambition and drive to go for it.  I respect and love that.

It's not his fault if he's not right for the job, it's up the people above him if they feel he should be replaced.

Personally, I want him in charge of the academy, that's his best fit and hopefully he will be back there sometime in the future - back within his comfort zone.

But in the meantime, he will definitely be giving everything to the club and deserves much more respect and our support.

You don't have to love Pearson and hate Brian, you can appreciate them both!

And even though I don't agree with Manning being our gaffer, I can see the reasons why he was recruited.

 

Nah i'm sorry but the bloke is a fraud that i want out of our club ASAP, the interview on Monday night solidified that for me..

30 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Two life lessons I’ve learnt relevant to high level positions in big organisations:-

1) work hard, but most importantly, work smart

2) continually challenge yourself and improve, but know your ultimate limitations 

You’ll always get opportunities in life, be ‘head hunted’ etc but sometimes you have to be honest with yourself, be the judge of your own competence levels. It is hard to turn £££ jobs down and, from my experience, even harder to deliberately **** up interviews, but you live only once. Quality of life is far more important than prestige, mega-bucks and a fancy car. 

May not apply to all, but just saying like ….. 

Totally agree. What scares me the most is Tinnion actually believes he is the right man for the job, the line of 'i have earnt this role' (or words to that effect) really did summarise how delusional the man is.

This has also got me thinking, what do we think Tinnion is on salary wise now?...Wouldn't at all surprise me if he is earning more now than he ever did earn here as a player. The money is undoubtedly a huge factor in him 'giving it a go' IMO.

8 minutes ago, Red from afar said:

I stick to my guns when I said early in the season, if they bought 2 or 3 decent solid players at this level in the summer in the right positions we'd be close to the playoffs, if not just inside. Nothing I've seen from the other teams below the top 4 (and maybe West Brom), has made me change my mind

They didn't have to be spectacular, just good pros who fitted our style of play. It was pure pettiness that stopped that happening and now they've set us back a couple of seasons again.

Nail on the head for me. After all the hard work that Pearson had achieved in the previous 2 years or so we had finally got ourselves into a FFP position in the summer of last year where we could have really signed as you said a few experienced pro's at this level that were so desperately needed. 

History repeats itself with the Lansdown's though, they never learn and their ego's will constantly get in the way of this football club progressing further than this level. 

54 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

There is something (and potentially nothing) that was notable in Liams pre match presser. The number of times he said “Brian”.

Those of us who have worked in office environments know in meetings that staff under pressure tend to reference their superiors a lot. It’s a way of tying their fortunes to their bosses, and trying to spread the blame/ make it more difficult to them to be dismissed.

I’m not saying he will be sacked. But the “tells” in interviews mean I wouldn’t rule it out, irrespective of today’s result. Steve L also being in attendance at a half empty AG won’t also have helped his case.

The bottom line is that if Tinnion sacks him this season he can retain some credibility (wye aye, we saw it wasn’t working and wanted to act quickly) but a sacking in October finishes him as well.

I think for all those reasons it may be closer than you think and beatings by both WBA and Leicester may well lead to the trigger being pulled.

We can only hope 

1 hour ago, Redminer said:

I cannot see how he plays for BCFC. Unless I'm missing something he offers nothing. If he has time to think he never delivers, cannot head, cannot win a ball and passing in general is woeful. Today I watch in disbelief and the guys on the bench must think what have I done wrong to be behind him. I never like to single people out but I'm sorry I cannot see how he's stealing a living from us.......

Said it on another thread but he is what you get when you give a manager peanuts to spend. 

You could argue that for the money we paid his CV and particularly at this level was fairly decent. 

Obviously not worked out for him here thus far admittedly however you can certainly see why Pearson took a punt on him especially when the board backed him into a corner with such limited funds to spend.

1 hour ago, sunningdalered said:

The short answer is not much. Don't expect him to be a regular starter when our new midfield dynamo's come on stream. Brings a bit of energy, that's all IMO. 

As you said he brings energy and certainly is neat and tidy but isn't going to IMO propel us into the top 6. All in all he is fairly average at this level for me, a decent squad player but he isn't anything more.

It was unfortunately the sort of signings that we limited Pearson to bringing in though, with very little money to spend Pearson had little choice but to bring in the likes of Cornick and TGH when we needed more bodies in the building.

I can absolutely guarantee we would have seen a completely different pedigree of signing if Pearson was allowed to truly bring in the players he wanted/knew we needed to reach the top six but wasn't permitted too by the powers that be because of the financial constraints placed upon him..

2 minutes ago, Chrizzler said:

How's booing them during the game going to help ffs!

sends a message to the boy and that northen **** Tinnion though doesn't it..