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6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

They were certainly rammed for the music part of the ceremony. Can't blame anyone for not staying around to watch the crap drivers unveiling. Nit sure the organisers can be blamed for people choosing to leave early.

All I wrote was 'their big unveiling of the drivers yesterday was in front of basically empty grandstands'. You called it 'bs'. I prove you wrong. Why do you then go on and pretend I was making a completely different point? How strange .

25 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Sorry but that's bs. I watched the ceremony and both grandstands were absolutely rammed packed.

Really?

Well done lad, no luck here this time around. Onward to Sunday.

Race still on but things aren't looking great at this stage. We all know F1 has historically failed to 'crack' America, but since the success of the Austin GP this feels like a real attempt by Liberty to create a flagship event here that will finally overcome that and be a fixture for years to come.

But there are warning signs so far that it's not going particularly great, and not just because a manhole cover broke. The track itself looks dull at best, the temperatures are looking cold almost to a point of negligence by those planning it. Previously sky-high tickets and hotel rooms are all coming down in price, their big unveiling of the drivers yesterday was in front of basically empty grandstands, and all the while the casino's are only in because they've been persuaded that they will make more money, but at this rate it's not looking all that likely.

Fingers crossed the mad temperatures spice up the racing a little bit.

@CheddarReds are you guys under 35 by any chance? If so things should be very easy for you guys to get a 417 Working Holiday Visa, and you won't need to do any farm work. Happy to go into more detail if you like, but if you're over 35 things could be a little bit trickier.

14 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

It would probably fall into the same category as the one punch killings which is often unlawful act manslaughter? Which essentially means a death has occurred from a criminal act. 

In this case, the guy must have known what he did risked a physical injury. If he intended to do it, or didn't know what he did was unlawful is irrelevant. 

It's not irrelevant to the type of charge he'd get though, that was part of my point.

2 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I’m not sure I’ve heard or read anywhere that he has or may be charged with murder, or even manslaughter. 

As I indicated earlier, to the best of my knowledge, he has not been charged with anything whatsoever.

Oh no I understand that, it's just as KITR referenced above, loads of people have been calling for it on Twitter, being the madhouse that it is.

I find it hard, or pretty much impossible to believe that it's full on murder. You'd have to be either insanely 'lucky' that that particular scenario came up or incredibly opportunistic.

But then it's down to whether he meant to hurt the player, and if he did, how much did he mean to hurt him. And when I say that, the intent doesn't necessarily have to be particularly brutal - football players intend to hurt each other every match. If there was intent, did he mean to hurt him? Probably. Did he mean to injure him so he couldn't continue? Maybe. But then actually killing him...

I'm quite clearly no legal expert but I have no idea how you even go about proving that he meant to cause any harm at all and even if you do manage that, measuring the level to which he intended it.

Horrendous, really sorry to hear. A friend of mine went missing in the sea 3 years ago and has never been found, it's not nice, very brutal.

6 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

God, those buffoons are an embarrassment and are paid far too much.

 

If they're solely working on social media they're probably paid sod all to be honest.

9 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

We actually took the lead in that game too.

But conceded the 5 before that and what added up to be the next 7 . Am I right in saying Bradford and Wolves were Benny's first 2 games?

21 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

So to deconstruct

We're not Man U and a 34 year old comparison doesn't hold sway.

On the pitch until this season, no signs of progression. I've not seen much this season to comment 

What on earth does not being Man Utd have to do with it? It's quite clear what the point was. And I think everyone has seen progression in certain ways on the pitch, so if you haven't, well I don't know what you've been watching.

21 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

There's a myriad of things

Manager not hitting board kpis

Not great on pitch.

Home form shocking

There's a million and one other metrics

So your 'myriad of things' essentially is not hitting board kpi's (which we are all in agreement were ludicrous), and the other ones are basically the same thing. So you don't really have a 'myriad' do you.

As for psychic powers, no I don't, I don't have a gut hunch either. I have an educated guess. In the same way that I could make an educated guess that Guardiola would probably do a better job than I could!

I think you need to rethink your 'myriad of things' and take a step back from how far in you've gone without nuance, because, as everyone else has already realised, the only 'thing' was not being liked by the board.

For what it's worth I'm not complaining that we chose Manning. I'm complaining that we sacked Pearson only to end up with Manning.

All things considered, taking away the fact that we should have Pearson, it's an ok signing. But the fact that we had a decent proven manager before is what causes the underwhelming-ness!

1 hour ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Nige was 2nd longest serving manager in this division afaik.

Time he had

On pitch we were treading water. Not seen this season but last two where saw most of them high diagonal balls to the channels hoping for a cut back or pressure mistake from the opposition wasn't winning us lots of games . We were hard to break down after a spell of shipping goals for fun. However the football was absolutely dull af

The goals this season has dried up too.

There's a myriad of things. Niges bosses confirmed he wasn't hitting kpis and thus chucked him when they thought it was right to do so 

The decision was entirely the board's to make and given a host of factors they decided to make the change.

I feel that even with every scrap of information in the public domain regarding dismissal it still wouldn't be enough and instead we're celebrating mediocrity, whilst simultaneously claiming everything was awesome 

Which clearly it wasn't or he'd still be here 

2nd longest serving manager doesn't really say that much these days. Man Utd would never be what they are now if they did the same to Ferguson - he was in his 4th year there when he was nearly sacked around the time of the famous Forest game, and looking back we all know that would have been ridiculous. So what you look for is progression, and in every way Pearson was taking us in the right direction.

To suggest that there is a myriad of things is simply untrue. The squad was trimmed as expected, the wages were brought down, the results were acceptable, the squad clearly liked him. There was no 'myriad' of things as far as we can see - there was one thing and that's the board.

No one was saying it was awesome, but it certainly wasn't worthy of sacking, and that's the simple truth of it. And it is equally as true that to sack him for Liam Manning, is frankly one of the most ridiculous decisions made in the recent history of our club.

Anyway, this is about Manning now. He is not an upgrade by any measure so it's all the more perplexing why the board have done this, but I'm behind him. And if/when he doesn't get us promoted this year, the board will have to answer.

16 minutes ago, Akira said:

I'm so done with our club right now. 

Need a new owner with both Lansdowns gone along with Tinnion. Feel so disillusioned with City it's unreal, and it's all because of our owner and the stupid decisions he makes regarding our managers time and time again. 

 

1 minute ago, supercidered said:

I'm done as well.

200 mile round trip for me for home games, match tickets x2, train, cider and taxis. I don't get much change out of £250. 

I'll always support City but it will be from a far for a while. Sick of it all now and need a break from this bullshit merry go round. I'm not going to keep spending my hard earned when we keep going back to square one or maybe even worse. I actually thought we were on an upward trajectory with NP albeit quite slowly. 

The NP sacking was almost the last straw but I stupidly thought that maybe this time the hierarchy had a cunning plan. As it turned out that plan is Liam Manning. If it wasn't so sh!te it could be funny but it is too sh!te to be funny.

 

 

Yep, really feeling these posts. I'm not quite there yet in terms of being 'done' but I'm as close as I've ever been. Under Pearson it was far from perfect but we had players who played to the final whistle, full of energy and full of youngsters, it really felt like our club had a real identity. And a tiny, really daft part of me thought that maybe we are now finally sewing the seeds to go and do a Leicester, or a Bristol City equivalent. There was something there.

But yep, in one swoop we've had a very quick reminder of who really owns the club, that any manager with an ounce of authority or leadership can only be at the helm for so long, and we've gone and finished it off with yet another punt for sod all reason.

Once again, no beef with Manning, and I hope he does well, but it felt like a lot of the optimism for our club just got ripped out in one moment, and a huge amount of cultural work at the club, the most difficult type at that, just thrown in the bin.

43 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

Can absolutely be incredulous at some of the responses.

The blunt truth

NP wasn't getting the results on field as was his KPI too.

The football wasn't great ( Niges greatest matches thread is conspicuous by it's absence)

Out of contract and not going to be renewed.

Lots of cultural shift sure.

That ship sailed.

Again with the responses all sense of nuance is lost and large swathes of replies begin with an approximation of ' but nige' or any other ever increasing bizarre rants against a person who's yet to coach a game for us.

'As was his KPI too'.

It's a very selectively chosen time to hold him against KPI's though isn't it? He and other managers have both missed position targets before and been given far longer, so why not here? And also, it was only the board who expected promotion. Anyone else who knows an ounce about football had very little actual expectation of promotion this season. So why the change in ruthlessness? It's because deep down it had nothing to do with league position, and we can all see it.

Anyways, we've now 'upgraded' to Liam Manning, so let's see how it goes. But still, a decision that should never, ever have had to be made, and coming out of it with Liam Manning, as promising as he may be, just makes it look even more stupid.

9 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

Predict this making at least 60 pages by the end of today 

I feel like this one has died down now. 

I know there are reasons for optimism with this appointment according to people with far more football knowledge than me so I'm onboard with the fact I could be wrong, but this would be such an underwhelming appointment personally. To go from a proven manager in Pearson doing genuinely decent stuff, to a bit of an unknown with admittedly a couple of decent seasons in Belgium and with MK Dons (the former with lots of money should be added), and one who was deemed not good enough for MK Dons very recently - it would be a huge disappointment for me. Of course I'd get behind him, but on face value it would be underwhelming.

But going by OTIB other past few days it seems that we're not sure what is really happening, so staying open-minded right now. If we are actually looking abroad and trying something new, that would be a bit more encouraging I think, purely for the shift in focus, rather than another signing that could be seen as another LJ/DH, etc.

1 minute ago, Lew-T said:

Just feels very meh to me. We’ll see

Agreed

9 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

Allegedly taking an enforced break due to something he said on non football chat but maybe for entirely other reasons. I hope he's back before too long.

Blimey what do you do to get a 3 month ban 

Really wish there was a way he could come back. Gutted.

Whatever happens, this is an all-time greatest/worst OTIB saga.

Can't find a link for the life of me

Just now, OliOTIB said:

His words?

No chance, it's just banter about his method of asking questions . Unless you knew that, in which case I've had a massive woosh moment.

20 minutes ago, Carey 6 said:

Any idea why @bcfcshags has been removed from the forum? Does the club have a say so in what goes on, on here?

He’s just let me know that he believes Lampard will be announced Monday. 

Really? Blimey.