Mr Popodopolous

Happy to say I was wrong. Suppose the Bryan deal and the so near yet no cigar left me wary! Looks excellent business. £1.75m for Knight and a profit on Wilson, given we have Tanner, McCrorie that's good. Shame it didn't work for Wilson, sometimes plans and tactics change.

Yep agreed. Scott is both superior and further along in his development. Reinforces the £25m price tag justification.

I dunno, just a gut feeling that wage could be a sticking point. Ipswich or Stoke maybe can pay higher wages at this moment if we don't have a decent outgoing.

Well I'd say Stoke need a couple more tbh.

Seen it suggested on DCFCFans that Knight is certainly off but personally I'm not wholly convinced that it's to here. Will be very happy to be wrong but a few clubs will be interested and some may offer higher wages.

Adam Wharton reportedly leaving Blackburn for £15m, or that is his price tag anyway. Similar age in fact 6 months younger but much less experience.

Good point about pre-season training, they do seem to start later I guess. Agree with many things you say on Scott, clearly West Ham moving forward is somewhat contingent on Rice money. How many midfielders they will look to sign is another question, Zakaria from Juventus is one such name who is meant to be joining for £17m but I'd be surprised if he is their only CM signing. In any event, one more year of Scott would suit just fine. I'd like to see what he can do in a side that has truly stabilised on and off the pitch after the fire fighting of his first 12-18 months in a City shirt.

You've been quite bullish so far about the £25m and maybe more. I may as well ask. Do you think we'll actually get a bid of £25m and or above? Granted nearly two months left in the window but there do seem to be or have been a lot of reports of clubs and hesitancy about the price tag. Scott is just one of many options out there, albeit ahead of many of these at respective stages of their career. I checked a few of these the other day. I actually could see his development being well served by one more season here but time will tell.

Thing about Palmer is, and I don't really rate him that highly but I think he's one of those who requires a specific, perhaps a bit of tailored shape to get the best. Palmer behind Weimann and Afobe until the sad injury of the latter was really quite promising. I think Coventry at times with the back 3, with the potential for a freeish midfield role can get more out of him it they go with a specific setup.

@DaveInSA In the case of Wolves FFP is absolutely a factor. Others are hesitant as to whether he's worth it. They could afford it tomorrow most but whether they think he is worth it, different issue entirely.

We should have hired him, that would help us...Stoke already get an okay number for their position.

True true I was taking a simplistic calculation I guess. The amount I guessed is quite wrong but I suspect we may have been referred had we Not sold Semenyo albeit for less than the number stated.

True we will never know but I do think had we done that and retained Semenyo we may have exceeded £39m or been referred anyway and disputed, possibly likewise Stoke with Souttar. Don't think we could sign anyone for fees until someone departed in January, future monitoring requirements etc. I agree out losses exceeded £5m and £5m in those 2 years, easily evidenced through Gate Receipts, Commercial etc.

Hard to say, the Semenyo sale steered us clear maybe. I'm basing it on in part when EA suggested losses were £12-13m last year and trying to work backwards to look at how it seems minus Semenyo sale. Maybe not that tight hut still a reasonable chance we fail if no Semenyo sale. Perhaps a lot depends on how large our Covid allocated add-backs in 2021-22 were..I'm basing my approximations on the £39m, £7m per year in usual FFP and £5m, £5m and £2.5m for Covid.

The Holdings seemed to have a loss of £26m for 2021-22, but still even with that in mind it feels like thete is a deificit to be made up still.

Cardiff squad now at if not exceeding 30 if Meite joins. Wjat do you think @Davefevs Their income is at or a bit above £26m per year, they are not seemingly selling players of note- us Semenyo, Stoke yes I criticise them Bursik, Collins, Souttar and a fair few so far released this summer, Birmingham Bellingham x 2 the main one a sell on and West Brom O'Shea. Surely Cardiff are major candidates to fail given the £26m loss in 2021-22 also @Hxj . I know there has been a churn but I don't see how exactly they are set to comply. They seem less hemmed in than we did.

Elisssom had 3rd highest assists in the division, double figures in his final season despite not necessarily starting week in week out. Did he have other areas of his gsme that needed improvement of course but only Wallace and Pereira out assisted that year, in the case of Pereria in an undoubtedly stronger and more creative West Brom.

Semenyo we had an FFP issue. I strongly believe that we would have failed last season had he not been sold. Maybe by £8-9m, which is a decent sized points deduction, 5 or 6 points once we get one back for the third year of loss being lower than the prior one.

Fair. Stoke will probably offer higher wages though I expect. That said so far I'm a bit surprised, still nearly 2 months of course but they have been very cautious and quiet in the market all things considered.

It might be that we are priced out as he doesn't fit our new wage structure. I'm not that convinced that we'll get him. Knight that is- Stoke will be willing to pay the higher wage IMO. I thought McCrorie was widely reported as being £2m?

They were quite sensitive to criticism of Mel Morris and probably uncomfortable truths too. Other Derby fans have said as much on other platforms.

Me and @Hxj were banned before we could even post! However yeah I did think the poster formerly known as Unlucky Alf was relatively sensible on some points.

He came through during the Mel Morris era so I'd be surprised if it's quite so low, at their peak they had a wage bill of £46m on a £30m turnover!! ? They didn't release accounts for several years after that so it's hard to say.

Will depend on fee and wage demands. Maybe off but will he fit our wage structure, other clubs can spend quite big. Ipswich who were interested, Stoke in theory have a fair amount of headroom.

Well by the standards of their forum maybe! ? Agree with you all we wouldn't pay that. Perhaps they're stuck in the pre Covid transfer mindset but if those were his wishes then we can safely rule it out for now.