Portland Bill Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I'm surprised I do not know about this! Even a reliable source of mine does not know/or not telling me! But Im going on a whim here and would not be surprised if it is Kevin Kyle. I've just been looking at Kyle, he seems very settled at Hearts, he's been a major player in why there doing so well. Can't see it being him personally. The Scottish Prem league wasn't mentioned by hmmmm either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 if it is Keogh i will be a very happy lad, always thought he was class and has a very different, but good, style of play. Doesn't score many though but Maynard/Pitman can do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_Lemon Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I've just been looking at Kyle, he seems very settled at Hearts, he's been a major player in why there doing so well. Can't see it being him personally. The Scottish Prem league wasn't mentioned by hmmmm either? It was not your right, I love trick questions. Also watch out for Skuse tomorrow if he sticks around or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Didn't I read yesterday that you can only include a maximum of 5 loan players in your match day squad (although you can have 7 at one time)? Cardiff also have Bellamy, Olafinjana, Emmanuel-Thomas, Ramsey and Koumas. No wonder he's fed up with a lack of game time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-H Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 A player can only play for two clubs in a season. Keogh has already played for Wolves and Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Perhaps Cardiff are signing another striker and Keogh is surplus? It may turn out like a house moving chain tomorrow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted January 30, 2011 Admin Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 If your buying a player from the parent club who happens to be out on-loan doesn't that get terminated and the player becomes yours immediately? If so then it's nailed on to be Keogh. In our price range a clone for Stead and we've been linked with him before. I did read somewhere recently that Keogh wasn't happy with the amount of game time he's been getting at Cardiff during his loan spell. Looking at the rules on loans, the player would have to be recalled during the Jan transfer window, apart from that, there is no recall on a season long loan 51. STANDARD, EMERGENCY AND YOUTH LOANS 51.1 Standard Loans.Subject to the provisions of Regulation 50.3, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions: 51.1.1 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window. 51.1.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.1.1, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time.Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall. 51.1.3 A Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 on a Standard Loan during any Season.The deadline for determining a Player's age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place. 51.1.4 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Club from another Club on a Standard Loan in any Season. 51.1.5 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season. 51.2 Emergency and Youth Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 50.3, Emergency Loan and Youth Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions: 51.2.1 Emergency and Youth Loans are permitted both during the Transfer Windows and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 51.2.2, also during a Closed Period. 51.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan or Youth Loan: (a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Transfer Window; (b) in the first half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and © in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 52. 51.2.3 Only: (a) Scholars who are in the second or third (if that option is exercised) year of their Scholarship Agreement; or (b) Contract Players aged 20 or under on 1st July immediately preceding the Season in question, may be registered on a Youth Loan. 51.2.4 It shall be a condition of any Youth Loan involving a Scholar, or a Contract Player to whom Youth Rule 99 applies, that for the duration of the period of the Youth Loan the Player continues to fully comply with the programme of education in place for that Player. 51.2.5 A Player registered on a Youth Loan may, provided this is agreed between the two clubs and the Player, continue to train with and/or play for his loaning Club (or club) in any match other than matches played as part of the Premier League Competition, League Competition, League Cup, Football Association Challenge Cup or Football League Trophy (First Team Matches).Participation by the Player in First Team Matches for the loanee Club shall take precedence. 51.2.6 Any days on which the Player participates in a reserve team match and/or attends any training sessions for the loaning Club (or club)) shall still count towards the period of the Youth Loan. 51.2.7 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 51.2.9, 51.2.10 and 52, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan and Youth Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration of an Emergency Loan is 93 days.The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date.Youth Loans may not extend beyond the date of the Player's 21st birthday. 51.2.8 Emergency Loans and Youth Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the loan. 51.2.9 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days.Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. 51.2.10 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days for an Emergency Loan in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. 51.2.11 Subject to Regulation 51.2.12, where the Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan or Youth Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 51.2.7. 51.2.12 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 51.2.10). 52. EMERGENCY LOAN OF GOALKEEPERS If all the professional goalkeepers at a Club are either certified by an independent medical practitioner as being unfit to play or are suspended, a Club may register (either before or after the deadlines laid down in Regulation 51.2.2), a further goalkeeper on a short term Emergency Loan in accordance with the following provisions: 52.1 The Executive shall allow a Club to sign such a goalkeeper for a period of 7 days (notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 51.2.7), inclusive of the starting date and finishing date. 52.2 Any such short term Emergency Loan shall be subject to The League, in appropriate circumstances, having received (including by facsimile) the appropriate medical certificate(s) and the Executive having confirmed that the circumstances conform to the provisions of this Regulation. 52.3 The period of any short term Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper may be renewed for 7 days at a time but further medical certification must be provided on each occasion. 52.4 Any short term Emergency Loan in respect of the same goalkeeper may not exceed 93 days during any Season. 52.5 The provisions of Regulation 50.3.2 shall not apply to the Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper. 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petehinton Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 A player can only play for two clubs in a season. Keogh has already played for Wolves and Cardiff i thought it was two clubs in a calendar year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 A player can only play for two clubs in a season. Keogh has already played for Wolves and Cardiff didnt akinde come on for us against millwall though? so when he plays for dagenham that will mean he's played for 3 clubs wouldnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-H Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 didnt akinde come on for us against millwall though? so when he plays for dagenham that will mean he's played for 3 clubs wouldnt it? Maybe it's a calendar year as mentioned above? edit: no, the rules say season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 didnt akinde come on for us against millwall though? so when he plays for dagenham that will mean he's played for 3 clubs wouldnt it? Yes. I think it is permanent moves, not loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcherryberry Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 A player can only play for two clubs in a season. Keogh has already played for Wolves and Cardiff Maybe Hmmmm chucked that in to put us off the scent? He's already told us all enough. Kammara or Keogh i would be happy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-H Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes. I think it is permanent moves, not loans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/9369930.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 A player can only play for two clubs in a season. Keogh has already played for Wolves and Cardiff Not true,Jermaine Easter has played for 3 this season. MK Dons,Swansea and Palace, two permanent and one loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_BCFC Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Not true,Jermaine Easter has played for 3 this season. MK Dons,Swansea and Palace Thats true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zideread Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Kitson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrdc Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I love reading about people in the know and brings back some happy memories. Am stunned that this info can still get out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Also watch out for Skuse tomorrow if he sticks around or not Sounds like we may have had a sizeable offer for Skuse. Not clear from what you say whether the club have accepted it or not, or whether they have, but Skuse hasn't made his mind up. If we do sell Skuse, for say 1-1.2m,, there would be no point unless the sale was the catalyst for a couple of transfers in that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I love reading about people in the know and brings back some happy memories. Am stunned that this info can still get out.. It's interesting to ask who your source was if they no longer work/play/manage there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcliffe 78 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Pullis to Portsmouth, stewarding Ateyo stand at the time we offered him the train fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetjef Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sounds like we may have had a sizeable offer for Skuse. Not clear from what you say whether the club have accepted it or not, or whether they have, but Skuse hasn't made his mind up. If we do sell Skuse, for say 1-1.2m,, there would be no point unless the sale was the catalyst for a couple of transfers in that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Very interesting. I'd take a good bid for Skuse if it meant freeing up some funds for more important positions Elliot and Cisse can cover the ball winning midfield role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcfc24 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ahh I've worked it all out skuse to Stoke = player + cash deal = city get kitson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ahh I've worked it all out skuse to Stoke = player + cash deal = city get kitson Except Kitson plays for Portsmouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-H Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ahh I've worked it all out skuse to Stoke = player + cash deal = city get kitson How are Stoke going to persuade Portsmouth to let us have Kitson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Sounds like we may have had a sizeable offer for Skuse. Not clear from what you say whether the club have accepted it or not, or whether they have, but Skuse hasn't made his mind up. If we do sell Skuse, for say 1-1.2m,, there would be no point unless the sale was the catalyst for a couple of transfers in that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Very interesting. Much as I like Cole Skuse, talk of selling him for £1million is laughable. He isn't worth anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted January 30, 2011 Admin Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Much as I like Cole Skuse, talk of selling him for £1million is laughable. He isn't worth anything like that. Maybe he has the same agent as Cotterill....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-H Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Much as I like Cole Skuse, talk of selling him for £1million is laughable. He isn't worth anything like that. Indeed. I would ship him out the door before his feet could touch the ground for that amount or even anywhere close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayLives Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Ahh I've worked it all out skuse to Stoke = player + cash deal = city get kitson Kitson is a Portsmouth player now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderArmyy Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Krap! Oh wait thats after he signs for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I'd take a good bid for Skuse if it meant freeing up some funds for more important positions Elliot and Cisse can cover the ball winning midfield role. Imo we need 3 new players in tomorrow, and quality players at that. If the sale of Skuse were to make this possible where it wouldn't be otherwise, then so be it. If Haynes was sold because he was a player another club actually wanted, plus it freed up money/squad space to get players we need more, then the same could equally apply to Skuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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