Cardy Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I think today's developments point to one of the following being our next manager: Del McInnesSteve CotterillIan HollowayMatin O'NeillClearly someone has thrown a spanner in the work - hopefully receiving an unexpected application rather than one of the leading candidates withdrawing!
Pete1975Legend Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Dave jones got it if he wants it. Back up plans being made I reckon
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I'd take 3 out of those 4, guess which one is the negative?!
Rocky Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I think today's developments point to one of the following being our next manager: Del McInnesSteve CotterillIan HollowayMatin O'NeillClearly someone has thrown a spanner in the work - hopefully receiving an unexpected application rather than one of the leading candidates withdrawing! Why do you think that?
Andy082005 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Someone applied over the weekend, and the exact words used were "spanner in the works" and Lansdown was coming over to interview him today.
Red-Robbo Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Someone applied over the weekend, and the exact words used were "spanner in the works" and Lansdown was coming over to interview him today. Well Holloway is certainly a right spanner...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Someone applied over the weekend, and the exact words used were "spanner in the works" and Lansdown was coming over to interview him today. Martin O'neill?
Cardy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Steve Lansdown is coming over because 'the spanner' is a very expensive golden spanner who doesn't come cheap........... Exciting times around the corner!!
pride of the west Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Dave jones got it if he wants it. Back up plans being made I reckon If dave jones has got it then hed be anounced as the new boss by now. Why put back up plans in place? Its easy. You ring him up, say congrats, see you in the morning at 9. Initial interview would have discussed terms so only minor negotiations would be needed. That can be sorted in an afternoon. Todays announcement says that some applicants have come out the woodwork which the board are interested in. In no way do i believe anybody has got it in the bag at this stage. Yes jones may be their 1st choice at present but they want to interview the new applicants.
Guest ashtonphil Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Nigel Worthington??? Leaving N.Ireland and has a desire to return to club management. Just an idea.. No source merely a thought
Andy082005 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Martin O'neill? Funny you should say that....
Sticks Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Steve Lansdown is coming over because 'the spanner' is a very expensive golden spanner who doesn't come cheap........... Exciting times around the corner!! Been on those mendip mushrooms again Cardy!!!
formerly known as ivan Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I think its more of a delay tactic. Struggling to get the main target and rather than tell others they are second choice they have said there is a last minute applicant
Lordofthebling Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 If Martin O'Neill is our next manager; I will get my bum out in Burtons shop window.
Guest bcfc_Jamie Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 If Martin O'Neill is our next manager; I will get my bum out in Burtons shop window. Now now Gary. We all know you can't keep those promises anyway, if someone has thrown a 'spanner in the works' and it is O'Neil then... YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO! although I won't hold my breath.
WellRedPhil Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Is this thread a joke? Why would O'Neil come here? Why would Hollway come here? (Not to mention the fact that even our bord surely can't be stupid enough to employ that Gas c ** t and face the wrath of many fans.) Those two are never happening.
Andy082005 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Is thread a joke? Why would O'Neil come here? Why would Hollway come here? (Not to mention the fact that even our bord surely can't be stupid enough to employ that Gas c ** t and face the wrath of many fans.) Those two are never happening. ....the good thing is the longer it goes on, the less likely it is Robins....and more likely a big name, or more likely...a man in a job. I just hope it isn't Steve Cotterill. I was told they were meeting with, and met, Cotterills advisors the weekend. They liked what they heard but someone applied for the job over the weekend and Lansdown has flown over to interview him
Mrs Shortie Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 If Martin O'Neill is our next manager; I will get my bum out in Burtons shop window. I may join you if true!
Kingswood Robin Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Why would Holloway come here? He must be missing the delights of Cadbury Heath by now.
Roadrunner Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I was just going to post the same thing. The timing makes it right, could be a possable not sure? Nigel Worthington??? Leaving N.Ireland and has a desire to return to club management. Just an idea.. No source merely a thought
Cardy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 I was told they were meeting with, and met, Cotterills advisors the weekend. They liked what they heard but someone applied for the job over the weekend and Lansdown has flown over to interview him Spot on - that is what I have been told today. My understanding is if the deal comes off then our main investor will be commiting some serious funds as this manager will not be coming to mess around in the loan market.
cheese Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Steve Lansdown is coming over because 'the spanner' is a very expensive golden spanner who doesn't come cheap........... Exciting times around the corner!! You don't get a bigger clue than that - it's defo Martin O'Neill that's coming. Why? Well, Dick Spanner PI was an animated film; Dick short form for Richard Richard means Strong Leader Leader rhymes with Feeder Jon Lee is the drummer of Feeder Another jon Lee was in S Club 7 7 is the number of clubs managed by Martin O'Neill QED.
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Spot on - that is what I have been told today. My understanding is if the deal comes off then our main investor will be commiting some serious funds as this manager will not be coming to mess around in the loan market. Come on then, spill the beans...... We won't take the piss when you are wrong and if you are correct you will be lord of the forum ;-)
Pete1975Legend Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 No point speculating this job is Dave Jones I reckon they are finalizing details today and covering it with aanother interview story
slartibartfast Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I think its more of a delay tactic. Struggling to get the main target and rather than tell others they are second choice they have said there is a last minute applicant You mean.. CS is applying for .....a Judicial Revue!
Cardy Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Come on then, spill the beans...... We won't take the piss when you are wrong and if you are correct you will be lord of the forum ;-) I've given 4 names in the first post - take your pick. As things stand now one of them will get the job in my opinion. Nigel Worthington is not currently in the frame but would be worthy of adding to the list if he was interested. Forget your Dave Jones, Mark Robins, SOD, Steve McClaren and Billy Davies - if it was going to be one of those it would have happened by now.
Dastardly and Muttley Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Not necessarily, as McClaren and Davies hadn't applied, as I understood it. So, if they'd made contact over the weekend, they could be in with a shot. Maybe it's Davies, now the Forest job seems to have passed him by.
Red Robin Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Hope so Christ imagine trying to choose between Davies and jones poor sods both excellent managers.
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I've given 4 names in the first post - take your pick. As things stand now one of them will get the job in my opinion. Nigel Worthington is not currently in the frame but would be worthy of adding to the list if he was interested. Forget your Dave Jones, Mark Robins, SOD, Steve McClaren and Billy Davies - if it was going to be one of those it would have happened by now. FairPlay I hope you are correct with 3 put of 4, Cottrells inclusion worries me, that could be the spanner in the works as he's employed, can't see Oneill coming here, Hollowhead........oh please!!!! that leaves McInnes the deal would take some time to go through, hence the delay and if it's who I think it is (Coterill), slightly longer as he's employed and didn't apply before the first round of interviews (guess)......please tell me I am wrong, please.
nickolas Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 How about our main target has turned the job down so we use todays 'bullsh1t' story as our get out of jail card by havin to run back and reinterview someone we had already turned down in favour of the main target? If martin o'neill is our new manager then this world has gone stark raving mad!! I think were more likely to get johnjo oneill that martin oneill.
exAtyeoMax Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Is this thread a joke? Why would O'Neil come here? Why would Hollway come here? (Not to mention the fact that even our bord surely can't be stupid enough to employ that Gas c ** t and face the wrath of many fans.) Those two are never happening. Why wouldn't they? You saying this club is rubbish and not worth bothering with? There are lots of reasons why people choose their place of work, it doesn't always have to do with money and status.
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Why wouldn't they? You saying this club is rubbish and not worth bothering with? There are lots of reasons why people choose their place of work, it doesn't always have to do with money and status. .......but it's football, it's all about money.
Andy082005 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Spot on - that is what I have been told today. My understanding is if the deal comes off then our main investor will be commiting some serious funds as this manager will not be coming to mess around in the loan market. I personally think the Martin o Neil story is a red herring. I heard the Cotterill rumours and that came from the mouth of someone very high at the club. So did this Martin O'Neil rumour....however I just dont believe it. I really think all this talk will lead to a lot of disappointed people
cheese Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Someone applied over the weekend, and the exact words used were "spanner in the works" and Lansdown was coming over to interview him today. And the fact that SL is in Africa until Friday doesn't affect this?
Andy082005 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 And the fact that SL is in Africa until Friday doesn't affect this? Just saying what ive been told. As I said, I think the O'Neil rumour is anred herring. Someone pretty high up has acted pretty unprofessionally in my opinion by spouting off though
CodeRed Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Don't forget that Sexstone mentioned his surprise that 1 or 2 didn't apply that he thought might apply. Why even mention this at all if they were guys that were no interest to CS? There must be lots of names that didn't apply ? It sounded like he was disappointed that these 2 didn't apply. Maybe one or both have now approached us We heard rumours that Davies was discussing a return th Forest , not as unlikely as we might think as the Chairman (Doughty) he fell out with is standing down and Pleat (also one Davies disagreed with over transfers) has also left. - maybe that has now collapsed and the Forest board are looking for a fresh start - Davies now available ?? Isn't something like that more likely than the Holloway/O'Neil fantasies CR
Backpage Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 This delay all suggests we are signing a manager already employed by another club. The owner is on holiday in Africa until the end of the week. The prospective manager wants to meet and talk to the man who really runs the club before signing on the dotted line, which makes sense. Compensation to his current club also has to be agreed. Come in Mr McInnes. PS. It is sad that Keith Millen's comments on his sacking have to be dependent upon his compensation deal. He should be paid off in full for the rest of his contract and feel free to say what he likes. He is hardly the type to bad-mouth the club anyway.
marmite Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Is this thread a joke? Why would O'Neil come here? Why would Hollway come here? (Not to mention the fact that even our bord surely can't be stupid enough to employ that Gas c ** t and face the wrath of many fans.) Those two are never happening. Why indeed when there is a managerless club, with a very wealthy investor, waiting for the right moment to release funds, and a brand new stadium on the horizon, and with the biggest catchment area in the country, waiting to employ him. Oh! Hang on ...thats us.!!!
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Why indeed when there is a managerless club, with a very wealthy investor, waiting for the right moment to release funds, and a brand new stadium on the horizon, and with the biggest catchment area in the country, waiting to employ him. Oh! Hang on ...thats us.!!! A wealthy investor that won't just throw money at something endlessly for no return. How do you know he's waiting to release funds, when will this right moment be? How exactly to we have the biggest catchment area in the country?
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 This delay all suggests we are signing a manager already employed by another club. The owner is on holiday in Africa until the end of the week. The prospective manager wants to meet and talk to the man who really runs the club before signing on the dotted line, which makes sense. Compensation to his current club also has to be agreed. Come in Mr McInnes. PS. It is sad that Keith Millen's comments on his sacking have to be dependent upon his compensation deal. He should be paid off in full for the rest of his contract and feel free to say what he likes. He is hardly the type to bad-mouth the club anyway. I hope your right and we do go for Mcinnes. However I wonder if the new mystery delay is something to do with Worthington?. He has resigned but does not step down until after Northern Ireland's game in Italy tonight and that would fit in with the delay/mystery man.
Superjack Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I hope your right and we do go for Mcinnes. However I wonder if the new mystery delay is something to do with Worthington?. He has resigned but does not step down until after Northern Ireland's game in Italy tonight and that would fit in with the delay/mystery man. I'm not keen on this Worthington business... ...I did worry when the news broke on Sky.
marmite Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 A wealthy investor that won't just throw money at something endlessly for no return. How do you know he's waiting to release funds, when will this right moment be? How exactly to we have the biggest catchment area in the country? So negative. Maybe we get what we deserve with that attitude.
Kid in the Riot Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I think today's developments point to one of the following being our next manager: Del McInnesSteve CotterillIan HollowayMatin O'NeillClearly someone has thrown a spanner in the work - hopefully receiving an unexpected application rather than one of the leading candidates withdrawing! No way O'Neill is coming and if you actually believe he is then get some doh on him at 40/1. I hope it's McInnes, I don't see why we'd be interested in Cotterill.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 No way O'Neill is coming and if you actually believe he is then get some doh on him at 40/1. I hope it's McInnes, I don't see why we'd be interested in Cotterill. Nor me. With people complaining about the standard of football for some considerable time, the thought of 'Pulis lite' that Cotterill dishes up is one that...err....doesn't bare thinking about. He has got a west country accent though.
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 How was that negative? It was extremely realistic, which makes a nice change from the pie in the sky bull The problem is Matty, half of our fans think we are some kind of sleeping giant and SL has endless funds that he is happy with wasting, it beggars belief!
Andy082005 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I have a funny feeling its going to be McInnes. As I said before, the longer it goes on, the less chance I feel of it being Robins. There is no reason why, if it was Robins, he wouldnt be here now. Cotterill? possibly....but I hope not. Worthington? again....I hope not
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 So negative. Maybe we get what we deserve with that attitude. So you don't actually have an intelligent answer to any of my replies? Instead you confuse negativity with realism. As for getting what we deserve, my "attitude" has nothing to do with that, the clubs perilous situation is a combination of poor timing and judgement by the board, bad management and having a team full of wasters not fit to wear the shirt.
Kid in the Riot Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I have a funny feeling its going to be McInnes. As I said before, the longer it goes on, the less chance I feel of it being Robins. There is no reason why, if it was Robins, he wouldnt be here now. Cotterill? possibly....but I hope not. Worthington? again....I hope not But the same could be said for McInnes. We must have agreed a compensation package just to be able to talk to him. If we liked him that much, he'd be here. It must have taken someone pretty decent to apply for us to hold up the process. So we must assume that Cotterill is a genuine contender and maybe Worthington too. Like you I think the O'Neill rumour is b0ll0x. Maybe there is someone else who hasn't been mentioned at all or Billy D has finally shown an interest?
Alex#40 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I've juts had £10 on Martin O'Neil at 40-1. No insider knowledge but I do agree with what some have said that something dramatic has happened in the process and the board have changed their plans (were hoping to announce by today/tomorrow initially). I think it would take something as sensational as O'Neil applying to stop the club just going for the easy, easy option of a Robins or an O'Driscoll. Probably £10 lost but we shall see.
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I've juts had £10 on Martin O'Neil at 40-1. No insider knowledge but I do agree with what some have said that something dramatic has happened in the process and the board have changed their plans (were hoping to announce by today/tomorrow initially). I think it would take something as sensational as O'Neil applying to stop the club just going for the easy, easy option of a Robins or an O'Driscoll. Probably £10 lost but we shall see. Would dramatic include Worthington leaving his N.I post? His last game is tonight, Saturday would be too soon to take over hence Wiggles being in charge on Saturday??? I have put my money on Cotterill, I'd be gutted to win though!
Alex#40 Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Would dramatic include Worthington leaving his N.I post? His last game is tonight, Saturday would be too soon to take over hence Wiggles being in charge on Saturday??? I have put my money on Cotterill, I'd be gutted to win though! I agree Wolfy it would include a manager leaving an International job somewhat suddenly and immediately applying for our job. Only had one tenner though!
Superjack Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Would dramatic include Worthington leaving his N.I post? His last game is tonight, Saturday would be too soon to take over hence Wiggles being in charge on Saturday??? I have put my money on Cotterill, I'd be gutted to win though! Stop it with the Worthy talk, Wolfy. You are starting to worry me now.
Backpage Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 No way O'Neill is coming and if you actually believe he is then get some doh on him at 40/1. I hope it's McInnes, I don't see why we'd be interested in Cotterill. Cotterill is favourite for the Forest job apparently.
CodeRed Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I've juts had £10 on Martin O'Neil at 40-1. No insider knowledge but I do agree with what some have said that something dramatic has happened in the process and the board have changed their plans (were hoping to announce by today/tomorrow initially). I think it would take something as sensational as O'Neil applying to stop the club just going for the easy, easy option of a Robins or an O'Driscoll. Probably £10 lost but we shall see. You're spot on with this You have just lost £10 !! O'Neil ? CV includes Celtic, Villa, tipped to take over when Fergie retires. on the short list to take over Liverpool when Benitez got the job & left Villa because they couldn't match his ambition to spend and push on for a European Cup qualifying (top 4) finish so he could persue his European Cup ambition. He's stated he's ready to come back to management with a club that can share his ambitions and have the funding to compete for the European Cup. So you think that would be us then ?? Interesting. CR
havanatopia Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 You're spot on with this You have just lost £10 !! O'Neil ? CV includes Celtic, Villa, tipped to take over when Fergie retires. on the short list to take over Liverpool when Benitez got the job & left Villa because they couldn't match his ambition to spend and push on for a European Cup qualifying (top 4) finish so he could persue his European Cup ambition. He's stated he's ready to come back to management with a club that can share his ambitions and have the funding to compete for the European Cup. So you think that would be us then ?? Interesting. CR People are hanging on to O'Neill probably because Robertson put out a statement on his behalf saying he would consider a Championship club. i'd say it is pretty remote but who knows. Relative expectation levels at City would be lower than Forest so I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility because he would have time to build a forza city.
redlandrebel Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 If there was a new applicant at the weekend it still could be one of last week's favourites. Say for example McInnes had contact but waited until the weekend before declaring a formal interest in the role. SL's absence is a big factor too - it's probably put the process back by the best part of a week. Still he's entitled to his holidays. Does all seem to point however to a manager who's still working or about to leave his current role.
Guest Bernie Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 According to the Evening Post, Steve Landsdown is on Holiday in Africa and does,nt return until Friday. Even though he is no longer chairman we all know he still pulls the strings, so this may be the reason for the hold up in the the appointment of a new manager.
WellRedPhil Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 Why wouldn't they? You saying this club is rubbish and not worth bothering with? There are lots of reasons why people choose their place of work, it doesn't always have to do with money and status. So you're not aware of this Club's history then? Why would Holloway come here? He can't stand us and likewise any self-respecting City fan would be disgusted by his appoinment. Not to mention he's doing well at Blackpool on the football side of things. As for O'Neil...come on, just a tiny shred of realism would be nice occasionally.
Slave to the rhythm Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 People are hanging on to O'Neill probably because Robertson put out a statement on his behalf saying he would consider a Championship club. i'd say it is pretty remote but who knows. Relative expectation levels at City would be lower than Forest so I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility because he would have time to build a forza city. Yeah, but when they say they'd consider a Championship club, what they really mean is they'd consider Leeds, Leicester or West Ham, not Bristol City!
Belfastcityfan Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 So you're not aware of this Club's history then? Why would Holloway come here? He can't stand us and likewise any self-respecting City fan would be disgusted by his appoinment. Not to mention he's doing well at Blackpool on the football side of things. As for O'Neil...come on, just a tiny shred of realism would be nice occasionally. I wouldn't be disgusted at Hollowhead joining us, he is a dam good manager. But I doubt he would leave Blackpool. Has he said he hates us? P.S. If success followed, Im sure any self repecting city fan would soon forget the rivalery of yestayear
Slave to the rhythm Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 I wouldn't be disgusted at Hollowhead joining us, he is a dam good manager. But I doubt he would leave Blackpool. Has he said he hates us? He doesn't exactly love us. There's plenty of evidence of that down the years. Although, to be fair, I think he's mellowed a little as he's got older.
Belfastcityfan Posted October 11, 2011 Posted October 11, 2011 He doesn't exactly love us. There's plenty of evidence of that down the years. Although, to be fair, I think he's mellowed a little as he's got older. Of course, but thats good old city/rovers banter isn't, and hate is such a strong word. If he did come in, and city got promoted, I know I wouldn't bear any grudges.....
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