China Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 He's rich enough to buy his boy a club, but doesn't have the guidance/sense to fund it 'smart'. I'm beginning to wonder who was the real brains behind HL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennHumphrys1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 And Tinnions and copells and millens, grow a pair! The man knows nothing about football! And you think any of these rich owners do? Course they dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 And you think any of these rich owners do? Course they dont Perfectly true. So there's a conduit between Owner and Management - that's our f**kup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantheCityman Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Anyone heard of the financial fair play? We can't just spend money when and where we like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Anyone heard of the financial fair play? We can't just spend money when and where we like That is not entirely true, all depends if you want to take a gamble or not. With our position now, we won't be taking a gamble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennHumphrys1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Just be careful what you wish for. If Lansdown pulls out of BCFC, we really are up shit creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Just be careful what you wish for. If Lansdown pulls out of BCFC, we really are up shit creek Only if he asks for his wasted money back. He put us up shit creek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 The problem is nobody was conned. McInnes achieved at St Johnstone exactly what we all believed he'd achieved at St Johnstone. The question is why he can't recreate that here... Because the SPL is no better than League 1 or 2 standard here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Just be careful what you wish for. If Lansdown pulls out of BCFC, we really are up shit creek In many ways Steve Lansdown has already pulled out by moving to Guernsey and appointing his Son as boss here. As per a few other posters on this forum, I just get the idea that Steve Lansdown lost interest in this club when the Ashton Vale project didn't go his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennHumphrys1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Only if he asks for his wasted money back. He put us up shit creek Why did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 It does seem he didn't get his way with Ashton Vale so jogged on when the club really did/does need real leadership, not puppets. And those of us who said it was a stupid pipe dream and the football side should be looked after were slated left right and centre and told to believe etc. Yeah, well balls to that. Build it and everything will be fine bull crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Why did he? We were in minimal debt, and he put us in massive debt for 1 promotion. Not worth the outlay and debt... imo Bad decisions PTinman how many years was he paying off him. poor appointment Johnson, signed him up again on a 4 year contract, sacked him less than a year later, poor decision. Coppell, well coppell had some morals and required no pay off. SL didn't do his homework on the guy, who put us back years with poor signings. Millen not good enough 3 games beforehand, good enough 3 games latter, still paying him off? Del, well we wait and see. How much has he wasted on mediocre players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennHumphrys1 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 We were in minimal debt, and he put us in massive debt for 1 promotion. Not worth the outlay and debt... imo He can't really win tho can he. If he doesn't spend big, he gets slated. If he does, he gets slated. Who'd want to own a football club eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 He can't really win tho can he. If he doesn't spend big, he gets slated. If he does, he gets slated. Who'd want to own a football club eh Sorry, i added a bit more I think his heart is in the right place, but he just doesn't have a clue about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I blame Lee Johnson Surely the players on the pitch have to take the blame. and why del didn't go for it when we were 4-0 down I don't know maybe we are aiming to say up on goal difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiltshireRed Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'd love some people to actually be in lansdowns position with his wealth etc and see how they think they could magic out! Think a lot of posters need to realise Steve knows how business works and we really do NOT know any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'd love some people to actually be in lansdowns position with his wealth etc and see how they think they could magic out! Think a lot of posters need to realise Steve knows how business works and we really do NOT know any better Lansdown Does know how business works, just not football, or we wouldn't be nearly 40 million in debt to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Can't see what SL has done wrongh, bankrolling the club to the tune of a couple of million each year, backing managers in purchases, and setting a realistic wage cap. Hardly his fault that managers keep chucking the money away buying mediocre rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 He's rich enough to buy his boy a club, but doesn't have the guidance/sense to fund it 'smart'. I'm beginning to wonder who was the real brains behind HL I think this sums it up perfectly. We have a "boy-wonder" doing god-knows what job simply because he is the son of his father. That's a fundamentally bad business decision. I do wonder if Hargreaves thinks he could have made a really big fortune without Lansdown.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Because the SPL is no better than League 1 or 2 standard here Yeah,Wycombe beat Barcelona today, Celtic did it a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'd love some people to actually be in lansdowns position with his wealth etc and see how they think they could magic out! Think a lot of posters need to realise Steve knows how business works and we really do NOT know any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'd love some people to actually be in lansdowns position with his wealth etc and see how they think they could magic out! Think a lot of posters need to realise Steve knows how business works and we really do NOT know any better SL should invest in a decent DOF and stop making any football decisions himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Can't see what SL has done wrongh, bankrolling the club to the tune of a couple of million each year, backing managers in purchases, and setting a realistic wage cap. Hardly his fault that managers keep chucking the money away buying mediocre rubbish. Exactly, I cringe reading this thread,without SL we would probably be down with the Gas fighting to stay in the league. We wouldn't be a Championship club on our gates alone,we would not survive nowadays. People should stop for one moment and actually think how much money we have spent on players over the last 10 years, it's a massive amount. He ALWAYS backs the manager with money. Think about it,I bet there aren't many clubs in the Championship who have spent more than us this season on players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiltshireRed Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Lansdown Does know how business works, just not football, or we wouldn't be nearly 40 million in debt to him so Where is he supposed to make the money? Without getting promoted we wouldn't really earn much more. And to get promoted we'd have to spend a lot. Goes wrong. Business in a bad way. Too big a risk to be a GOOD or SENSIBLE business plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny P Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Exactly, I cringe reading this thread,without SL we would probably be down with the Gas fighting to stay in the league. We wouldn't be a Championship club on our gates alone,we would not survive nowadays. People should stop for one moment and actually think how much money we have spent on players over the last 10 years, it's a massive amount. He ALWAYS backs the manager with money. Think about it,I bet there aren't many clubs in the Championship who have spent more than us this season on players ? Get a backbone son, we have been going backwards ever since the play off final, tell me what is the point in a big money chairman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 Exactly, I cringe reading this thread,without SL we would probably be down with the Gas fighting to stay in the league. We wouldn't be a Championship club on our gates alone,we would not survive nowadays. People should stop for one moment and actually think how much money we have spent on players over the last 10 years, it's a massive amount. He ALWAYS backs the manager with money. Think about it,I bet there aren't many clubs in the Championship who have spent more than us this season on players ? He hires the managers!!! They waste his money!!! We're ******* shite!!! Who ******g fault is it then???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 He can't really win tho can he. If he doesn't spend big, he gets slated. If he does, he gets slated. Who'd want to own a football club eh It's not about spending big, it's about finding someone who understands football to run this club. He admitted himself that he'd made mistakes which I believe is partly why he decided to take a back seat , but who did he hand over to? Sexstone (sp) briefly and then the invisible man and his son. There's undoubtedly better qualified people on this forum to take this club forward and at the very least he needs someone who is capable of standing up to him and explaining why an expense is justified and what it will add to the team. Someone on another thread mentioned the amount spent on strikers which, I'd be all in favour of if we ****ing well played any. 4-0 down they're f all use to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiltshireRed Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 SL should invest in a decent DOF and stop making any football decisions himself. I agree that'd probably be a good idea but if it was me spending that money, i'd want to be in control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 He hires the managers!!! They waste his money!!! We're ******* shite!!! Who ******g fault is it then???? The problem is when an owner appoints a manager he has to back him and help him sign the players the manager wants, if SL was the sort of owner that interferes in transfers people would be saying WTF does he know. Evidence = Peterborough Darren Ferguson has to deal with not only an idiot chairman but also a **** wit called Fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betelgeuse Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 There are problems all over the place at this club but Landsdown needs to act or if he doesn't want to spend then is there any point in being involved in a football club? People may say we have to thank him for funding the club and repaying the debt but on the other hand, he is the one spending the money in the first place! He signs the players, the managers, the coaches and other staff. He does the budgets, he spends his money and as it turns out, not very wisely. The new ground obviously has hit him hard and sometimes it looks like he's losing interest with the whole thing but at this point in time, we're a championship team and if he wants to keep it that way then we need to spend some serious money in January. I just don't feel confident he will and we'll continue in this signing below average players and hoping it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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