Shaftesburyred Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Friend of mine lives in the same village as Ayling just outside Yeovil. He is one of the three "better" players who are leaving along with Webster and Stech. Apparently he has said he has three offers on the table, Ipswich, Rotherham and Bristol City. Played right back most of last season and would cost a fee because of his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Brentford want him too. No doubt he'll want to stay in the C'ship but if he's not married and can ignore the bright lights of Bristol's nightlife then he could be an option for SC, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesburyred Posted June 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Saw him a couple of times last season, was very consistent. Probably an hour away from Bristol so perhaps the location might work in our favour. Ex Arsenal so Brentford would be attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 we dont need a right back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danrozzell Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 we dont need a right back then whos cover or going to compete with maloney ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 we dont need a right back You need depth to a squad. Currently we only have one out and out right back (Maloney) and it's questionable as to whether SC even rates him. Nevertheless, if he's not fit the next in line would Osbourne who's first and foremost a centre-back. We have the same problem on the left side with Cunningham being backed up by Williams shifting over out of his strongest position. All in all we have 1 RB (Maloney), 1 LB (Cunningham) and 4 CB's (Flint, Osbourne, El-Abd, Williams). 6 senior defenders is not enough for the whole season. I believe we will sign at least one (if not 2) more defenders. The question is in which position? Do you sign a full-back to add depth there or sign another centre-half (thus releasing Osbourne and Williams to fill in as full backs when needed)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider red Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 From hearing cotterils latest interview it seems he likes a 3 - 5 -2. Osborne Williams and if we can sign nosworthy would be perfect for that. But as others have said we still need right back and left back cover, were not going to stick with the same formation all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 From hearing cotterils latest interview it seems he likes a 3 - 5 -2. Osborne Williams and if we can sign nosworthy would be perfect for that. But as others have said we still need right back and left back cover, were not going to stick with the same formation all season. If that's the way he sees us playing then a CB (like Nosworthy) is prob what he should sign to give us more depth at the heart of the defence. Either way we need to sign another defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bend it like brian Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 done deal....dnt no why they are waiting to announce it officially great signing imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I've met him a couple of times,very down to earth and a nice bloke. Seems settled in this part of the country,so could be something in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Luke Ayling. Yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfctim Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 How old is he? Is he under 24? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 How old is he? Is he under 24? Nope. 28, married, 12 kids, hates going out, like films with the missus I don't know tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'd love to see him here... would be a great asset imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Not good enough for the championship ,then ,no thank you . Obviously ;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Would be a very good signing. I'll see it to believe it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin 101 Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 probably shouldnt have said we dont need a right back but it is not a priority. Osbourne can play there in a defensive side or waggy can cover if we play 3-5-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 probably shouldnt have said we dont need a right back but it is not a priority. Osbourne can play there in a defensive side or waggy can cover if we play 3-5-2 I think a right back is a priority. 3-5-2 is not something I want to see long-term. It did ok last year at times, but I don't really like it. Moloney, for me, is not a top level League 1 full back, and it's clear SC doesn't rate him (one of the things me and SC actually agree on!!) If we want to progress this season, we need to upgrade massively at right back. Ayling would be an excellent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Saw him a couple of times last season, was very consistent. Probably an hour away from Bristol so perhaps the location might work in our favour. Ex Arsenal so Brentford would be attractive. There's a contradiction in there But yea, I'd be surprised if he signed for us - seems to be of a Championship quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 I think a right back is a priority. 3-5-2 is not something I want to see long-term. It did ok last year at times, but I don't really like it. Moloney, for me, is not a top level League 1 full back, and it's clear SC doesn't rate him (one of the things me and SC actually agree on!!) If we want to progress this season, we need to upgrade massively at right back. Ayling would be an excellent choice. Wigan were in the top flight for a decade playing mostly 3-5-2. If you have two high stamina players as wing backs and good discipline and organisation in the back three it can give you an extra man in attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spudski Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 The problem is that when JET is not on song it results in Sammy getting isolated and long ball ensues. The advantage of 3-5-2 is it allows us to play two strikers and JET. Unless JET can improve his consistency and fitness then we should play with a front three to compensate. I totally agree... I actually like the 3 5 2 we've played last season...it actually plays more like 3 1 2 2 1 1...it's quiet free flowing and like you say, doesn't lead to Sam getting isolated. 3 defenders, 1 holding player, 2 wing backs, 2 midfield, Roaming forward ( JET ) or a holding forward, and 1 striker. It's very versatile. I think this is the reason SC has come out and said he wants to sign midfielders that can score as well...as we can't rely just on Sam and Jet for goals. Definitely need two quality wing backs brought in, especially on the right as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 why do people still feel you have to play one formation? You don't and over the course of a season we will use many different formations to counter teams Hell we'll change formations during game If you stick with a rigid 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 for 46 games then you are never going to win anything long term you have to be adaptable and have to have players able to adapt, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I totally agree... I actually like the 3 5 2 we've played last season...it actually plays more like 3 1 2 2 1 1...it's quiet free flowing and like you say, doesn't lead to Sam getting isolated. 3 defenders, 1 holding player, 2 wing backs, 2 midfield, Roaming forward ( JET ) or a holding forward, and 1 striker. It's very versatile. I think this is the reason SC has come out and said he wants to sign midfielders that can score as well...as we can't rely just on Sam and Jet for goals. Definitely need two quality wing backs brought in, especially on the right as well. Another striker I'd say is top priority. Baldock is our only striker (JET is sort of a striker I suppose but more midfielder for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 why do people still feel you have to play one formation? You don't and over the course of a season we will use many different formations to counter teams Hell we'll change formations during game If you stick with a rigid 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 for 46 games then you are never going to win anything long term you have to be adaptable and have to have players able to adapt, People don't think that...that's you putting 2 and 2 together and making 5. However... Clubs set out to play to their strongest formation and tactics, depending on the strengths of the Clubs personel and how the manager wants to play...of course you adjust accordingly depending on the game...that's a given. Another striker I'd say is top priority. Baldock is our only striker (JET is sort of a striker I suppose but more midfielder for me) I agree... JET is more like a roaming playmaker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 probably shouldnt have said we dont need a right back but it is not a priority. Osbourne can play there in a defensive side or waggy can cover if we play 3-5-2 I don't want players that can play in a position, I want players who DO play there. Far too often we've seen square pegs in round holes and wondered why things don't work! Let's play right backs at right back please, not centre backs or midfielders who can "do a job" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichaelRobartes Posted June 6, 2014 Report Share Posted June 6, 2014 I don't want players that can play in a position, I want players who DO play there. Far too often we've seen square pegs in round holes and wondered why things don't work! Let's play right backs at right back please, not centre backs or midfielders who can "do a job" Absolutely spot on. Let's play players in their proper positions please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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